Tema: Mikrolimiti - Bebach

Evo otvaram novu temu posto se rasclanilo postanje po limitima...

1. ruka.... UTG 50/45, 3bet 22%, AF:4 - totalni fish donirao cijelu vecer  big_smile
                  MP 30/20. vise manje solidan ali losing igrac jer ima stupidne playeve i lako se ga cita...

Zvao sam OOP sa ovim kartama jer su vise manje igraci koji doniraju u potu... jel ok stejkoff na flopu? Na koji range is stavljate?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

UTG ($36.21)
CO ($26.01)
BTN ($42.35)
SB ($61.24)
BB (Hero) ($52.38)

Dealt to BB (Hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, BTN & SB fold, BB (Hero) calls $0.6

Flop: (Pot is $2.65, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png
BB (Hero) checks, UTG bets $1.77, CO raises to $5.9, BB (Hero) calls $5.9, UTG raises to $35.36 (All-In), CO calls $19.26 (All-In), BB (Hero) calls $29.46

Turn: (Pot is $98.53, 3 players, 2 all-in)


River: (Pot is $98.53, 3 players, 2 all-in)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $98.53 | Rake: $98.53

Zadnji popravljao Bebach (29-06-2010 10:21:18)

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Tvoj play mi je katastrofalan, imas igraca iza sebe, a callas rejz. Ja bi to foldo, nisi nista ulozio u pot, ali mozda mozes i zgurat iako ja ne bi.. Uglavnom call je po meni definitivno najgori.

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Fold preflop, fold flop.

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Najčešće si ovdje na 6 outa s opcijom redrawanja protivnika.

Tko se moli i vjeruje u Isusa Krista, Isus će ga dočekati na času njegove smrti
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I really fucked this hand...  i know sad

zato sam i postao... cinila mi se ok ideja callat posto su ribetine, a na flopu stvarno nisam sto bih... call, rejz  roll Znam da ovaj sto rejza, rejza sa svim i svačim... Ispostavilo se dobro za mene ali nedao Bog da vise zovem OOP sa sjutanim sranjima ( malo sam previse gledao Big Game  mad )


Btw koji line uzimate najćešće sa QJs, JTs, T9s i slicnim sjutanim kartama srednje vrijednosti iz blindova-- kako protiv tag playera, kako protiv lag playera ili ribe koji su open rejzali sa LP ili u multiway potu kao ovaj?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

UTG ($36.21)
CO ($26.01)
BTN ($42.35)
SB ($61.24)
BB (Hero) ($52.38)

Dealt to BB (Hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, BTN & SB fold, BB (Hero) calls $0.6

Flop: (Pot is $2.65, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png
BB (Hero) checks, UTG bets $1.77, CO raises to $5.9, BB (Hero) calls $5.9, UTG raises to $35.36 (All-In), CO calls $19.26 (All-In), BB (Hero) calls $29.46

Turn: (Pot is $98.53, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png

River: (Pot is $98.53, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png

Showdown:
UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(One Pair, Aces)

CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
(One Pair, Nines)

BB (Hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png
(Flush, Nine high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $98.53 | Rake: $2

Winners:
BB (Hero) wins $96.53

Zadnji popravljao Bebach (29-06-2010 11:35:58)

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po mom skromnom misljenju, easy fold na flopu..ako si vec vidio flop..sreca te pomazila, ali mislim da ce ti takvi callovi odnijeti puno vise love, nego sto ce ti zaraditi..

sad molim nekog strucnijeg da to potvrdi big_smile big_smile

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@ hicpra slazem se...  vec je receno gore ovo je rezultat  smile  kak kazu u brain failu - i really fucked up this hand...va
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edit: bas me zanimao rezultat po stoveu... cak nije ni mrtva ruka ako uzmemo ove rangeove...  tongue

114,216,858  games     2.964 secs    38,534,702  games/sec

Board: 8s Tc 5c
Dead: 

          equity      win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     32.859%      32.45%     00.41%           37059901        470946.50   { 7s6s }
Hand 1:     31.074%      29.98%     01.09%           34241686       1250076.00   { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, A2o+, K6o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }
Hand 2:     36.067%      35.14%     00.93%           40133081       1061167.50   { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

Zadnji popravljao Bebach (29-06-2010 13:49:34)

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a nisam uopoce skuzio da je to rezultat ove gore ruke big_smile

da mi je bilo vidjet face likova nakon rivera..priceless

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isuse pa foldaj ovo na flopu  !    .   

hicpra napisao:

da mi je bilo vidjet face likova nakon rivera..priceless

iste ko i svima nama kad nas ribetina natkupi tongue

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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ghahahhaha kako brutalan suckout

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1. hand... villian je 26/15, AF:3, deep smo za oko 150BB... jel flop 3bet ok? preflop calling range mu definitivno nije JJ+ jer 3beta 9%...znaci sjutani konektori i pocketi... ok odigrano? Koji line uzeti ovdje jer sam imao osjećaj da imam vise manje solidnu ruku...FD + gutshot... inace 4 handed dakle sa CO rejzam

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

SB ($9.6)
BB ($44.01)
UTG (Hero) ($58.41)
BTN ($37.39)

Dealt to UTG (Hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (Hero) raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $2.05, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png
UTG (Hero) bets $1.37, BTN raises to $4, UTG (Hero) raises to $9.03, BTN raises to $36.54 (All-In), UTG (Hero) calls $27.51

Turn: (Pot is $75.13, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png

River: (Pot is $75.13, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png
(High Cards, Ace King high)

Zadnji popravljao Bebach (28-07-2010 17:36:59)

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po mom misljenju, sve ok odigrano

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dakle vilian je standardan TAG 20/17 AF:2,4... 3bet normalan oko 4.5... dakle sto je ispravno uraditi ovdje... kasnije metnem rezultat

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BTN ($25.66)
SB ($23.85)
BB ($25.35)
UTG (Hero) ($48.12)
CO ($24.65)

Dealt to UTG (Hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (Hero) raises to $0.85, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.6

Flop: (Pot is $1.8, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png
BB checks, UTG (Hero) bets $1.35, BB raises to $4, UTG (Hero) calls $2.65

Turn: (Pot is $9.8, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png
BB checks, UTG (Hero) bets $5.25, BB raises to $20.5 (All-In), UTG (Hero) calls $15.25

River: (Pot is $50.8, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png

                                                                     
Total Pot: $50.8 | Rake: $50.8




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Nikako mi se ne svidja bet na turnu.. Kad callas flop, c turn i probaj izvuc sto jeftiniji showdown.. Drawova nema, nemas razloga betat... Nakon njegovog shova bi foldo, line mu je cudan, al mislim da ne blefa tu..

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Ja bi možda čak shove na flopu, ovako turn fold.

"Valjda mogu i ja jednom u zivotu svaki dan biti pijan"
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Ne kužim zakaj betaš turn, ak misliš da imaš value zakaj onda nisi reraiseal flop, uglavnom brijem da on ovdje ima 90% set

Ak nebi stack ofal na flopu onda bi čekiral turn za pot kontrol, pa bi dalje videl, a i da ima TT, JJ ili slowplajane QQ dal bi shoveal na turnu?

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mislis li da on chekira  prema meni set na turnu?

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kazem da mu je line cudan, al je problem sto ti betom nista ne dobivas.. Board nije drawy, a value ces tesko izvuc ako te bluff rejzo na flopu.

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hm da razmisljao sam o betu... ako ima air trebao bi foldati, ali opet ako ima set ne chekira to na turnu skoro nikad prema meni... pa sam se ipak odlicio za half pot bet jer ipak mislim da sam ispred njega, a imao sam i osjecaj da blefa posto je to fancy na dry boardovima... nakon sto je shoveao nisam bio siguran u nista  neutral
-sad vidim da je i 3bet na flopu ok, ako shova mogu foldat i manje muke bi bilo  cool

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3bet/fold na flopu je odvratan.

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Inace evo handa...lik je cak i imao  podosta equitiya...

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BTN ($25.66)
SB ($23.85)
BB ($25.35)
UTG (hERo) ($48.12)
CO ($24.65)

Dealt to UTG (hERo)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (hERo) raises to $0.85, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.6

Flop: (Pot is $1.8, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png
BB checks, UTG (hERo) bets $1.35, BB raises to $4, UTG (hERo) calls $2.65

Turn: (Pot is $9.8, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png
BB checks, UTG (hERo) bets $5.25, BB raises to $20.5 (All-In), UTG (hERo) calls $15.25

River: (Pot is $50.8, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png

Showdown:
BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
(One Pair, Sevens)

UTG (hERo) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png
(One Pair, Aces)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $50.8 | Rake: $2.54

Winners:
UTG (hERo) wins $48.26




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Tilt napisao:

3bet/fold na flopu je odvratan.

zasto to mislis?

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To ti je nest kao 4bet/fold sa QQ il AK preflop.. Ako 3betas za value na flopu, onda callas kad ti zashipa. Ako mislis da nisi dobar onda odmah foldas kad te rejza. Ako nisi siguran ok je callat u poziciji pa vidit sta ce bit kasnije. A 3bet "da vidis di si" je jako skup i neisplativ.

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Hm da imas pravo nesto sam zabrijao  big_smile Nekak imam fobije od AA i KK na flopovima kad zashipam (skoro uvijek gledam setove  lol ) Mislim da sam sveukupno dobro odigrao ovaj hand... jedino sto je turn mogao biti bez mog beta, ali opet ne mislim da je ogromna greska prosto zato jer je  momak chekirao turn...

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Imas pravo  lol  lol  Na drawy boardovima mislim da je uvijek ok zashipa..

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

SB ($150.25)
BB ($94.65)
UTG (Turcin) ($182.8)
MP ($36.5)
CO ($128.25)
BTN ($108.8)

Dealt to UTG (Turcin)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG (Turcin) raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, BTN calls $3, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $10.5, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png
UTG (Turcin) bets $7.5, CO raises to $19, BTN folds, UTG (Turcin) raises to $179.8 (All-In), CO calls $106.25 (All-In)

Turn: (Pot is $315.55, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png

River: (Pot is $315.55, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png

Showdown:
UTG (Turcin) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Tens)

CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
(Full House, Eights over Tens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $315.55 | Rake: $3

Winners:
UTG (Turcin) wins $54.55
CO wins $258




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