Tema: river fuck

priznajem naivno sam napravio all in, mozda sam trebao cekati da ovaj sa 1830 cipova ispadne prije mene, ali svejedno koja nesreca

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Full Tilt Poker, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t100
Big Blind: t200

SB (t1830)
BB (pepsic07) (t3345)
BTN (t3825)

BB (pepsic07) has M value 11.15

Dealt to BB (pepsic07)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t300)

BTN calls t200, SB folds, BB (pepsic07) raises to t3345 (All-In), BTN calls t3145

Flop: (Pot is t6790, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png

Turn: (Pot is t6790, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png

River: (Pot is t6790, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png

Showdown:
BB (pepsic07) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png
(Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png
(Three of a Kind, Jacks)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t6790

Winners:
BTN wins t6790

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Re: river fuck

Ne mozes zaliti za ovim,ovo si dobro odigrao pogotovo sto je to vjerojatno 5 dollar sng i na tim limitima nikad u zivotu nemoj da foldas AK preflop

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Re: river fuck

najzanimljivije je to sto jedan tren gubis, sljedeci tren dobivas, a tren kasnije si izgubio big_smile

meni je i 5 dolara puno jer mi je bankroll takav kakav je, a ovo je bilo u bubbleu,  prva 2 ITM

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Re: river fuck

Ovakvih situacija ima desetak na dan...moraš naučiti to prihvatiti i ne tiltati zbog toga.
Sve je odigrano standard, dobro si gurnuo. Ne možeš čekati da treći ispadne jer nema tako mali stack, AK 3handed je monster.

assumption is the mother of all f ups

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Re: river fuck

evo jednog handa da popravi raspoloženje lol (al meni ne protivniku lol )

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Full Tilt Poker, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t15
Big Blind: t30

SB (t1110)
BB (pepsic07) (t1890)

BB (pepsic07) has M value 42

Dealt to BB (pepsic07)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t45)

BB (pepsic07) raises to t60, SB calls t30

Flop: (Pot is t105, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png
SB checks, BB (pepsic07) bets t120, SB raises to t240, BB (pepsic07) raises to t1830 (All-In), SB calls t810,

Turn: (Pot is t2205, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

River: (Pot is t2205, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png

Showdown:
SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png
(Straight, Ace high)

BB (pepsic07) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png
(Full House, Jacks over Aces)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t2205

Winners:
BB (pepsic07) wins t2220

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Re: river fuck

treba imat i srece nekad wink

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Full Tilt Poker, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t20
Big Blind: t40

BB (t1020)
SB (pepsic07) (t1980)

SB (pepsic07) has M value 33

Dealt to SB (pepsic07)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t60)

BB calls t20, SB (pepsic07) checks

Flop: (Pot is t80, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png
SB (pepsic07) bets t80, BB raises to t160, SB (pepsic07) calls t80

Turn: (Pot is t400, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png
SB (pepsic07) checks, BB bets t400, SB (pepsic07) raises to t1780, BB calls t420 (All-In),

River: (Pot is t2040, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png

Showdown:
BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png
(One Pair, Nines)

SB (pepsic07) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png
(Straight, Ten high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t2040

Winners:
SB (pepsic07) wins t2040

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Re: river fuck

jedan friški

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Full Tilt Poker, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t60
Big Blind: t120

MP (t1370)
CO (t3270)
BTN (pepsic07) (t4370)
SB (t1215)
BB (t2360)
UTG (t915)

BTN (pepsic07) has M value 24.28

Dealt to BTN (pepsic07)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t180)

UTG raises to t915 (All-In), MP & CO fold, BTN (pepsic07) calls t915, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is t2010, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Turn: (Pot is t2010, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png

River: (Pot is t2010, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png

Showdown:
BTN (pepsic07) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png
(One Pair, Jacks)

UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png
(Flush, Ace high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t2010

Winners:
UTG wins t2010

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Re: river fuck

U zadnja 4 dana sam odigrao preko 17k handova od cega 11,3k SNG-a i 6k casha
Već sam lud od pokera i onda mi se još ovo desi mad
Uzimam dulju pauzu da odmorim živce

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BTN ($144.65)
SB ($55.25)
BB ($197.5)
UTG (6ani) ($128.6)

Dealt to UTG (6ani)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG (6ani) raises to $5, BTN & SB fold, BB calls $4

Flop: (Pot is $10.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
BB checks, UTG (6ani) bets $10, BB raises to $30, UTG (6ani) raises to $123.6 (All-In), BB calls $93.6

Turn: (Pot is $257.7, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png

River: (Pot is $257.7, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png

Showdown:
BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png
(Full House, Sixes over Threes)

UTG (6ani) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png
(Flush, Ace high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $257.7 | Rake: $2

Winners:
BB wins $255.7

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Re: river fuck

Board: 4h 6h Th
Dead: 

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     28.283%      28.28%     00.00%                280             0.00   { AhJd }
Hand 1:     71.717%      71.72%     00.00%                710             0.00   { 6c6d }

Malo su se dramaticno poslozile karte ali bolji hand je na kraju dobio.

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Re: river fuck

Ovo je tak normalno...jedino ti je vjerojatno žao love ali tip te imao cijelo vrijeme osim na turnu. Nemaš baš oddove da se žališ lol
Šta bi napravio da ti se desi kao meni jučer da lik limpa TT s kasne pozicije, a ja u BB chekiram svoje bijedne Q2,
flop dolazi Q Q 2, ja bet, or raise, ja push, on naravno call - a turn T i river T hmm

assumption is the mother of all f ups

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Re: river fuck

@ Pepsi
Meni se ne sviđa tvoj all-in nakon cr-a na flopu. Call-aš, pogledaš turn, on je na potezu, pa nakon toga odlučiš. Barem bi ja tako...

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Re: river fuck

Bad play na flopu, uvijek si behind kad zguraš tu. I ovaj hand ne spada u bad beat forum. Imao si samo 28% i zasluženo izgubio.

Prijavi se na PokerPro Coaching
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Re: river fuck

All in bilo kad protiv bilo koga.

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Re: river fuck

Ustvari ne protiv bilo koga,ako ovaj nikad ne check raisa light ili air onda ipak fold.Call nebi nikad odigrao.

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Re: river fuck

Na flopu sam napravio all in jer me nije previse zabrinjavalo što on ima (jer cak i ako ima set dobivam ga flushem , a i cesto se 3 betalo tak da nisam ni pretpostavio da bi mogao imati nutse na flopu)
Pokušao sam semi bluffom uzeti pot a ako mi ne uspije imam dobre šanse da uzmem
pot flushem ili mozda top pairom ukoliko ovaj ima npr KK
Ovaj lik je po meni sretno dobio pot i zato sam hand stavio ovdje (slobodno prebacite u moju temu u podforumu analiza handova)
Iako je imao set , nije cak ni imao jednog herca u ruci. Što je mislio da ga betam sa parom kad se nije bojao flusha ?

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pepsi07 napisao:

Na flopu sam napravio all in jer me nije previse zabrinjavalo što on ima (jer cak i ako ima set dobivam ga flushem , a i cesto se 3 betalo tak da nisam ni pretpostavio da bi mogao imati nutse na flopu)
Pokušao sam semi bluffom uzeti pot a ako mi ne uspije imam dobre šanse da uzmem
pot flushem ili mozda top pairom ukoliko ovaj ima npr KK
Ovaj lik je po meni sretno dobio pot i zato sam hand stavio ovdje (slobodno prebacite u moju temu u podforumu analiza handova)
Iako je imao set , nije cak ni imao jednog herca u ruci. Što je mislio da ga betam sa parom kad se nije bojao flusha ?

wow...
puno toga si napisao...tebi je jasno da dolaze samo 2 karte i da ti dobiješ flush je manja vjerojatnost, da bi u tom slučaju TI sretno dobio pot. Zašto bi se on bojao herca? pa ima set, vjerojatnost da ti flopaš flush je ultra mala, a i da si flopao on ne može foldat set, barem ne na flopu. Tebi je jasno da si dao cijeli stack na draw i dvije overkarte i to nije baš super play

assumption is the mother of all f ups

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Re: river fuck

ok, a sto sam trebao ? callat ?
i onda na turnu herc, i sta onda ?  mislis da na kraju ne bi sve zavrsilo u potu ?

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Da, bilo bi bolje i vjerojatno bi ti foldao, jedino ako mu se kocka s 100$ da ide hvatat full jer bi bilo jasno da na tvoj push imaš flush

assumption is the mother of all f ups

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Re: river fuck

wildgh napisao:

Da, bilo bi bolje i vjerojatno bi ti foldao, jedino ako mu se kocka s 100$ da ide hvatat full jer bi bilo jasno da na tvoj push imaš flush

Upravo tako. Vjerojatno bi chek-nio i nakon tvog allina ili šta već foldao.

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wildgh napisao:

Da, bilo bi bolje i vjerojatno bi ti foldao, jedino ako mu se kocka s 100$ da ide hvatat full jer bi bilo jasno da na tvoj push imaš flush

I evo zasto je jedini play ovdje shove all in.Foldat ne mozes a ako callas protivnik ima laganini odluku na turnu.Call je presmijesan jer skroz otkriva tvoj hand protivniku.Zapitajte se kako bi vrhunski igraci odigrali ovaj hand.95% njih ce reci jedini play ovdje je shove all in.

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Ponavaljam , jako se puno rejzalo i 3betalo na stolu, a njemu se baš poklopilo da flopa set
Da je on bio tight onda bi razmislio što da radim na njegov rejz (najvjerojatnije bi foldao),  ali igrala se loose igra i ispalo je tako kako je.

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pepsi07 napisao:

Ponavaljam , jako se puno rejzalo i 3betalo na stolu, a njemu se baš poklopilo da flopa set
Da je on bio tight onda bi razmislio što da radim na njegov rejz (najvjerojatnije bi foldao),  ali igrala se loose igra i ispalo je tako kako je.

Šta ti misliš da bi ti netko foldao set??? Neznam kakav bi to tighter trebao biti big_smile
Jedina ruka koja ga crusha je TT, čak i za flopani flush ima dosta outova, tko ti to folda nema pojma.
U principu nije ni toliko bitno, nije ni push tako loš play, ali treba znati da si u većini slučajeva behind i da treba pogoditi draw.
Gore je tvoje "da mu se posrećilo" koje nema nikakve osnove i logike. Mogu ti pokazati u zadnja 3 dana 50 takvih situacija, od kojih je većina pravih bad beatova, a ne ovo.

assumption is the mother of all f ups

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Re: river fuck

Ja cak ni ne mislim da je toliko behind protiv njegovog rangea.Ok ako ima set tu smo negdje 60/40 underdog,u dosta situacija ima FE a u dosta situacija je coin flip ili favorit kada protivnik ima nekih K10 sa Kh ili cak i Q10 cak nekad i A10.Protiv jako losih i jako dobrih igraca ovo je shove.Protiv solidnog igraca ovo je 70-30 u stranu shove.Call u sve i jednoj situaciji je 0%.

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Re: river fuck

ne mislim da bi itko ovdje na flopu foldao set, ali daj procitaj sta sam napisao
da je bio tight onda bi vjerojatno foldao na njegov rejz jer bi bio gotovo 100% siguran da ima set, ali buduci da je igrao loose nisam mislio da ima set, a cak da ga je i dobio ja imam ok oddove da uhvatim flush

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Re: river fuck

@croman19 nemoj govoriti šta bi vrhunski igrači ovdje napravili jer ovo nije nl10000 ili neki live play "vrhunskih igrača"
s čim bi raisao ovaj? s A10, JJ, QQ bi preflop. I još nešto, fold da ne dolazi u obzir? Po kojoj logici?

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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