Tema: Top set protiv made handa

Kako odigrati top set ako je već na flopu moguć flush ili straight?

Jesam li trebao bet/call flop? Ili možda check/call?

Ne znam više šta da radim u ovakvim situacijama... ako gurnem na flopu i opponent ima gotov hand imam 33-35% da dobijem. Ako samo callam njegove betove izgubit ću manje, ali ću i manje dobit ako otvorim full house na turnu ili riveru.

I koliko sve to ovisi o protivnicima?

Evo dva handa za primjer - u prvom je protivnik regular 32/18 dosta oprezan postflop, a u drugom 58/31 aggro lik jako agresivan postflop

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PokerStars, Pot-Limit Omaha Hi Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

BB ($5.2)
UTG ($7.83)
MP ($5.17)
CO ($20.41)
BTN ($6.05)
SB (Svizac28) ($5)

Dealt to SB (Svizac28)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB (Svizac28) calls $0.13, BB & MP fold

Flop: (Pot is $0.4, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png
SB (Svizac28) bets $0.38, BTN raises to $1.2, SB (Svizac28) raises to $3.98, BTN raises to $5.9 (All-In), SB (Svizac28) calls $0.87 (All-In),

Turn: (Pot is $10.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

River: (Pot is $10.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png

Showdown:
BTN shows
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(Flush, Ace high)

SB (Svizac28) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png
(Three of a Kind, Aces)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $10.1 | Rake: $0.5

Winners:
BTN wins $9.6

Just admitting you are a fish is a big step forward!
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Re: Top set protiv made handa

evo i drugog

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PokerStars, Pot-Limit Omaha Hi Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

CO ($14.52)
BTN ($7.75)
SB ($7.19)
BB ($23.83)
UTG (Svizac28) ($5)

Dealt to UTG (Svizac28)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG (Svizac28) raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $0.5, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png
SB checks, UTG (Svizac28) bets $0.45, BTN raises to $1.5, SB folds, UTG (Svizac28) raises to $4.65, BTN raises to $7.6 (All-In), UTG (Svizac28) calls $0.2 (All-In),

Turn: (Pot is $10.2, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

River: (Pot is $10.2, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png

Showdown:
BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png
(Straight, Ten high)

UTG (Svizac28) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png
(Three of a Kind, Nines)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $10.2 | Rake: $0.5

Winners:
BTN wins $9.7

Just admitting you are a fish is a big step forward!
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Re: Top set protiv made handa

Zasto si u prvom handu samo callao preflop s takvim monsterom?

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Re: Top set protiv made handa

ne igran bas omahu al ja bi se zgura s tim pf ako je moguce

"Dikod uđe, dikod ne uđe" - Mate Baturina
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Re: Top set protiv made handa

u prvom hendu ti je velika greška kaj nisi reraise preflop, moraš reraise i bez obzira na flop s bojom moraš ici all in
a drugi hand puno je skala mogučih i pošto su dvojica veće su šanse da ju netko ima ali ipak moraš betat, sad dal ici na njegov raise all in ili callat neznam,svaki put se drugacije odlucim u toj situaciji

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Re: Top set protiv made handa

rounder1984 napisao:

Zasto si u prvom handu samo callao preflop s takvim monsterom?

a mislio sam se da li da 3betam i onda ipak odlučio da ne jer sam bio OOP

Just admitting you are a fish is a big step forward!
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Re: Top set protiv made handa

Svizac napisao:
rounder1984 napisao:

Zasto si u prvom handu samo callao preflop s takvim monsterom?

a mislio sam se da li da 3betam i onda ipak odlučio da ne jer sam bio OOP


A koji jaci hand od tvog moze protivnik imati, da ti je bitno jesi li OOP? cool

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Re: Top set protiv made handa

JJ99 single suite mi bas i nije neki monster?

edit: glup, mislio sam....a znas vec...nisam ni vidio prvu ruku...lol

Zadnji popravljao WTF (24-06-2010 14:03:09)

fish call...
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