Tema: Call ili fold?

ima state 18/3 na 50 ruku

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t25
Big Blind: t50

CO (t1433)
BTN (t2485)
SB (t2130)
BB (t1572)
UTG (t4335)
MP (Hero) (t1545)

MP (Hero) has M value 20.6

Dealt to MP (Hero)
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Preflop: (Pot is: t75)

UTG folds, MP (Hero) raises to t200, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls t150

Flop: (Pot is t425, 2 players)

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BB checks, MP (Hero) bets t250, BB calls t250

Turn: (Pot is t925, 2 players)

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BB bets t300, MP (Hero) calls t300

River: (Pot is t1525, 2 players)

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BB bets t822 (All-In)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t2347 | Rake: t2347

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Re: Call ili fold?

baš čudan hand

line mu repa 8x, al ne kužim od kud mu to s tim statsima, brijem da JJ ne bi tak odigral a niti FD, pogotovo s shoveom na blank river

Je sposoban za veliki bluff?

Nemam pojma, makar može biti neki slowplayani monster AA/KK/QQ, to bi imalo smisla, pogotovo ak je loš.

napiši na kraju kaj je bilo, zanima me

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Re: Call ili fold?

Ja bi callal. Imaš ok oddove... smile

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Re: Call ili fold?

gledam neke druge handove al si mislim i o ovome i brijem da je naš hand ovijde bluff catcher, jer jedino beatomo 99,

znači ja bi calao ako mislim da je lik sposoban tu blefati, a ako mislim da ne naravno foldo bi, ovak ko će ga znat

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Re: Call ili fold?

nekak mi se čini da si beatan, baš zbog ovog njegovog mini beta na turnu i onda shipa na riveru ( izgleda ko navlakuša ). A8 mi je nekak njegov najočigledniji hand. pre flop očito nije agresivan. kakav je post flop ? to bi dosta pomoglo. Ako je agresivan post flop onda bi callao, a ako je pasivan, onda bi foldo

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Re: Call ili fold?

Možda ima neki random par tipa 55 pa očekuje call s A high  hmm

Tko se moli i vjeruje u Isusa Krista, Isus će ga dočekati na času njegove smrti
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Re: Call ili fold?

Rexonja napisao:

Možda ima neki random par tipa 55 pa očekuje call s A high  hmm

da i meni se ovo cini. ne vidim zas bi donko na drugu osmicu ak ju ima

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Re: Call ili fold?

Mozda je donkao da napravi pot u kojeg ce lako gurnit na riveru, ostalo mu je oko 1100 a pot je 925, ako i on i mi checkiramo na turnu tesko ce na riveru dobit call na shove.. mislim da je A8 manje vjerojatno tako da bi mogao biti JJ+

But they were suited...
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Re: Call ili fold?

Brky napisao:
Rexonja napisao:

Možda ima neki random par tipa 55 pa očekuje call s A high  hmm

da i meni se ovo cini. ne vidim zas bi donko na drugu osmicu ak ju ima

zašto ne bi?

Pot na turnu je 925. Obojici je ostalo oko 1100 behind.
Villain od nas tu očekuje da ćemo dosta puta checkirati turn (što je i istina).

On na turnu beta 300 u 925 i očekuje da mi shovamo s FD-om i želi da mi mislimo da imamo fold equitya (kojeg očito nemamo).
Mislim da bi ovakav line uzeo i s manjim pocket parovima (petice i ostalo), ali i sa osmicom.

EDIT: baljezgam gluposti, ukratko: Call  smile

Zadnji popravljao Rexonja (16-08-2010 21:29:16)

Tko se moli i vjeruje u Isusa Krista, Isus će ga dočekati na času njegove smrti
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Re: Call ili fold?

tu bi trebalo vec na turnu znati kaj bus napravil na riveru kad tu idu all in skoro uvijek, mislim da je na turnu najbolje foldati, cak bi prije tu zgural nego callal
tak kak je  river bi callal jer dosta put bu imal zrak

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Re: Call ili fold?

premo napisao:

tu bi trebalo vec na turnu znati kaj bus napravil na riveru kad tu idu all in skoro uvijek, mislim da je na turnu najbolje foldati, cak bi prije tu zgural nego callal
tak kak je  river bi callal jer dosta put bu imal zrak

turn gotovo uvjek foldam, svima osim tebi tongue

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Re: Call ili fold?

u večini slučaja to foldam već turn, jer likovi koji imaju nešt  tipa 40/15 uvjek brane bb s svime i uvjek ulove neko takvo sranje, svaki dan mi tak neko sjebe AA ili KK, ja raise neko me call dojde flop 338 ja zguram i riba naravno ima 3, ali ovaj je imal jebeno tight stace iako je mali primjer odlučim sam callat, jedino kaj ima smisla je A8s, ali na svu sreću nije imal

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t25
Big Blind: t50

CO (t1433)
BTN (t2485)
SB (t2130)
BB (t1572)
UTG (t4335)
MP (Kukoc69) (t1545)

MP (Kukoc69) has M value 20.6

Dealt to MP (Kukoc69)
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Preflop: (Pot is: t75)

UTG folds, MP (Kukoc69) raises to t200, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls t150

Flop: (Pot is t425, 2 players)

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BB checks, MP (Kukoc69) bets t250, BB calls t250

Turn: (Pot is t925, 2 players)

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BB bets t300, MP (Kukoc69) calls t300

River: (Pot is t1525, 2 players)

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BB bets t822 (All-In), MP (Kukoc69) calls t795 (All-In),

Showdown:
BB shows
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(Two Pair, Eights and Threes)

MP (Kukoc69) shows
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(Two Pair, Tens and Eights)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t3115

Winners:
MP (Kukoc69) wins t3115

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