Tema: Da li je trebalo da foldam?

PokerStars Game #52906810596: Tournament #332921473, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/11/18 22:47:10 CET [2010/11/18 16:47:10 ET]
Table '332921473 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: todamach (1640 in chips)
Seat 3: sbrown888 (1605 in chips)
Seat 4: ElMarvinio (3890 in chips)
Seat 5: Inhumain87 (1965 in chips)
Seat 8: MiloshB (4400 in chips)
MiloshB: posts small blind 100
todamach: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MiloshB [As Kh]
sbrown888: calls 200
ElMarvinio: raises 600 to 800
Inhumain87: folds
MiloshB: calls 700
todamach: folds
sbrown888: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jh 2c]
MiloshB: checks
ElMarvinio: bets 3090 and is all-in
MiloshB: calls 3090
*** TURN *** [Kd Jh 2c] [7c]
MiloshB said, "nh"
*** RIVER *** [Kd Jh 2c 7c] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MiloshB: shows [As Kh] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
ElMarvinio: shows [Kc Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
ElMarvinio collected 8180 from pot

zamolio bi da mi pogledate ovu ruku. U preflopu protivnik je betao ja sam sa AK kolao. Na flopu je najveća karta bio kralj. Villian je onda išao na all-in. Da li je tu trebalo da foldujem? Mislio sam da ima u najboljem slučaju JJ i da hoće da me otera...ispostavilo se da ima KK. Da li biste ga vi pratili?

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Re: Da li je trebalo da foldam?

ako nemaš neki sick read i kad već nisi reraiseo preflop (što bi puno ljudi napravilo posebice ako je igrač loose) naravno da si dobro odigrao. Ne znam čemu uopće to pitanje smile

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Ozbiljan si? smile Pa pitam zato što nisam preterano iskusan igrač pa otkud znam, možda je trebalo da foldam kad sam video da je išao na all-in...

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Sa ovolikom količinom čipova nemam taj običaj, a i ne vidim svrhu kad bi me pratio sa KK sigurno...osim ako ono što si napisao nije bila šala. cool

Zadnji popravljao Truman (19-11-2010 00:30:35)

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Majko Božja bistrička hvala ti za ovaj thread.

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moze se scallat prflop (adv play), al posto ima puno retardusa na dolar turniru nebi bilo lose ni prflop obaviti posao jer ima svega u rangeu prosjecnog villiana... no od ovog flopa nemozes pobjeci... dakle cooler...

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Re: Da li je trebalo da foldam?

evo ga moj stalni obožavalac...( mislim na ovog I.Č. ).

Ok, znači ove stvari se jednostavno dešavaju i najboljima. big_smile

Zadnji popravljao Truman (19-11-2010 00:50:24)

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da događaju se i najboljima
samo je činjenica da si odigrao 10 sit n go turnira sa prosjecnim buyinom od 2$ i da si svjetlosnim godinama udaljen od najboljih
ali da
događa se i najboljima

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Re: Da li je trebalo da foldam?

au, ti si baš bukvalista.

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On je dežurni "interpretiraj šale doslovno" i "grammar nazi" na forumu.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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nije trebalo da foldas!
Trebalo je da 3betas pf pa bi bio ispravan play!
na flopu nemos foldat ni da te mama zamoli¨!

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Zamolicu vas da pogledate ovu ruku, da li je trebalo da odustati i kad. Villian me je dobio sa rukom 54.

PokerStars Game #53160599164: Tournament #334576490, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/11/23 21:02:06 CET [2010/11/23 15:02:06 ET]
Table '334576490 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: bohemia.king (3560 in chips)
Seat 3: NoleDjoko1 (1705 in chips)
Seat 4: yvie70 (2860 in chips)
Seat 8: Cubitoils (1780 in chips)
Seat 9: MiloshB (3595 in chips)
MiloshB: posts small blind 50
bohemia.king: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MiloshB [Ac Qd]
NoleDjoko1: folds
yvie70: folds
Cubitoils: folds
MiloshB: raises 200 to 300
bohemia.king: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [5d Qc 4c]
MiloshB: bets 200
bohemia.king: raises 400 to 600
MiloshB: calls 400
*** TURN *** [5d Qc 4c] [9d]
MiloshB: checks
bohemia.king: bets 900
MiloshB: calls 900
*** RIVER *** [5d Qc 4c 9d] [6s]
MiloshB: checks
bohemia.king: bets 1760 and is all-in
MiloshB: calls 1760
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bohemia.king: shows [5h 4d] (two pair, Fives and Fours)
MiloshB: shows [Ac Qd] (a pair of Queens)
bohemia.king collected 7120 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7120 | Rake 0
Board [5d Qc 4c 9d 6s]
Seat 1: bohemia.king (big blind) showed [5h 4d] and won (7120) with two pair, Fives and Fours
Seat 3: NoleDjoko1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: yvie70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Cubitoils (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MiloshB (small blind) showed [Ac Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens

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nikad, ali s obzirom na buy in, na 1.2$ se to ne folda. On tu može imati bilo koji Q.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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onda nema "ali"  smile

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kak mozete  citat ovo,mene  zabole  oci
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bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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sad cu da probam sa konverterom...

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Poker Stars $1.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 5 players - View hand 1040800
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: t3560         35.60 BBs
UTG: t1705         17.05 BBs
CO: t2860         28.60 BBs
BTN: t1780         17.80 BBs
Hero (SB): t3595         35.95 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is SB with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to t300, BB calls t200

Flop: (t600) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t200, BB raises to t600, Hero calls t400

Turn: (t1800) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t900, Hero calls t900

River: (t3600) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t1760 all in, Hero calls t1760

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Re: Da li je trebalo da foldam?

Ja bi veći bet na flopu (bar 400) i shove na njegov reraise. Znam da se moraju i stackovi uzeti u obzir, no dok sam igrao 1,2 $ SNG nagledao sam se ljudi koji ovdje ovako igraju ne samo sa setom, dvoparom, top parom ili FD već i sa smješnim glupostima poput srednjeg para pa čak i nekom random peticom ili četvorkom wink

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poradi malo na bet sizingu i mislim da nebi trebalo bit problema.
nisam igro te od $1 ali mislim da ih se moze/treba beatat zavezanih ociju

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imaš HandHistoryConverter na forumu. kad uređuješ post, ispod toga stavi kvačicu na "Koristi HandHistoryConverter" i dole kopiraš HH...i dobiješ ovakav HH

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t50
Big Blind: t100

BB (t3560)
UTG (t1705)
CO (t2860)
BTN (t1780)
SB (MiloshB) (t3595)

SB (MiloshB) has M value 23.97

Dealt to SB (MiloshB)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t150)

UTG & CO & BTN fold, SB (MiloshB) raises to t300, BB calls t200

Flop: (Pot is t600, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png
SB (MiloshB) bets t200, BB raises to t600, SB (MiloshB) calls t400

Turn: (Pot is t1800, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png
SB (MiloshB) checks, BB bets t900, SB (MiloshB) calls t900

River: (Pot is t3600, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png
SB (MiloshB) checks, BB bets t1760 (All-In), SB (MiloshB) calls t1760

Showdown:
BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png
(Two Pair, Fives and Fours)

SB (MiloshB) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png
(One Pair, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t7120

Winners:
BB wins t7120

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veci bet na flopu , ja bih recimo 450! Iako bi svejedno izgubio hand!

Zadnji popravljao hendrixjimmi (24-11-2010 14:25:50)

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Na micro limitima TPKT su nutsi, veci bet na flopu i shove na njegov raise.

But they were suited...
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