Tema: NL50: range za vbet/c/fold vs nitty likova

Villan je 17/10 i 3% 3bet, izgleda straightforward i nitty. Sample je manji od 100 pa nisam siguran. Nikakav history.

Ajmo uzet u obzir da imam JJ+ ili set ovdje. Turn size dobar? Koji bi mi line na riveru trebao bit sa kojim kartama?
Za pretpostavit je da je villianov range na riveru ovdje najčešće overparovi, slowplayani setovi i ponekad 8x (ili ne? smile)

36$ ostalo iza

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

CO ($50)
BTN ($51.3)
SB ($50)
BB ($83.4)
UTG ($62.75)
MP ($50.75)

Preflop:  Hero is MP with X X

UTG folds, MP raises to $1.5, CO calls $1.5, BTN & SB fold, BB calls $1

Flop: (Pot is $4.50, 3 players)

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BB checks, MP bets $3.5, CO calls $3.5, BB folds

Turn: (Pot is $11.25, 2 players)

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MP bets $9, CO calls $9

River: (Pot is $27.50, 2 players)

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Total Pot: $29.75 | Rake: $29.75

Zadnji popravljao AlphaScorpii (02-03-2011 20:05:42)

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Re: NL50: range za vbet/c/fold vs nitty likova

ti si?

vjerovatno MP, zanemari

Zadnji popravljao lupac (02-03-2011 20:02:55)

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Re: NL50: range za vbet/c/fold vs nitty likova

lupac napisao:

ti si?

vjerovatno MP, zanemari

da, sry malo sam imao problema se konvertiranjem jer sam karte izbacio, al sredio sam sad

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Re: NL50: range za vbet/c/fold vs nitty likova

sa setom nemas kaj razmisljati bet/call
sa overpairom isto moras  betat jer ce te cesto callat sa handom tipa 66, 77, 99. Na raise je vjerovatno fold

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Re: NL50: range za vbet/c/fold vs nitty likova

Turn size mi se cini ok od 7$ do 9$. River sa setovima (tj. full i poker) i QQ+ betas mini 15$ a max koliko god mislis da ce platit sa TP, 99, TT, (77, 66) i callas shove. Ako je villan sklon slowplayu onda sa 99-JJ mozes river manje betat (10$) i foldat na raise.

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Re: NL50: range za vbet/c/fold vs nitty likova

flop betaš 3,5$, on call-a,sve 5. Turn dolazi 3 koja ne mijenja previše ti betaš 9$ u cca 11$, on plaća. Tvoj je line tu poprilično jak i ako on to ima na umu mislim da 44,55,66,77 kombinacije možemo eliminirat.Ostaju 99,TT od kojih si jači. Iako, ako on tu misli da je s 99 dobar onda to vrlo vjerojatno misli i za 77,66... jer mu jedino 8 čini razliku koja ti nije u range-u osim seta. Ako mislimo valubetat river, dakle da nas plate tipa 99,TT slažem se s onim što je Tonči napisao, betat oko 10$ što će nas vjerojatno platit na riveru i foldat na shove. Izvlačiš maximalan value kada te plati(jer tipa 23$ bet će mu izgledat to strong), a minimiziraš gubitak kada shova.

Nowdays, at financial crisis, I dont give people to much kredit for second and third barrel!
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