Tema: bluff or value shove

kao sto je u naslovu nisam siguran dali je njegov play na riveru za value ili bluff.
stavio sam ga na poket pair ili flush draw, posebno nakon sto je napravio c/r pa c/c turn.
valjda bi K raiso na turnu zbog FD.
onda pak na riveru, ovaj donk shove mi nije jasan. jel hitnuo set tj. full ili je missani draw nemam pojma.
malo mi je falilo da napravim hero call.

jel ispravno razmisljanje ili idem u krivom smjeru?

villan: 24 20 3,7 // cbet:69

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BB ($25.35)
UTG ($25)
MP (money_tra1n) ($28.52)
CO ($35.67)
BTN ($16.6)
SB ($20.67)

Dealt to MP (money_tra1n)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG raises to $0.75, MP (money_tra1n) calls $0.75, CO & BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $1.85, 2 players)

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UTG checks, MP (money_tra1n) bets $1.25, UTG raises to $2.75, MP (money_tra1n) calls $1.5

Turn: (Pot is $7.35, 2 players)

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UTG checks, MP (money_tra1n) bets $4, UTG calls $4

River: (Pot is $15.35, 2 players)

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UTG bets $17.5 (All-In), MP (money_tra1n) folds,

                                                                     
Total Pot: $15.35 | Rake: $0.69

Winners:
UTG wins $14.66

Zadnji popravljao whitewalk3r (03-03-2012 18:13:31)

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Re: bluff or value shove

zasto betas ti dva streta za value ili bluf ako ces foldat river..to je pitanje,a ne zasto on sava river

next year at this time i will be milionar....a vrime je..

Re: bluff or value shove

zarinjo napisao:

zasto betas ti dva streta za value ili bluf ako ces foldat river..to je pitanje,a ne zasto on sava river

kao da sam ja znao da ce on napravit shove, a i ne razmisljam o toj mogucnosti kad krenem sa nekakvim planom na flopu. nisam jos toliko dobar da u glavi imam 7 scenarija a posebno ovaj shove medju njima koji se desava jednom u 3 sessiona.

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Re: bluff or value shove

Isuse kakvi retardirani lineovi (njegovi) !?!
Uopče ne kuzim kakva je to fora i s cim se cr ovaj flop, onda opet chekira turn!
A kao ima reg statse. Moguće de levelao sa Kx i zeo retardiran line da dobije hero call.
Busted je fd, pa cesto igraci znaju s nutsem promijeniti smijer na riveru i shipati kako bi dobili hero call od pp ili tako neceg.
Sumnjam da ikada ovako odigrava TT+, moze imati recimo 77 pa to protecta na flopu, o puno tome se ima razmisljati u ovom handu.
Ak već ima takve lineove ca cr, mozda je najbolje chekirati turn !
As played stvarno ne znam!

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Re: bluff or value shove

easy fold, ti izgledas prestrong da bi te isao blefat, a i on nikad nema air kad c/c turn. Ako je igrac koji ce shipat river sa fd onda ce betat turn s fd

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