Tema: Ufff koje su to sanse

Hhh vecerasnji session na NL10 odigran solidno prva 3 sata sessiona plus oko 50$. Zadovoljan igrom uzeo sam malu pauzu oko ponoci. Nastavio za 15 min i sve je bilo okk plus se jos povecavao, a onda negdje 15 do 3 ujutro ode sav trud  sad  Evo ruku koje su me izhebale posteno.

prva ruka - limpaju ribetine, a TJs ko stvoreno za limpanje... ribetina me na riveru lijepo uzela...

druga ruka... villian je reg na NL10 i solidno igra pa rejzao za value.. ode jos 10$...

treća ruka - slijedecih 10$... flop odlican bio sam gotovo siguran da ima Kx... inace ovo je ribetina... razmisljao sam o setovima ali AA ovdje necu nikad foldat

četvrta ruka- ova ruka je opet izlimpana... limpera ko blata a ruka mi se cinila ok... flopam 2 para. KT me crusha.. ali protiv ribetina sam sigurno ispred tako da sam pot betao da se ne zajebavaju samnom... river opet cuda nosi... ovu ruku sam cak mozda i malo krivo odigrao.

peta ruka - - ovo se ne viđa često... turn sam vjerojatno trebao betati makar vjerujem da bi me oba calling stationa callala...


Ukratko to su najzanimljivije. bilo je toga jos ali nisu neki veliki  gubitci... mislim da solidno igram (btw recite moguce greske na ovim rukama) zahvaljujem se

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

SB ($15.14)
BB ($14.11)
UTG ($4.75)
MP ($12.35)
CO (Hero) ($9.25)
BTN ($22.89)

Dealt to CO (Hero)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG calls $0.1, MP calls $0.1, CO (Hero) calls $0.1, BTN raises to $0.65, SB & BB fold, UTG calls $0.55, MP folds, CO (Hero) calls $0.55

Flop: (Pot is $2.2, 3 players)

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UTG checks, CO (Hero) checks, BTN bets $2, UTG folds, CO (Hero) calls $2

Turn: (Pot is $6.2, 2 players)

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CO (Hero) checks, BTN bets $7, CO (Hero) calls $6.6 (All-In)

River: (Pot is $19.8, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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Showdown:
CO (Hero) shows
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(Three of a Kind, Tens)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png
(Full House, Fours over Tens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $19.8 | Rake: $0.97

Winners:
BTN wins $18.83




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

UTG ($3.04)
MP ($1.03)
CO ($15.03)
BTN ($11.3)
SB ($9.92)
BB (Hero) ($11.48)

Dealt to BB (Hero)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG & MP fold, CO raises to $0.2, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.7, BB (Hero) calls $0.6, CO calls $0.5

Flop: (Pot is $2.1, 3 players)

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SB bets $1.4, BB (Hero) raises to $4.2, CO folds, SB raises to $9.22 (All-In), BB (Hero) calls $5.02

Turn: (Pot is $20.54, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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River: (Pot is $20.54, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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Showdown:
SB shows
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(Three of a Kind, Queens)

BB (Hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png
(Three of a Kind, Eights)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $20.54 | Rake: $1.02

Winners:
SB wins $19.52




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

BTN ($8.49)
SB ($13.44)
BB ($6.29)
UTG (Hero) ($10)
CO ($17.36)

Dealt to UTG (Hero)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG (Hero) raises to $0.4, CO calls $0.4, BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $0.95, 2 players)

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UTG (Hero) bets $0.71, CO calls $0.71

Turn: (Pot is $2.37, 2 players)

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UTG (Hero) bets $2.37, CO raises to $4.74, UTG (Hero) raises to $7.11, CO raises to $16.25 (All-In), UTG (Hero) calls $1.78 (All-In)

River: (Pot is $27.51, 2 players, 2 all-in)

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Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows
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(One Pair, Aces)

CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png
(Three of a Kind, Eights)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $27.51 | Rake: $1

Winners:
CO wins $26.51




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

UTG ($2.8)
MP ($10.89)
CO (Hero) ($23.34)
BTN ($18.93)
SB ($10.14)
BB ($10)

Dealt to CO (Hero)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.25)

UTG checks, MP calls $0.1, CO (Hero) calls $0.1, BTN raises to $0.65, SB folds, BB calls $0.55, UTG folds, MP calls $0.55, CO (Hero) calls $0.55

Flop: (Pot is $2.75, 4 players)

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BB checks, MP checks, CO (Hero) bets $2.85, BTN folds, BB calls $2.85, MP folds

Turn: (Pot is $8.45, 2 players)

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BB bets $4.23, CO (Hero) raises to $19.84 (All-In), BB calls $2.27 (All-In)

River: (Pot is $34.79, 2 players, 2 all-in)

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Showdown:
CO (Hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
(Two Pair, Jacks and Nines)

BB shows
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(Two Pair, Queens and Fours)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $34.79 | Rake: $1.07

Winners:
CO (Hero) wins $13.34
BB wins $20.38




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

MP ($20.14)
CO ($10)
BTN ($6.3)
SB ($10.33)
BB (Hero) ($10)
UTG ($10.32)

Dealt to BB (Hero)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG folds, MP calls $0.1, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.2, SB folds, BB (Hero) raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.65, BTN calls $0.55

Flop: (Pot is $2.3, 3 players)

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BB (Hero) checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: (Pot is $2.3, 3 players)

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BB (Hero) checks, MP checks, BTN checks

River: (Pot is $2.3, 3 players)

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BB (Hero) bets $2.3, MP raises to $19.39 (All-In), BTN calls $5.55 (All-In), BB (Hero) calls $6.95 (All-In)

Showdown:
MP shows
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(Straight Flush, Six high)

BTN shows
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(Straight Flush, Seven high)

BB (Hero) shows
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(Flush, Ace high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $36.49 | Rake: $1.31

Winners:
MP wins $17.16
BTN wins $18.02




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JTs ruka -  rejz pf, uvijek izoliraj limpere u poziciji

AA - ne vjerujem da tu rejza bez 2 para, samog K skoro nikad, a fd bi valjda na flopu

J9s - rejz pre, ovako odigrano fold pre, oop si s marginalnom rukom

AQo - bet flop, bet turn, check fold river, ovako si najgore odigrao, check chek, potiraš najgori river pa nakon rejza i calla ti callaš, možeš čak ček callati neki gaybet protiv 1 protivnika ali ovako  roll

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Je ova zadnja ruka je za q... odigrao sam je skroz mutavo... zato i postam da vidim di grijesim jer ovo me danas kostalo profita  smile  ... btw rijetko kad se vidja takva ruka

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Boby napisao:

AQo - bet flop, bet turn, check fold river, ovako si najgore odigrao, check chek, potiraš najgori river pa nakon rejza i calla ti callaš, možeš čak ček callati neki gaybet protiv 1 protivnika ali ovako  roll

cehck / fold riverr  ti mora da se  zajebavas, pa dobiva ga samo straight  flush, ja  bi beto 1,5 $ i ak mi ovak 2. zguraju znam da  neko mora imat  str8 flush jel nemaju s  cim drugim gurat dvojica
1,2,4 nisi uopce  smio bit  u handu to moras  foldat  preflop
AA si naletio a AQ nisi imo srece

Zadnji popravljao puki86 (17-04-2010 09:56:27)

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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puki86 napisao:

1,2,4 nisi uopce  smio bit  u handu to moras  foldat  preflop

88 fold preflop?  roll

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Tilt napisao:
puki86 napisao:

1,2,4 nisi uopce  smio bit  u handu to moras  foldat  preflop

88 fold preflop?  roll

mislim da  to mora foldat,treba  platit jos 6 BB za call  a CO ce sigurno callat nakon sto ti udes, znaci trebas pogodit  set  na  flopu..
vidit  cemo sta ce roba  rec smile

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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puki86 napisao:
Tilt napisao:
puki86 napisao:

1,2,4 nisi uopce  smio bit  u handu to moras  foldat  preflop

88 fold preflop?  roll

mislim da  to mora foldat,treba  platit jos 6 BB za call  a CO ce sigurno callat nakon sto ti udes, znaci trebas pogodit  set  na  flopu..
vidit  cemo sta ce roba  rec smile

sorry, nisam vidio da je 3betani pot...

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Nznm meni se cini da je ok uci u limpani pot sa sjutanim konektorima (srednje vrijednosti) u kasnijoj poziciji i ako je multiway(makar sam mogao i foldati nakon rejza BTN-a, sto bih i ucinio da ovi prije mene nisu callali makar je i to upitno) ali sve ovo su bile ribetine i preuzeo sam rizik jer ako flopam nesto stackam ih garant - sto se  i vidilo jer debil je cijeli stack ugurao sa 44... problem je jedino u tome sto je na flopu pot ogroman pa ako obojica imamo nesto nece bti veselo

- zanimljivo da se sve ovo desilo u razmaku od 10-15 min  big_smile Sav trud od 5h mi je osao  lol

Inace se u limpanim potovima ne trudim natjerivati sa villianima ako nemam odličan equity jer sam skuzio da tamo ispusim more para (jednostavno neznas sto ce ti pokazat na showdownu )

Btw ova zadnja ruka je bzvz  odigrana ali posto su oba ribetine cak sam mislio da imaju K ili Q makar je moja greska ogromna i to priznajem  smile

- za 88 se slazem da sam trebo foldat jer je -EV

Slusam sve savjete  smile  Hvala na dosadasnjim odgovorima jer ipak sam ja jos pocetnik  cool

Zadnji popravljao Bebach (17-04-2010 10:48:24)

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puki86 napisao:

cehck / fold riverr  ti mora da se  zajebavas, pa dobiva ga samo straight  flush, ja  bi beto 1,5 $ i ak mi ovak 2. zguraju znam da  neko mora imat  str8 flush jel nemaju s  cim drugim gurat dvojica

Ovisi o protivniku, al mislim da protiv agresivnijeg protivnika betanjem mu daješ dobru šansu da te blefira.

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Boby napisao:
puki86 napisao:

cehck / fold riverr  ti mora da se  zajebavas, pa dobiva ga samo straight  flush, ja  bi beto 1,5 $ i ak mi ovak 2. zguraju znam da  neko mora imat  str8 flush jel nemaju s  cim drugim gurat dvojica

Ovisi o protivniku, al mislim da protiv agresivnijeg protivnika betanjem mu daješ dobru šansu da te blefira.

pa  u ovom slucaju mislim da je tako bolje ,i kad  betas  1,5  uvijek mozes  dobit  call od  K mozda  i babe, bar  znas di  si, npr ti cekiras MP beta i button zgura prek njega  i nemas  pojma  di si, a  ovaj je  MP mogao betat K high flush a button blefirat..
a i neznam koliko karinih 7 i 2 ima u njihovm rangeu posto je  bio 3b  do 7,5 BB
i btw. ja  bi beto turn

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Evo, da i ja prokomentiram.

1. problem s limpanjem ako nisi na buttonu je ako te button izolira. Onda si OOP cijeli hand, a s suited conectorima to nije profitabilno. A pogotovo s JT jer te večina range-a za izoliranje dominira. Button ovdje nije nigdje pogriješio. Na flopu je cbetao, a na turnu je pretpostavio da si na FD pošto je došla još jedna T pa je manja šansa da ju ti imaš.
Najbolje je biti agresor. Ovu ruku si trebao ti izolirati i nebi bilo bad beata i ovaj bi foldao 44 već na flopu.

2. Fold preflop. Postiji šansa da CO 4beta i tad moraš baciti, a i nemaš dovoljne implied oddse za pogodit set.

3. I ja mislim da te na turnu ne rejza slabije, al neznam kak je na microlimitima.

4. Isto ko i prva ruka preflop.

5. obv fold river

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roba59 napisao:

5. obv fold river

ti bi check/ foldo river  ili bi foldo u ovoj situaciji koja  jasna ko dan  da  nije  dobar..
pitanje: jel bolje  izac  sa  nekim betom ili kak je  boby reko check /fold????

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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puki86 napisao:

pa  u ovom slucaju mislim da je tako bolje ,i kad  betas  1,5  uvijek mozes  dobit  call od  K mozda  i babe, bar  znas di  si, npr ti cekiras MP beta i button zgura prek njega  i nemas  pojma  di si, a  ovaj je  MP mogao betat K high flush a button blefirat..
a i neznam koliko karinih 7 i 2 ima u njihovm rangeu posto je  bio 3b  do 7,5 BB
i btw. ja  bi beto turn

U biti bet/fold tu nije loš ako si protiv stationa jer ima ruku koja izgleda na bluff, checkirao je flop i turn, a valjda bi betao flop s Ad, pa bi ovi možda i callali sa straightom, setom ili manjim flushom, al nakon rejza moraš foldati.

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Bet fold bolje. Da je callaju slabiji flushevi.

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Zahvaljujem se na profi odgovorima  smile

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nebreš s nešto tipa 10J na NL10 ući pogotovo na raise jer nikad ne znaš kaj ti protivnik može pokazati, da li jači hand ili blef, kaj se dosta često dešava.
Primjerice pogodiš J na flopu i možeš izgubiti i do cijelog stacka jer protivnik ima JQ+ a opet, kolko često blefaju, može imat i 22-1010 i callaš ga jer može imati svašta.
ovaj u prvom handu je mogao imati i JJ, i da ti nije izašla desetka na turnu si mogao izgubit dosta love.
govorim ti iz iskustva, igrao sam pred godinu dana na tim limitima i znam na čemu sam gubio lovu. Rade foldaj.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Ajd pošto mi je nl10 bio prijatelj zadnjih tjedan dana (dobar prijatelj), reći ću ti tvoje pogreške i mane (jer igrače kao ti su meni najslađi inače, nemoj se naljutiti, samo ti želim pomoći).
Kao prvo i osnovno pravilo: limp-call je najfishestija opcija koju netko može napraviti. Ako ćemo callati raise, zašto nerejsati sami i pokušati uzeti blindove?
Zbog takvog playa si ovdje spušio 2 handa (JTs i J9s). Ovaj sa J9s, 2 para su monter kad igraš protiv jednog igrača, ali pošto si limp-callao u igrao 4way pot, ovdje će likovi imati u 90% slučajeva jači hand od tebe: 2 jača para, Pair + SD (Straight Draw), Straight itd. itd.
AA hand tipičan, dobro odigran, u 95% slučajeva češ naići na lošije (KQ,KJ,FlushDraw, čak i na QQ,JJ,TT.
Šećer na kraju: AQ hand
1.Zašto nebetati flop?
2.Zašto nebetati turn?
3. Šta da je došao Kd na turnu? Nebi dobio nikakav value od njih...
odgovor na 1. : dobio bi call od obojice
odgovor na 2. : Q na turnu, otišao bi all-in sa ovim likom što drži 77
Ja bi iz ovog playa izvukao max. value i jedino što bi ga moglo spasiti bi bila onda sedmica i 6d.

Tko se moli i vjeruje u Isusa Krista, Isus će ga dočekati na času njegove smrti
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Sto bi se ljutio?  big_smile Zato i postam da ispravim greske cim prije  .  Da nisam usao u ove ruke sacuvao bih winingse taj dan. Makar sam mogao i zaraditi na ovim rukama da su riveri padali drugaciji... Ali posto sam learning player ne zamaram se time jer su ovo bili definitivno krivi playevei i drago mi je da sam ispusio na njima da ne ponavljam iste greske  wink Hvala

Zadnji popravljao Bebach (17-04-2010 15:52:09)

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