Re: What to do? NL100

niveaformen napisao:
Leon napisao:

ja bi folda jer u najboljem slučaju ste 50 50 ako ima overkarte+fd a nešto lošije ne virujen da bi rejza na flopu


ima notes "all in na S draw", znači da tu rejza brdo drawowa i ja bi shipo


Board: Th 5c 7c
Dead: 

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     58.138%      58.12%     00.01%             222690            54.00   { JJ }
Hand 1:     41.862%      41.85%     00.01%             160332            54.00   { TT, 77, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac6c, Ac4c, Ac3c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, JcTc, Jc9c, Tc9c, Tc8c, 98s, 9c6c, 86s, 8c4c, 83s, 75s, 6c5c, 6c4c, 98o, 86o }

E vidiš, zaboravljam da i ja to imam tongue
Čak bi proširio njegov range s obzirom na notese, pa bi stavio 7T i  55.
Nisam raisao, na kraju sam dobio, imao je Jc8c.

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Re: What to do? NL100

Value bet river?
27/24 3bet:14.3
AF:2.8
fold to steal 77%
Mene je negdje 3 puta 3betao tijekom 100 handova, jedanput sam callao i foldao flop na cbet.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BB ($146.2)
UTG ($95.5)
CO ($139.15)
BTN ($85)
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($342.85)

Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG & CO & BTN fold, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: (Pot is $6, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) bets $4.5, BB calls $4.5

Turn: (Pot is $15, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) bets $11.5, BB calls $11.5

River: (Pot is $38, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png

                                                                     
Total Pot: $38 | Rake: $38




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Re: What to do? NL100

check /call

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: What to do? NL100

mali broj ruku
19/16 AF:1.3
cbet 4 od 7
5/9 open s BTN
Bet ili CR river?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BB (RearAdmiral_) ($115.1)
UTG ($113.5)
CO ($100)
BTN ($109.15)
SB ($160.25)

Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG & CO fold, BTN raises to $3, SB folds, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $2

Flop: (Pot is $6.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $5, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $5

Turn: (Pot is $16.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN checks

River: (Pot is $16.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png

                                                                     
Total Pot: $16.5 | Rake: $16.5




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Re: What to do? NL100

ovak je  tesko rec, ak mislis da nece betat K a po AF se cini da  nece, onda  bet

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: What to do? NL100

3bet pf. !
Chekirao bi river jer je dosta profulanir drawova, tako da mozes odigrati c/call jer mislim da je bas profulao draw a bet na riveru mu je mozda jedini nacin da dobije hand!

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Re: What to do? NL100

hendrixjimmi napisao:

3bet pf. !
Chekirao bi river jer je dosta profulanir drawova, tako da mozes odigrati c/call jer mislim da je bas profulao draw a bet na riveru mu je mozda jedini nacin da dobije hand!

mislis c/r?!  --- AJ hand?

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: What to do? NL100

Ne 3betam uvjek to PF. Ovaj put nisam. Tako sam i ja razmišljao u drugome, jer je puno drawowa fulano, ali opet s druge strane to i on sa slabim K može misliti pa calla s njim dosta, ali ne beta.

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Re: What to do? NL100

puki86 napisao:
hendrixjimmi napisao:

3bet pf. !
Chekirao bi river jer je dosta profulanir drawova, tako da mozes odigrati c/call jer mislim da je bas profulao draw a bet na riveru mu je mozda jedini nacin da dobije hand!

mislis c/r?!  --- AJ hand?

da puki! krivo sam se izrazio iako ni c/C nebi bio los?!? jer kakav hand tu placa raise ?

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Re: What to do? NL100

bilo koji J, ili jaki K ako misli da  si ti fulao draw i ides c/r

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: What to do? NL100

AJs nema potrebe 3betat preflop. Osim ako igrač koji je rejzao calla puno 3betova pa 3betaš za value. Zašto dobar hand pretvoriti u blef?

@ Rear_Admiral
Ti si igrao s igračem pa bi trebalo lakše od nas procjeniti dal će betati river. Ak će betati, c/r. Ak neće, betaj ti.
Ako ćemo gledati AF, onda bi ja betao.

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Re: What to do? NL100

da, gledajući AF mislim da je ovo bet oko 2/3 pota, nema smisla nešto za induce opet zbog AF tak da ono, nadaj se nekom K ili hero callu

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Re: What to do? NL100

28/20/AF2.2
3bet 5.8
3handed
cbet 53%

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

BB ($54.17)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($102.07)
SB ($50.84)

Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $1.5, SB raises to $6, BB folds, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $4.5

Flop: (Pot is $12.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png
SB bets $7, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $7

Turn: (Pot is $26.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png
SB bets $14, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $14

River: (Pot is $54.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png
SB bets $23.84 (All-In)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $78.34 | Rake: $78.34




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Re: What to do? NL100

a da je malo veci taj af. ja bi callo!
Jedino je cudno sto mu najjgora moguca scary karta nije zaustavila akciju da shipa river!
jer ako je doso i fd i sd a on zashipa i 3rd barell... neznam mislim da tako ence odigrati KK-!
Mislim da bih ja ipak call!

Zadnji popravljao hendrixjimmi (30-12-2010 00:24:57)

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Re: What to do? NL100

hendrixjimmi napisao:

Jedino je cudno sto mu najjgora moguca scary karta nije zaustavila akciju da shipa river!

Ak blefira tu kara mu je bogovska karta, a ak ne blefira onda smo mi u kari.

hendrixjimmi napisao:

neznam mislim da tako ence odigrati KK-!

A kak će odigrat?

Inače, ovo jako ovisi o dinamici za stolom koju samo ti znaš, kolko si otvaro UTG/BTN? jel taj 3bet izmjeren samo 3handed?
Bez nekog boljeg reada ovo je za mene fold na kraju krajeva.

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Re: What to do? NL100

mislim da ovo stvarno ovisi o dinamici i na kraju krajeva kak se ti i villian dozivljavate, al nema puno regova koji ce shipat 3. bar na nl50 iako se board otvorio savrseno

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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Re: What to do? NL100

Nema tu šta, ako blefira 25% puta i više, callaj.

Pa ti procijeni.  big_smile

Da je dobar igrač, ja bi callao, ovako neam pojma kakav je.

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Re: What to do? NL100

tek je postalo 3 handed pred ruku, dvije.
Ja sam standard, 63% fold to 3bet, 15% 4bet. 44% fold to cbet. 24/19

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Re: What to do? NL100

hendrixjimmi napisao:

neznam mislim da tako ence odigrati KK-!

A kak će odigrat?


erm???
KK (minus) mislim da nece tako odigrati 99,TT,JJ,QQ

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Re: What to do? NL100

30/22 fold to cbet 2/8, AF 0.8
jedan 4bet s AK, 3 folda i sada prvi call.
3betao sam ga 2 ili 3 puta za stolom kroz 150handova. river? Ako beta šta napraviti? Betati koliko?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

CO ($70.68)
BTN ($24.37)
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($99.33)
BB ($25.77)
UTG ($50.84)

Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG folds, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $6, BB folds, CO calls $4

Flop: (Pot is $12.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) bets $6.25, CO calls $6.25

Turn: (Pot is $25, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) bets $12.5, CO calls $12.5

River: (Pot is $50, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png

                                                                     
Total Pot: $50 | Rake: $50




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Re: What to do? NL100

19/16 3bet 3.2
AF 18 (WTSD 13% treba uzeti u obzir)
What to do?
da li bi protiv 22/19 AF 3, 3bet 6% foldali flop, turn?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

BB ($58.04)
UTG ($52)
CO ($32.35)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($47.75)
SB ($51.35)

Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG folds, CO calls $0.5, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $2.5, SB calls $2.25, BB & CO fold

Flop: (Pot is $6, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png
SB checks, BTN (RearAdmiral_) bets $4.5, SB raises to $11, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $6.5

Turn: (Pot is $28, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png
SB bets $15

River: (Pot is $43, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $43 | Rake: $43

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Re: What to do? NL100

1. veci bet na flopu, ja bih valuebetao i river jer mislim da ima TT- ! i da ce platiti neki value bet!
2.fold

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Re: What to do? NL100

1. check turn i ako ne beta river ja bi tek onda betao za value s nekih 15-ak $ - ako on beta onda bi samo flato na riveru
2. na "mojim" cash limitima ovakav raise na flopu obično je A pa bi već tada bacio... as played mislim da je miran fold na turnu...

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Re: What to do? NL100

1. Call river neki manji bet, mislim da ak beta vise od pola pota ili puni pot koliko mu je ostalo, rijetko to radi s losijom rukom ili kao bluff..
2. Fold turn, ni fold na flopu mislim da nije los, ispratio bih ga skroz do kraja eventualno da imam read na njemu da je sposoban ovako odigrat FD, jer ovakav jadan rejz na flopu i pola pota bet na turnu vuku lagano u tom smjeru,al samo uz note..

Zadnji popravljao Dr.Greenthumb (30-12-2010 04:52:03)

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Re: What to do? NL100

ako sa JJ mislis da ceka boju i da ce platiti na flopu AI onda shipaj, ako mislis da ima A onda fold, ako mislis da ce te gruvati na turnu, riveru onda fold...Zasto callas flop?

fish call...
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