'I'm Gonna Crush The Rush' by haZ (Strana 2 od 3)

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 562529
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CO: $10.20
Hero (BTN): $28.41
SB: $15.80
BB: $4.45
UTG: $3.08
MP: $6.39

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 3 3
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.50) J Q 3 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4

Turn: ($14.50) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $8.60 all in, Hero calls $8.60

River: ($31.70) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $31.70
Hero shows 3 3 (a full house, Threes full of Queens)
SB shows Q K (three of a kind, Queens)
Hero wins $29.70
(Rake: $2.00)

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BTN: $21.74
SB: $10.85
Hero (BB): $16.62
UTG: $10.00
MP: $7.42
CO: $8.34

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.65

Flop: ($4.40) 9 A 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.60, BTN calls $3.60

Turn: ($11.60) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $11.60, Hero calls $11.02 all in

River: ($33.64) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $33.64
BTN shows 4 A (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows A K (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $31.64
(Rake: $2.00)

Sto mislite o check/raiseu na turnu ovdje? Znam da sam ahead i zelim inducirati blef, ali njegov play nikako ne mogu shvatiti. Hvala jos jednom Rush ribice. 

Zadnji popravljao haZ (01-03-2010 11:39:29)

Never go broke in limped pot. 

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 563529
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UTG: $2.90
MP: $25.25
CO: $10.20
BTN: $2.16
SB: $10.15
Hero (BB): $15.59

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A 8
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.30) 5 T 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, SB folds

Turn: ($0.70) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50

River: ($1.70) K (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, MP raises to $3.30, Hero raises to $14.79 all in, MP calls $11.49

Final Pot: $31.28
MP mucks Q J
Hero shows A 8 (a flush, Ace high)
Hero wins $29.28
(Rake: $2.00)

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 574884
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BB: $33.51
UTG: $13.99
MP: $10.44
CO: $19.91
BTN: $15.44
Hero (SB): $13.25

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with T T
UTG raises to $0.35, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.15) 8 K T (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.71, Hero raises to $2.10, UTG calls $2.10, CO calls $1.39

Turn: ($7.45) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $5.30, UTG calls $5.30, CO raises to $17.46 all in, Hero calls $5.50 all in, UTG calls $6.24 all in

River: ($41.33) 4 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $41.33
UTG shows K K
CO shows 7 9
Hero shows T T
CO wins $1.48
CO wins $37.85
(Rake: $2.00)

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Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 574886
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Hero (UTG): $14.46
MP: $16.38
CO: $10.00
BTN: $12.03
SB: $10.93
BB: $11.25

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.40, 3 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) 3 J 4 (3 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, MP folds, BB calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.65) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.20, BB calls $2.20

River: ($8.05) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.40, BB raises to $7.45 all in, Hero calls $2.05

Final Pot: $22.95
Hero mucks K K
BB shows J 7 (a flush, Ace high)
BB wins $21.42
(Rake: $1.53)

Tako da ti protivnik flopne full.

Cini se da je Rush na kraju crushao mene. Ne mogu vise, bankroll mi je pao sa 500$ na 230$, runnam dobrih 150$ ispod EV-a. Uz sve to sam poceo igrat ko qrac, nemam vise pojma sto radim. Niti igram TAG, niti LAG, osjecam se ko zadnja ribetina. Volim poker, ali mislim da je to bilo to od mene. Odigrao sam preko 50k handova i u dobrom sam minusu pa mislim da je vrijeme da odustanemi prihvatim se motike. 

Eh, kad bih barem mogao zaspat ovako tiltan.

Tako je meni neki dan išlo. Nisam hand mogao dobit na rushu. Iste takve situacije. Izgubio 150$ u 2k handova. I uspio u tih 2k handova 4 puta izgubit od pokera...

Rounder1984, bacam QQ u ovakvim situacijama, ali sam vec steamao tada. Iako sam primjetio na NL10, ako im je 4bet allin, a ne raise do npr. 40bb, skoro uvijek su slabiji od QQ. Drama se i danas nastavlja, uspio sam rakeback od 50$ izgubiti u rekordnom roku. Nisam pogodio nijedan jedini flop, 90% pocket parova mi je do showdowna izgubilo value jer su na boardu dva jaca para (nisam krivo odigrao nego debili na ovim limitima jednostavno ne foldaju, floataju do rivera i skoro uvijek pogode). Nemam obicaj kukati po forumu o bad beatovima, ali ovo je postalo bezobrazno, ubili su mi volju za pokerom. 

Let's Go To Value Town

Smanjio sam broj stolova sa 4 na 2, igranje na 4 je bilo kao igranje na auto-pilotu. Instalirao sam i najnoviji PT3 sa Rush HUD-om, na nekim villainima imam i po nekoliko stotina ruka. Poceo sam primjenjivati koncept Hasenbratena sa PokerStrategy-a koji predlaze 2xBB raise sa BU, odnosno 3xBB raise s CO-a, dok s ostalih pozicija raiseam standardnih 4xBB. Vecina se villaina na Rushu ne obazire na bet sizing i u vecini slucajeva foldaju iz SB-a i BB-a. Ako i callaju, 1/2 pot size continuation bet skoro uvijek nosi pot. Ljudi ce puno prije odustati od malog pota i uglavnom nece floatati ako ne pogode flop. Ukoliko smo beatani na flopu mozemo lako foldati znajuci da smo ulozili tek 4 BB-a, a mozemo i efektivno odigrati pot control ukoliko imamo showdown value. Dugorocno mislim da je ovo profitabilno jer igrace na NL10 jednostavno boli ona stvar, nikada to nece primjetiti niti ce se adjustati tome. Jos jedna stvar koja mi se svidja kod ovog koncepta jest sto ovim raiseovima dodatno zbunjujemo villaine (pogotovo regove) i ponekad namjerno induciramo 3-bet aggro villaina samo kako bi foldali na 4-bet. Poceo sam cesce i detaljnije pisati notese, sto uz statse sa dobrim hand sampleom znaci ogromnu prednost nad prosjecnim micro-stakes Rush igracem.

U dva dana sam +10BI i cini se da ce sve krenuti na bolje. Osjecam da dosta bolje igram, razmisljam o svakom potezu i uvijek znam zasto sam odabrao bas taj line, sto nikako nisam mogao igrajuci 4 stola. Variance je na mojoj strani, nema tilta i osjecam se spreman za CRUSH THE RUSH.

Za kraj, bi li isto odigrali ovaj hand? Villain je 34/12 @ 42 hands.

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Hero (SB): $13.37
BB: $4.00
UTG: $13.77
MP: $12.01
CO: $8.30
BTN: $13.89

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 3 3
2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) 3 8 A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.90) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, CO raises to $1.30, Hero raises to $3.95, CO raises to $7.90 all in, Hero calls $3.95

River: ($16.70) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Zadnji popravljao haZ (16-03-2010 02:53:33)

40/20 @ 10 hands

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 593054
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BB: $9.35
UTG: $10.00
MP: $3.57
Hero (CO): $11.75
BTN: $13.79
SB: $12.76

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) J 3 8 (2 players)
SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.65, SB raises to $2.85, Hero ???

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Fold. Češče ćeš biti beatan u ovoj situaciji nego dobar.

Iako ovo nema prevelikog utjecaja, minbet od ribe i onda rerejz bi trebao biti monster, jer on misli da te je s tim minbetom naveo da rejzaš.

Fakat. Mjenjam mišljenje. Shove.