Tema: EV line

Ne kužim kako se računa ta EV line u HEM-u i koliko bi ona ustvari trebala imati utjecaj na našu igru?
Trebamo li se zabrinuti kada je ispod ili se trebamo zvati nesretnima ako je iznad winninga?

Meni osobno je iznad winninga, ali 3 handa gdje sam osvojio potove , a po EV sam kao trebao biti u minusu?!?
Kod 1. handa EV -6,5 kod 2. -3,5 i kod 3. -1,33...

Molim komentare jer mi ovo nikak nema smisla...

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

UTG ($4.77)
CO ($4.7)
BTN ($12.32)
SB (niveaformen) ($11.48)
BB ($10.5)

Dealt to SB (niveaformen)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG & CO fold, BTN calls $0.1, SB (niveaformen) raises to $0.4, BB folds, BTN calls $0.3

Flop: (Pot is $0.9, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
SB (niveaformen) checks, BTN bets $0.3, SB (niveaformen) raises to $1.05, BTN calls $0.75

Turn: (Pot is $3, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png
SB (niveaformen) bets $1.7, BTN raises to $10.87 (All-In), SB (niveaformen) calls $8.33 (All-In)

River: (Pot is $23.9, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png

Showdown:
BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
(One Pair, Kings)

SB (niveaformen) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(One Pair, Aces)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $23.9 | Rake: $1.15

Winners:
BTN wins $0.84
SB (niveaformen) wins $21.91




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

CO ($10)
BTN ($4.03)
SB ($9.5)
BB ($9.65)
UTG ($21.07)
MP (niveaformen) ($13.26)

Dealt to MP (niveaformen)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG folds, MP (niveaformen) raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, BTN folds, SB raises to $1.15, BB folds, MP (niveaformen) raises to $3.9, CO folds, SB raises to $9.5 (All-In), MP (niveaformen) calls $5.6

Flop: (Pot is $19.45, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png

Turn: (Pot is $19.45, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png

River: (Pot is $19.45, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

Showdown:
SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png
(Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)

MP (niveaformen) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $19.45 | Rake: $0.97

Winners:
MP (niveaformen) wins $18.48




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

SB ($10.72)
BB ($18.84)
UTG ($16.59)
MP (niveaformen) ($18.82)
CO ($10)
BTN ($11.4)

Dealt to MP (niveaformen)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG folds, MP (niveaformen) raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, SB raises to $1.7, BB folds, MP (niveaformen) raises to $4.4, BTN folds, SB calls $2.7

Flop: (Pot is $9.25, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png
SB bets $6.32 (All-In), MP (niveaformen) calls $6.32

Turn: (Pot is $21.89, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png

River: (Pot is $21.89, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png

Showdown:
SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png
(One Pair, Twos)

MP (niveaformen) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Twos)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $21.89 | Rake: $1.09

Winners:
MP (niveaformen) wins $20.8




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Re: EV line

LOL! Nesto krivo racunas!

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Re: EV line

HM računa EV od trenutka kad ste gurnuli all in. Ako se ne gurne all in tad je EV u minusu tolko kolko je bio izgubljeni pot, ili u plusu tolko kolko je bio dobiveni pot.

Objasnit ću to na prvoj ruci:
Šansa (na turnu) da dobiješ je bila 70.455%, a da izgubiš 29.545%. Pot je bio $21.91.
Tvoj EV je po tome $15.44 (70.455%*$21.91) ilitiga razlika je $6.5

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