Tema: RMA666 HH

#1 Vs. 27/23, AFQ: 34, CB: 75
Kako bi odigrali turn? Kako bi odigrali river  :card_heart  ili  :card_spade ako ste za bet/call na turnu?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

UTG ($60.58)
CO ($84.99)
BTN ($39.55)
SB (RMA666) ($51.03)
BB ($50.75)

Dealt to SB (RMA666)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG folds, CO raises to $1.5, BTN folds, SB (RMA666) calls $1.25, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $3.5, 2 players)

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SB (RMA666) checks, CO checks

Turn: (Pot is $3.5, 2 players)

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SB (RMA666) bets $2.5, CO raises to $10

River: (Pot is $16, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $16 | Rake: $16

Zadnji popravljao RufMichAn666 (26-03-2011 16:49:57)

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Re: RMA666 HH

#2 Vs. 21/18, AFQ: 30
Sta na turnu? Sta na riveru? Bilo kojem, jer su board +akcija vec dovoljno scarry za set.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

SB ($50.65)
BB ($50.83)
UTG ($54.14)
MP ($55.17)
CO (RMA666) ($57.75)
BTN ($58.96)

Dealt to CO (RMA666)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG & MP fold, CO (RMA666) raises to $1.5, BTN calls $1.5, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $3.75, 2 players)

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CO (RMA666) bets $2.5, BTN calls $2.5

Turn: (Pot is $8.75, 2 players)

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CO (RMA666) bets $6.56, BTN raises to $17.62

River: (Pot is $32.93, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $32.93 | Rake: $32.93

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Re: RMA666 HH

Prvi hand bih raisao do 25$, a drugi bi vjerojatno betao manje turn, pa bi lakše callao raise, isplativo bi mi bilo.

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Re: RMA666 HH

Set na wet boardu 100bb deep je stackoff hand.

Ja u drugoj ruci nikad ne callam turn, smatram da je to bacanje novaca.

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Re: RMA666 HH

Prvi hand bi call. Ne vidim šta beatamo, a da on ne cbeta flop...
Drugi hand bi isto samo call i river vjerojatno fold da se ne spari, osim ako beta jako malo.

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AlphaScorpii napisao:

Prvi hand bi call. Ne vidim šta beatamo, a da on ne cbeta flop...

Pa na što ga stavljaš?

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Re: RMA666 HH

1. hand raise uvijek i stackoff obv.
2.hand call i vidjet akciju na riveru

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Rear_Admiral napisao:
AlphaScorpii napisao:

Prvi hand bi call. Ne vidim šta beatamo, a da on ne cbeta flop...

Pa na što ga stavljaš?

Kad bolje razmislim, vjerojatno bi se i ja zastackao. Mislim ako cbeta FD onda valjda cbeta i OESD. Problem je što ne vidim made hand kojeg on raise-a na turnu (možda K9 iako ne vjerujem). Mislim da ćemo tu često gledat neki kombo draw ili TJ...
U svakom slučaju nisam prenabrijan što se tiče ovog seta...

Zadnji popravljao AlphaScorpii (27-03-2011 14:09:27)

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Mislim da je ovo klasican AK play,   I da imamo bolji hand.
Svaki set, svaki over pair, svaki draw(TJ) cbeta ovdje! Milijun turnova je scary mislim da jedino o maximum value mozemo pricat ovdje, fold nikako!

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Klasičan AK play? Neznam kad sam zadnji put vidio nekoga da je raise-ao AK u ovoj situaciji...

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E ljudi, imam pitanje. Gdje vi tocno vidite razliku izmedju 1. i 2. henda? Board je usran u oba slucaja, a mi imamo set. Ne vidim razlog za call u 2. hendu ako cemo razmatrat o foldanju na riveru.

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Re: RMA666 HH

A sto kazete drugi hend? Racunao sam u pstoveu,ako villain rejza 2.5x mogu callat turn rejz i foldat ne spareni river,a ovako kad rejza malo vise, call je -EV ako rejza turn samo s flushem. Sad nezz koliko cesto relativno unknown igrac semi-blefira s A :card_spade ili s jos necim gorim da call bude +EV,pretpostavljam da 2para,parovi,skale samo callaju turn bet,sta vi mislite?

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Re: RMA666 HH

boboman napisao:

E ljudi, imam pitanje. Gdje vi tocno vidite razliku izmedju 1. i 2. henda? Board je usran u oba slucaja, a mi imamo set. Ne vidim razlog za call u 2. hendu ako cemo razmatrat o foldanju na riveru.

Mislim da ima puno razlike u 2.hendu jer je dosla treca karta za flush pa je board dosta losiji nego u prvom hendu. Pogotovo zato jer pretpostavljamo da u 1. beta JT na flopu pa ga ne stavljamo na str8.

Zadnji popravljao RufMichAn666 (27-03-2011 14:55:29)

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Re: RMA666 HH

1. ne izgleda mi bas ko blef kad te rejza 4x, al s druge strane mi nije najjasnije sto moze imat ak cbeta 75. ja bi callao i x/c svaki river ne zato jer se bojim da je jaci nego jer mi izgleda fos. ak se ispostavi da je imao KQ, JT, KK, QQ, fd onda ga pocnes x/rejzat vise

2. callao bi posto imas oddsea i shipao svaki river koji spari board. istina da ti je ruka face up al ne bih mu dao dovoljno kredita da ce bacit flush

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