Re: What to do? NL100

AT, problem je tu da on tako ludo ne rejza A2, A4. stackoff, pokazao mi je 44

AK, možda bi bolje bilo da čekiramo jer folda skoro sve slabije, a calla nas samo malo toga, neki A. Pa nek proba blefati. betao sam pola pota, pokazao mi je flush

77- callao sam, budući da je 3way i izgledalo je ok. pokazao je KK

JJ- shovao sam, pokazao mi 78

AK- budući da ima tako mali 3bet i OOP sam, foldao sam teška srca. Kasnije mu se 3bet povečao na 5% tongue

Nije da sam postao handove jer sam ih sve izgubio nego samo da vidim u čemu griješim. Jer sam shvatio da kad postam handove da mi ljudi nalaze greške koje opće ne vidim. Thnx na odgovorima.

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Re: What to do? NL100

jebat ga mislim da je vecina ovog cooler

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Re: What to do? NL100

28/23 AF:3.3 3bet: 9.6 fold vs cbet: 50%
Ovaj hand me jednostavno zbunio, mislio sam da će me na turnu i riveru callati s nekim malim parom, nisam razmišljao da sam na UTGu i da me možda ne 3beta s JJ i TT pa sam to eliminirao i betao sam za value big_smile
E sad, da ste na mojoj poziciji, koji play bi bio dobar na flopu i turnu. Nevezano na to da sam ja tako donkasto odigrao.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

CO ($225.3)
BTN ($298.95)
SB ($55.5)
BB ($97.5)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) ($147.45)

Dealt to UTG (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG (RearAdmiral_) raises to $4, CO calls $4, BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $9.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png
UTG (RearAdmiral_) checks, CO bets $7, UTG (RearAdmiral_) raises to $20, CO calls $13

Turn: (Pot is $49.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png
UTG (RearAdmiral_) bets $13, CO calls $13

River: (Pot is $75.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png
UTG (RearAdmiral_) bets $22, CO calls $22

Showdown:
CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png
(Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)

UTG (RearAdmiral_) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png
(Two Pair, Nines and Fives)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $119.5 | Rake: $3

Winners:
CO wins $116.5




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Re: What to do? NL100

32/15 AF: 0.9 glavni negativac
20/18 AF 6.7 prvi put donk beta ---sporedni negativac
Da li bi heroj betao na riveru? Da li bi kaj drugačije odigrali?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

UTG ($93)
CO ($37.1)
BTN ($98.5)
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($121.3)
BB ($127.75)

Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG raises to $3.5, CO & BTN fold, SB (RearAdmiral_) calls $3, BB calls $2.5

Flop: (Pot is $10.5, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BB bets $8, UTG calls $8, SB (RearAdmiral_) calls $8

Turn: (Pot is $34.5, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BB checks, UTG bets $14, SB (RearAdmiral_) calls $14, BB folds

River: (Pot is $62.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png

                                                                     
Total Pot: $62.5 | Rake: $62.5




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Re: What to do? NL100

Sad su samo 3 handa big_smile nadam se da nije previše tongue
24/21
AF: 3.3 
cbet: 73%
Blef river? Trebao sam nastaviti na turnu?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

UTG ($135.5)
BTN ($298.2)
SB ($112.9)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($98)

Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG raises to $3, BTN & SB fold, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $2

Flop: (Pot is $6.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, UTG bets $5, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $14, UTG calls $9

Turn: (Pot is $34.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, UTG checks

River: (Pot is $34.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) bets $26

                                                                     
Total Pot: $60.5 | Rake: $60.5




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Re: What to do? NL100

98s
Od kojih handova očekuješ tu value kad c/r flop? Što da te 3betao?
Flop možeš c/c ili bet fold. Za druge playeve treba imati read.

99
ja bi rejzao turn do oko 35$
Ovako river check.

KJo
Problem s ovim handom je da ak te calla si uvijek behind. Callat će te ili s jačim handom (obv) ili s A :card_club (koji je opet jači hand, ali bi ga se dalo zblefati).
Mislim da je ok rejz na flopu, ali bi trebalo odustati ako te calla.

River nikako bet jer mu je A :card_club velik dio range-a.

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Re: What to do? NL100

89 mi je bio problem hand jer sam se bojao da ako padne J+ da ne znam da li foldam ili callam na njegovu moguću agresiju pa sam odlučio raisat da po mogućnosti uzmem pot. Problem je bio što nisam imao plan ako me calla pa sam zato tako odigrao dalje.
Problem mi je što ako ima overcarde mi je to teško odigrati, a ne mogu uvijek cbetati.

99-- Imao je KQ i zbunilo me kad je checkirao behind.

KJo-- računao sam da AQ  raisa na turnu, jer bi ja recimo raisao na turnu da se zaštitim od drawa. A s obzirom da me nije, odlučio sam blefati, ipak, možda bi tu bilo dobro overbet pot, jer jedino s čim me onda može callati je A :card_club  jer bi on pretpostavio da ne slowplayam flush koji nije nuts.

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Re: What to do? NL100

21/16 AF: 3.6
3bet: 7.8
donk bet: 2/6 (33%)
Note: 3betan pot, cbet flop, C/r na turnu na Khigh pa fold na AI

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BTN ($330.7)
SB ($90.5)
BB ($102)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) ($103)

Dealt to UTG (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG (RearAdmiral_) raises to $4, BTN folds, SB calls $3.5, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $9, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png
SB bets $7, UTG (RearAdmiral_) calls $7

Turn: (Pot is $23, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png
SB bets $17.5, UTG (RearAdmiral_) calls $17.5

River: (Pot is $58, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png
SB bets $62 (All-In)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $120 | Rake: $120




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Re: What to do? NL100

27/20 AF: 2.5
3bet: 5.5
Raise cbet: 25%
f to cbet: 25%
Raise flop?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

SB ($364.55)
BB ($109.35)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) ($231.3)
CO ($227.7)
BTN ($112.5)

Dealt to UTG (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG (RearAdmiral_) raises to $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $9.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png
UTG (RearAdmiral_) bets $7, BTN raises to $21

Turn: (Pot is $37.5, 2 players)


River: (Pot is $37.5, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $37.5 | Rake: $37.5




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Re: What to do? NL100

AJ- ja  bi foldo ,ovo mi zgleda  ko da  ima boju i nada  s  da imas  jakog A
KJ-rejz do 50 call shove,pretpostavljam da  si naletio na set  i da  je  zato hand  postan big_smile

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: What to do? NL100

tongue reći ću rješenja kad dobim više odgovora smile

Zadnji popravljao Rear_Admiral (31-10-2010 20:02:25)

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Re: What to do? NL100

1. hand fold. On tu jako rijetko ima air kad donka i beta 3 streeta, a sve što je mogao imati je jače od tebe pošto je flush došao.

2. par + FD je standard shove.

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Re: What to do? NL100

1. po noteu izgleda kao da se voli glupirat, al bi foldao river

2. za 100bb ovo ide nutra, da ste deep callao bi samo

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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Re: What to do? NL100

1. fold turn.

2. ship

EDIT

Zadnji popravljao chillin (01-11-2010 05:41:44)

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: What to do? NL100

Ja bi rađe u drugom handu CRAI turn, jer mu ostavljam mjesto za blef.
Ako chekira, check callamo river, ili CRAI ako pogodimo flush.
Ne vidim zašto već na flopu jamati.

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Re: What to do? NL100

Rear_Admiral napisao:

Ja bi rađe u drugom handu CRAI turn, jer mu ostavljam mjesto za blef.
Ako chekira, check callamo river, ili CRAI ako pogodimo flush.
Ne vidim zašto već na flopu jamati.

Vidiš, nisam vidio tu opciju. Svidja mi se... Od sad tako igram TP FD OOP.

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Re: What to do? NL100

Hmmm, trebalo bi još malo provjeriti moju teoriju. Nije da si ne vjerujem nego možda sam što previdio. Tipa to da ako se zguramo na turnu imamo manje equitija protiv jačih made handova.

Zadnji popravljao Rear_Admiral (01-11-2010 12:29:37)

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Re: What to do? NL100

Rear_Admiral napisao:

zguramo na turnu imamo manje equitija protiv jačih made handova

Ili više? (ako nam dodje flush)

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Re: What to do? NL100

Rear_Admiral napisao:

Ja bi rađe u drugom handu CRAI turn, jer mu ostavljam mjesto za blef.
Ako chekira, check callamo river, ili CRAI ako pogodimo flush.
Ne vidim zašto već na flopu jamati.

ako mu ostavljas mjesta za blef onda i turn c/C, nije da ce te callat sa zrakom

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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Re: What to do? NL100

milac napisao:

ako mu ostavljas mjesta za blef onda i turn c/C, nije da ce te callat sa zrakom

milac napisao:

ako mu ostavljas mjesta za blef onda i turn c/C, nije da ce te callat sa zrakom

Ja nebi to jer onda na riveru imaš tešku odluku ak te zgura. Ovako je dosta love u potu i ja sam zadovoljan ako pokupim pot. A i imaš neki equity ako te calla s jačim.

I pitanje je kolko će betati na turnu.

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Re: What to do? NL100

pa nije neka teska odluka ako mislis da ce vecinu vremena blefat, onda imas ez call. ionak ce imat nest sitno equitya kad blefa

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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Re: What to do? NL100

Rear_Admiral napisao:

CRAI turn

Glupo pitanje ali što to znači?

Potpis.
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Re: What to do? NL100

check raise all in

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Re: What to do? NL100

roba59 napisao:
Rear_Admiral napisao:

zguramo na turnu imamo manje equitija protiv jačih made handova

Ili više? (ako nam dodje flush)

Ako dođe flush onda će jače handove čekirati. Treba to malo proanalizirati, ali trenutno ne stignem.

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Re: What to do? NL100

Rear_Admiral napisao:

Ako dođe flush onda će jače handove čekirati.

Neće tak često čekirati. Betat će setove i 2 para u 90% slučajeva. Ionako mi ne prezentiramo FD kad smo samo callali. A ako on blefa, ovdje mora nastaviti jer on prezentira FD.

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