Tema: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Call ili raise. Ako raise, do koliko?

UTG - dobar regular, UTG open: 21%, cbet: 81%
MP - nemam handova na njemu (to najčešće znači da je fish)

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $1
Big Blind: $2

BTN ($1173.33)
SB ($200)
BB ($272.89)
UTG ($270.83)
MP ($397.87)
CO (fakker11) ($200)

Dealt to CO (fakker11)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $3)

UTG raises to $6, MP calls $6, CO (fakker11) calls $6, BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $21, 3 players)

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UTG bets $14, MP calls $14, CO (fakker11)???

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Imo call flop, ako na turnu ne dođe  heart  ili 4 onda bi shipnuo

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

ja bi raise ovdije, ono bed je kad ep pogotovo utg cbeta takav board u troje, ali 80% je jako puno, a i ima dosta overparova u rangeu, i fd handova,  a fish je fish

ak raiseamo oko 55 onda damo negdje oko 2,5:1 tak da je to ok, mislim da je manje premalo

s tim da u igri nebi stigo razmišljat pa bi vjerojatno onak po filingu drmno

da su druge pozicije možda bi trebalo i više, jer ak reg calla brijem da će fish uvijek overcallat, ali mislim da tu utg jako rijetko calla

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Nebi callo prf,foldo bi ili 3bet.Flop je polusranje jer vjerojatno moras rejzat al kad god tu rejzas izgledas ko monster i vjerojatno ce foldat sve al opet valjda te mogu stavit na neke drawowe i sipnut KK i slicno.Ako callas niko te nikad nece staviti na monster al previse je drawowa i scare karata i svega na turnu tako da nebi callo skoro nikad ovako protiv 2 igraca.

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

croman dobro veli da raise tu izgleda ko monster, ali mislim da se moramo koncentrirati na valeu od fisha tak da nam odgovara da reg folda dio equityja (22, 33, 77, 88, Ah ili tak neke)
ja sam za raise do 45-50$. UTG reg bude tu foldal jako puno, a fish bu callal sa slabijim

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Kad nitko više ne odgovara, stavljam nastavak handa...

Mislim da je najbolji rejz. Reg najčešće neće callati, a protiv njegovog shove-a ima break evenish call. Ali glavni razlog rejza je valuebetanje ribe koja će nakon što regular folda callati s širokim range-om. Jedino sam pogriješio sizeing. Da sad igram stavio bih oko 55, da nedajem dobre oddove drawu i da mogu shovati turn.

A što sad, nakon ove akcije?

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $1
Big Blind: $2

BTN ($1173.33)
SB ($200)
BB ($272.89)
UTG ($270.83)
MP ($397.87)
CO (fakker11) ($200)

Dealt to CO (fakker11)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $3)

UTG raises to $6, MP calls $6, CO (fakker11) calls $6, BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $21, 3 players)

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UTG bets $14, MP calls $14, CO (fakker11) raises to $43, UTG raises to $90, MP calls $76, CO (fakker11) ???

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

mislim da si crushan od rega i da moras foldati
bluff nema nikad zbog ribe u potu tak da vjerujem da ima set ili 78s. Axhh mislim da calla tvoj raise

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Ne igram zoom, ali mislim da je i malo veći range s early pozicija u zoom pokeru, ili? Pa ako i ima fisha s lijeve strane i setovi su mu u opening rangeu, pa i 78. Tako da bih foldao, jer nut flush ne bi smio samo raizat budući da je OOP i lako ga fish može samo callati.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

kak bi reg tu trebao odigrat QQ+?

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Foldati. Moj range za rejz ovdje je jaki draw ili 2 para +. Znači, ili je crushani ili je flip.

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Evo cijeli hand. Foldao sam jer mislim da regular ovako nikad neće odigrati draw. Ili će callati ili zgurati.

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $1
Big Blind: $2

BTN ($1173.33)
SB ($200)
BB ($272.89)
UTG ($270.83)
MP ($397.87)
CO (fakker11) ($200)

Dealt to CO (fakker11)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $3)

UTG raises to $6, MP calls $6, CO (fakker11) calls $6, BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $21, 3 players)

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UTG bets $14, MP calls $14, CO (fakker11) raises to $43, UTG raises to $90, MP calls $76, CO (fakker11) folds

Turn: (Pot is $244, 2 players)

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UTG bets $174.83 (All-In), MP calls $174.83

River: (Pot is $593.66, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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Showdown:
UTG shows
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(Straight, Six high)

MP shows
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(Straight, Six high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $593.66 | Rake: $2.8

Winners:
UTG wins $295.43
MP wins $295.43

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Re: nl200 zoom, 3way flop, 2 para

Wow, malo kockarsi reraise od rega jer vam daje odlicne oddove za call... Ocito nije htio izgubiti ribu u potu, a i vs tebe ce se tako i tako zgurati... Jedini razlog da nije shipo je riba u potu...

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