Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Ja ovo callam.

Mada ovisi o pojedincu, regovi vole flatat IP sa suited broadwayima, SC, s1g, Axs i sl. + naravno mali PP.

Rejzing range na flopu mu je skroz nagnut na semiblef i blef, jedino legitimno što može reprezentat je 22 i 44, rijetko overpar obv.
Turn možda vidi kao dobra karta za barelat, ko zna... Plus što bi nekad mozda ck behind s fullom
A na riveru shove izgleda ko overbet ali je u biti potsize otprilike i ja bi naso opravdanje za call.

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

nije  overbet  zato kaj meni ostane  pot  size , uglavnom foldo sam pa  me  zanimalo sto vi mislite

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Hm, to možda i mijenja situaciju...
Ima dosta veliku razliku izmedju PFR-a i VPIP-a što vjerovatno znači da u poziciji voli callati s drawing handovima.

Setovi su samo 22 i 44, a FD-ovima ima puno. Ak te stavio na overpar (a vjerojatno je) ovdje može biti dosta siguran da će te baciti s njega. Jer se spario TP i došla backdorka (iako on tu nikad nema tu backdorku).

Mjenjam svoju odluku u call.

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Hvala

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Vrlo vjerojatno bi identično odigrao FD, dobivaju nas dva handa (rijetko ima jači T) a ima puno kombinacija bustanih drawova i njemu ne ostaje ništa drugo negoli shove na riveru ako je bustao draw, teško da če checkback sa Ahigh. Ja bi call.

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

mislite  da  netko ko ima  AF 2 ovak igra  FD IP..  ja  mislim da bi me  samo callao

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Nema veze što ima AF 2. Vjerojatno samo ne thin valuebeta dovoljno i ne blefa u drugim situacijama.

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Pusti brojku.
Ak vec imas takav sample da možeš AF smatrat reprezentativan, rađe pogledaj njegve HHs, kak igra kad flata na BTN vs reg, na kakvim teksturama rejza, s cim cekira i ide na showdown...

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Da , nisam skuzio ni ja koliki ti je stack  lol  Da onda zaista  nemres foldat ako jos moras samo 10 platit  smile

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

nije  10 neg  18 smile

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Koje sam ja tele, jbt vise necu komentirat nista   lol  lol  lol . Trebo si reisat  tongue

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

ukupno  : -2BI
VPP:   2100
18k handova, 20 $ od stellar rewrdsa
zadnji sesion me  uzasno raspizdio, bio sam u +2,5 BI i odem sitout kad dode BB i close table, kak sam igro na  14 stolova dok se  to zatvorilo ja sam uspio spusit  4BI faking  nevjerojatno
i zadnji hand  sam ostao u soku villan   igra  15/ 10 na  130 handova i kaj mi pokaze  jos  nemrem vjerovat

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

CO (puki986) ($29.47)
BTN ($32.11)
SB ($25)
BB ($15)
UTG ($25.25)
MP ($24.65)

Dealt to CO (puki986)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG raises to $0.75, MP folds, CO (puki986) calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $2.6, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png
UTG bets $1.85, CO (puki986) calls $1.85, BTN folds

Turn: (Pot is $6.3, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png
UTG bets $3, CO (puki986) calls $3

River: (Pot is $12.3, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png
UTG bets $8.77, CO (puki986) raises to $23.7, UTG calls $10.88 (All-In)

Showdown:
CO (puki986) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png
(Three of a Kind, Threes)

UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png
(Straight, Seven high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $55.65 | Rake: $2

Winners:
CO (puki986) wins $4.05
UTG wins $49.6




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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

ukupno: +2BI
VPP-a: 2550
30$ od stellar rewrdsa, 24k handova
fish igra 34/14, AF1,7
jel bi zgurali turn,callao sam jer sumnjam da ce me  ista  losije  callat i onda se moram da nadat da ce  me  posrat river..

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

CO ($25)
BTN ($33.28)
SB ($15.31)
BB ($26.95)
UTG ($27.64)
MP (puki986) ($61.01)

Dealt to MP (puki986)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG folds, MP (puki986) raises to $0.75, CO & BTN fold, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.5

Flop: (Pot is $2.25, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
SB checks, BB checks, MP (puki986) bets $1.5, SB folds, BB calls $1.5

Turn: (Pot is $5.25, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png
BB checks, MP (puki986) bets $2.8, BB raises to $6.5, MP (puki986) calls $3.7

River: (Pot is $18.25, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png
BB bets $9.75, MP (puki986) calls $9.75

                                                                     
Total Pot: $37.75 | Rake: $1.84



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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Dobro si odigrao, s obzirom da je fish, call river.

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sto je  najbolje  na  flopu, cini mi se da cak mozda  bolje billo da sam recnuo do 8?
kaj god  da  napravim izgleda mi kao da  on nemre nastavit  bez A9,K9 ili fulla ,sasvim je  jasno da nemrem callat  sa FD i on to zna  jer cesto igramo zajedno ,tak da  mi je  na  turnu bilo jasno da ima  44..

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

SB (puki986) ($36.35)
BB ($25.35)
UTG ($25)
MP ($27.97)
CO ($29.99)
BTN ($42.26)

Dealt to SB (puki986)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO folds, BTN calls $0.75, SB (puki986) calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $3.25, 4 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
SB (puki986) checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1.25, BTN raises to $3, SB (puki986) calls $3, UTG & MP fold

Turn: (Pot is $10.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png
SB (puki986) checks, BTN bets $5.25, SB (puki986) raises to $13.75, BTN calls $8.5

River: (Pot is $38, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png
SB (puki986) bets $18.85 (All-In), BTN calls $18.85

Showdown:
SB (puki986) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png
(Four of a Kind, Nines)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png
(Full House, Fours over Nines)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $75.7 | Rake: $2

Winners:
SB (puki986) wins $73.7

Zadnji popravljao puki86 (20-01-2011 11:35:59)

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

puki86 napisao:

kaj god  da  napravim izgleda mi kao da  on nemre nastavit  bez A9,K9

Ovo je jako dobar zaključak  big_smile

Po meni si ok odigrao jer če BTN vjerojatno nastaviti svoju agresiju pa češ imati prilike ugurati $ u pot.

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Si svjestan da ne može imati A9 i K9  neutral 
tongue

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

ma  naravno da  nemre  ,samo gledam kak on razmislja ,
sad  kad  citam recenicu ponovno stvarno glupo zvuci al znate  kaj sam mislio , mora stvarno bit  monster  da  bi nastavio

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Ne moze imat K9, A9 obv. Dao si mu priliku na turnu da ti folda flush i random pitaj boga što, sa 44 će se zastackat ionako. Ja bi check call turn/check shove river. Cold call na flopu izgleda uber strong ali nema veze, nemamo nekog izbora. 44 bi bio 3bet na flopu.

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

jel ovo call river,ja tu izgledam ko da imam A high u najboljem slucaju i on mora pokusat  ovo uzet
reg ,solidan igrac

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

SB (puki986) ($25.96)
BB ($12)
UTG ($24.65)
BTN ($26.35)

Dealt to SB (puki986)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG raises to $0.75, BTN folds, SB (puki986) raises to $2.4, BB folds, UTG calls $1.65

Flop: (Pot is $5.05, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png
SB (puki986) bets $3, UTG calls $3

Turn: (Pot is $11.05, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png
SB (puki986) checks, UTG checks

River: (Pot is $11.05, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
SB (puki986) checks, UTG bets $7, SB (puki986) calls $7

                                                                     
Total Pot: $25.05 | Rake: $1



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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

Da nema ništa valjda bi betao turn.

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salemetal napisao:

Da nema ništa valjda bi betao turn.

+1
i check behindo bi taj hand s čim je callo flop ako ima showdown vrijedost - osim ako se nije improvao a očito jest

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

kiklop napisao:
salemetal napisao:

Da nema ništa valjda bi betao turn.

+1
i check behindo bi taj hand s čim je callo flop ako ima showdown vrijedost - osim ako se nije improvao a očito jest

Zasto bi c behindo river? Recimo da ima AT-JT s betom na turnu ne dobiva bas previse jer ce jaaako rjetko bit callan.. I zato cekira turn behind, a na riveru trazi value jer je obv da ima najbolji hand...

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pa to ja i govorim
malo sam igrao dok sam pisao pa mi se nije dalo objašnjavat. to sam i ja mislio tilt..znači ovdje će većinu handova koje je callo na flopu kao neki pocketi manji check-behindat na riveru. handove AT,JT će sigurno thin valuebetat na riveru jer je obv tu dobar, a osim toga valuebetat će nešto što mu je improvalo hand na riveru također

@puki
mislim da s callom tu nisi puno puta dobar ali ovaj je interesantan spot za tvoj check/shove river, doduše neznam na nl25, ali dobar reg tu folda sve osim obv nutsa

Zadnji popravljao kiklop (20-01-2011 19:16:27)

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Re: idem i ja po supernovu

ovo gore  Q9- imao je  nuts
ukupno:3050 VPPa
+2BI 40$ od stellar  rewardsa
evo i grafa , ovo kaj sam isarao to je  broj stolova koje  igram kad  se  gleda  graf,neznam jel se  tak slucajno poklopi ili kaj,al uglavnom kad  krenem 18+ rastave me ..
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btw. igram ja  s  nekkim likom i lik je  SNE  i ja  si brijem frajer  je dobar  sigurno i ubijam ga  doslovce svi blefovi mi prolaze, kad  sam dobar  calla  me  itd itd  i odem poslje  na  PTR pogledat.. bomba  je  lik
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i jos  nes  me  zanima , jedan lik s kojim sam isto danas,  igrao je  u pokerstarsovom teamu,ja  sam mislio da  lik snima  video il tak nes,al sam skuzio da  lik stvarno igra  te  limite i nije  mi jasno kako je  dospio u pokerstarsov team i koji su kriteriji za  uc
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Zadnji popravljao puki86 (21-01-2011 00:56:04)

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