Tema: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Villain je:
30/18/2.5, fold to 3bet:30, 4bet range:2, fold to cb:50

Lik otvara sa svih pozicija oko 30 i voli betat na slabost. Kako odigrati ovakav spot?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

BTN ($23.9)
SB (zvjezdan) ($21.19)
BB ($20)
UTG ($37.05)
MP ($20)
CO ($27.97)

Dealt to SB (zvjezdan)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG & MP fold, CO raises to $0.8, BTN folds, SB (zvjezdan) raises to $3, BB folds, CO calls $2.2

Flop: (Pot is $6.2, 2 players)

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SB (zvjezdan) bets $3.1, CO calls $3.1

Turn: (Pot is $12.4, 2 players)

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SB (zvjezdan) bets $7, CO raises to $21.87 (All-In), SB (zvjezdan) folds

                                                                     
Total Pot: $41.27 | Rake: $1.32

Winners:
CO wins $39.95




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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Jel ima tu neko pitanje ili?

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Šta ti nije jasno? Gore piše kako inače odigrati ovo?

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Ako mu je fto 3bet30% to znaci da ce vjerojatno imat i neke handove kao 98s,66,K10 i slicno u rangeu a i rekao si da beta na slabost tako da je najbolje ovdje c/c flop.Das mu da blefa sve te 66,98s handove.Ako betas flop vjerojatno dobijas call od samo onog sto te bita.

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Slažem se s cromanom.
Betanjem 2 streeta pretvaraš hand u bluff na boardu koju jako pogadja njegov range.

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

sry, debil sam. Nisam procitao do kraja.
Decki ti odgovorise.
Btw, ponekad ja tu volim c/r flop za bluff.

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Što na turnu kada c/c flop*

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Zavisi koji je turn,na ovom turnu bi vjerojatno jos jednom c/c i onda odlucio sta na riveru,vjerojatno moras foldat river ako nastavi betat.

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

Cbetam flop i  c/f turn  gotovo uvijek, nemaš tu šta izmišljat, rjetko će fletat slabiji hand, sa turn betom pretvaraš hand u blef i nikada nećeš dobiti call od slabijeg !

rounder1984 napisao:

sry, debil sam. Nisam procitao do kraja.
Decki ti odgovorise.
Btw, ponekad ja tu volim c/r flop za bluff.

Ovo mi se nimalo ne sviđa!

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Re: NL20 - JJ 3bet oop

ja bi c/f turn...a i da imaš nuts, bet sizing ne valja jer ti na riveru ostaje 8$ a pot je 26$.
svaki street treba konstrurati bet da ti na riveru ispada neki normalan stack za shove, naravno u ovoj situaciji nečeš shipat river.

If the player is unlikely to pay you off,
he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!
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