Tema: shot nl30 par handova

readless, samo nešto osnovno, prvi session/shot na nl 30 nakon dosta vremena (imo shotove davno na nl50 na mergeu koji su bili promašaj, jebiga sami ameri tamo bili) pa da vidim dal su ok playevi

prvi hand lik me taman prije par handova 3beto , na 20 ruku 30/30 čini se agro
drugi hand 40/0 isto 20 ruku, čini se super pasivan postflop, za sad nikakve agresije
treći , a poster , prvi hand

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.15
Big Blind: $0.30

BB ($90.48)
UTG ($13.81)
CO ($29.88)
BTN (hero) ($29.4)
SB ($29.7)

Dealt to BTN (hero)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.45)

UTG calls $0.3, CO raises to $1.4, BTN (hero) raises to $3.9, SB & BB fold, UTG calls $3.6, CO calls $2.5

Flop: (Pot is $12.15, 3 players)

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UTG checks, CO checks, BTN (hero) bets $6, UTG folds, CO raises to $25.98 (All-In)

Turn: (Pot is $44.13, 2 players, 1 all-in)


River: (Pot is $44.13, 2 players, 1 all-in)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $44.13 | Rake: $44.13




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.15
Big Blind: $0.30

SB (hero) ($40.92)
BB ($30)
UTG ($34.54)
MP ($19.95)
CO ($31.11)
BTN ($35.39)

Dealt to SB (hero)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.45)

UTG raises to $0.9, MP calls $0.9, CO folds, BTN calls $0.9, SB (hero) raises to $4.8, BB folds, UTG calls $3.9, MP calls $3.9, BTN folds

Flop: (Pot is $15.6, 3 players)

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SB (hero) bets $9, UTG calls $9, MP folds

Turn: (Pot is $33.6, 2 players)

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River: (Pot is $33.6, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $33.6 | Rake: $33.6




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.15
Big Blind: $0.30

BB (hero) ($30)
UTG ($34.59)
MP ($30)
CO ($32.01)
BTN ($29.84)
SB ($30.56)

Dealt to BB (hero)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG folds, MP checks, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB (hero) checks

Flop: (Pot is $0.75, 2 players)

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BB (hero) checks, MP bets $0.6, BB (hero) calls $0.6

Turn: (Pot is $1.95, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png    http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png
BB (hero) checks, MP bets $1.95, BB (hero) calls $1.95

River: (Pot is $5.85, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png   http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
BB (hero) checks, MP bets $4.35

                                                                     
Total Pot: $10.2 | Rake: $10.2




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Re: shot nl30 par handova

1. ja bih callao i molio se da ima random blef ili flush draw. Možeš i foldati ako si već došao na veći level, nije da gubiš lovu ako foldaš, možda čak i nije +EV call.

2. Check fold, ako je pasivan neće betati slabi K jer se boji flusha

3. callaš turn, callaš i river. IMO ne bi callao turn

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Re: shot nl30 par handova

1. hand može biti i fold i call. Ovisi o tome s čim misliš da može shovati / callati 3bet.
Zbog jednostavnosti, pretpostavimo da nikad neće zgurati na bleff (a i niti neće u 95% slučajeva).
Ak recimo calla 3bet dosta tight (npr. KJs. KQs, AJs, AQ, 99+), onda je fold jer FD-ova ima samo 2 kombinacije (KQ i AQ) i s TT imaš 24% equity-a, a za call ti treba 34%.
Ak dodamo u 3bet calling range-u još Axhh, QJs, JTs, 22+ i pretpostavimo da shipa FD, Jx i 22 onda dobijemo oko 38% equity-a što znači da je call mali +EV-
Ak dodamo i AJo, onda imamo 33% pa je call mali -EV.

Jedino ako mislimo da će shovati 99, 88 i sl., imamo čisti call jer ako samo dodamo 88 i 99 u shoving range, equity nam skače na 50%.

Bez nekih informacija, ja bi foldao jer najčešće regovi nemaju tako širok calling range, a teško da guraju tu handove poput 88 i 99.

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Re: shot nl30 par handova

2. hand
Ups... ja cijelo vrijeme pišem post kao da je običan pot i onda skužim da je 3betani i to do 16 bb-a.
Shipam to uvijek. Callat će te s bilo kojim  diamond  i s Kx. Pošto je 3betani pot nemože imati puno flusheva jer teško da calla 3bet s 93s. Plus, još je on openao tak da ima dosta jak range.

3. hand
Ja bi betao flop.
As played, turn sam li-la, makar sad više naginjem na fold, mislim da bi u igri callao. River callam. Imaš split protiv dosta aseva, a i river mu je sjebao neke dvopare.

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Re: shot nl30 par handova

prvi sam nakon tanka callo, slično sam razmišljo ko i ti, s tim da nisam vjerovo da ima Jx, okrenuo je A diamond 2 diamond  roll , s tim da j poslij igro agro ali ništ preludo
vs normalnih regova na nl20 ja ovo snap foldam, ali ovdije, ni sad neznam šta je ispravno, išo sam za prvim filingom da je jako agro, jebiga nemaš ništ drugo na 20 ruku

drugi sam shipo i lik foldo, ono znao sam pot kontrolat i onda mi padne x diamond , i poludim

treći sam scallo , a ono mislim da i ovakvi čak znaju da ja ovdije skoro nikad nemam A, 8 me zbedirala na riv ali ak ima 8x zašto potat turn, na kraju ono ak sam chekiral s namjerom da on beta onda  nisam mogo bacit, bil sam dobar al neznam šta je točno imo neki mali pocket brijem

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Re: shot nl30 par handova

1. bih b/f
2. Ship turn
3.Callam riv

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Re: shot nl30 par handova

Jos da dodam sta mislim za zadnji na turnu,turn je definitivno call. Board je dovoljno drawy da villain moze imati dovoljno blefova za tvoj +ev call. River bih c/f protiv pametnog rega jer je to najgori card za blef,a protiv ovog lika koji je ocito sjeban jer limpa preflop bih c/callao jer on vjerojatno ne zna sta radi.

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