Tema: NL 50 - Bebach

Eto proslo je dosta dugo od zadnjeg handa kojeg sam postao pa bi bilo i vrijeme  nesto staviti na forum  smile

1. hand, negdje na pocetku sesna gdje nisam znao previse o njemu, kasnije skupio  750 handova (18/15, 3bet:7.7, AF: 2.8)

Flop ok? turn call? Necu pisat svoj misaoni proces jer me zanimaju vasa misljenja  big_smile

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

SB ($52.42)
BB ($50.75)
UTG (HERO) ($51.75)
CO ($51.44)
BTN ($16.38)

Dealt to UTG (HERO)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG (HERO) raises to $1.75, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls $1.25

Flop: (Pot is $3.75, 2 players)

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BB checks, UTG (HERO) bets $2.65, BB raises to $11.7, UTG (HERO) calls $9.05

Turn: (Pot is $27.15, 2 players)

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BB raises to $37.3 (All-In)

River: (Pot is $64.45, 2 players, 1 all-in)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $64.45 | Rake: $64.45



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kad vec nisi shipo flop onda na turnu fold !

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Regular... 19/15  , 3beta oko 8% s tim da na BTN-u oko 10%,imam neki note da voli double barelat. U ovom sesnu mislim da me nije 3betao puno... Prflop? Mislim da je call najbolja opcija jer nemamo neki history gdje ocekujem neki ludi 5bet shove... flop call, range mu ostaje isti... turn??? Sto biste uradili

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

BB ($32.32)
UTG ($49.96)
CO (DEČKOVI) ($61.4)
BTN ($50.75)
SB ($49.5)

Dealt to CO (DEČKOVI)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG folds, CO (DEČKOVI) raises to $1.75, BTN raises to $6, SB & BB fold, CO (DEČKOVI) calls $4.25

Flop: (Pot is $12.75, 2 players)

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CO (DEČKOVI) checks, BTN bets $8.5, CO (DEČKOVI) calls $8.5

Turn: (Pot is $29.75, 2 players)

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CO (DEČKOVI) checks, BTN bets $19.83

River: (Pot is $49.58, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $49.58 | Rake: $49.58




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Re: NL 50 - Bebach

Calldownao bi ovo.

Pravi šubara lovac voli lov, žene i novac.
Roba, moderator ti je sramota.
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ja  bi recnuo ovo na  flopu,ako 3b 10% ima dosta brodway kombinacija s  kojim to radi  i ak callas flop pol spila ne zelis  vidjet  na  turnu..
as  played ,call do kraja mi je  najgora  opcija,na turnu ak te  ima crushanog  imat  ce te  i na  riveru koji ces  morat  isplatit kaj god  da  padne zato kaj ces  trebat  platit 16 za  80,ako zguras na  turnu on ce vjerojatno callat  sa  nekakvim A,K high FD i nadat  ce  se  da ima  over  karte  tak da  turn ili fold ili shove, jos imas note  prema  tome  po meni izi shove
zanimljiv  hand  big_smile

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Bebach napisao:

Regular... 19/15  , 3beta oko 8% s tim da na BTN-u oko 10%,imam neki note da voli double barelat. U ovom sesnu mislim da me nije 3betao puno... Prflop? Mislim da je call najbolja opcija jer nemamo neki history gdje ocekujem neki ludi 5bet shove

Call je najgora opcija IMO

MAMIĆU CIGANE ODLAZI IZ SVETINJE!!!
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prvi hand... ne znam izgleda jako tempting... mislim da bi ja call ali ni fold nije loš
drugi hand... ship turn

Just admitting you are a fish is a big step forward!
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Obojica fishevi BTN 48/9, SB 37/9... sto je po vama najbolje na turnu?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50

SB ($50.7)
BB (AKo) ($75.03)
UTG ($50.62)
CO ($54.77)
BTN ($118.87)

Dealt to BB (AKo)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)

UTG & CO fold, BTN raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, BB (AKo) raises to $8, BTN calls $6, SB calls $6

Flop: (Pot is $24, 3 players)

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SB checks, BB (AKo) bets $18, BTN folds, SB calls $18

Turn: (Pot is $60, 2 players)

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SB checks

River: (Pot is $60, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $60 | Rake: $60



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Re: NL 50 - Bebach

Prvi hand sam gore callao i zdipio boju na riveru imao je QQ.. drugi hand sa dečkovima sam foldao (nisam jos ni sad siguran dal je shove ili fold ali eto)

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ship it

Zadnji popravljao Tilt (09-12-2010 15:01:51)

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1. ship
2. ship

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KQ
Ja bi vjerojatno gurnuo na flopu... Ali mislim da je fold čak bolji. Ovaj veliki rejz nikad ne radi s 1 parom, tad da ti overkarte ništa ne znače. Ili ima FD ili 2 para +. A večina FD-ova je A high.
Turn je easy fold.

JJ
Nemoj NIKAD callati 3bet OOP bez plana. Bolje onda 4bet/call protiv agro igrača. Nema veze što ne očekuješ ludi 5bet shove. Protiv QQ+ i AK imaš 36%, a puno će ti foldati na 4bet tak da će biti to isplativo (ili barem BE, ali ćeš ga naučiti da se ne zajebava s tobom).
Ako ne očekuješ da te 3beta light onda je easy fold preflop.
OOP calaš samo ako je agro i postflop. Onda imaš easy check/call, c/c... Bez obzira o flopu.

PS: Pogledaj si Balugin video za 3betanje.

AKo
Bet na flopu mi se ne čini ko dobra opcija... Pogotovo protiv dvije ribe. Callat će te s any pair i any  :card_diamond. I onda si na turnu u ovakvoj situaciji. Imaš još oko 26$ za zgurati u 60$ pot. Tu bi te i regovi platili, a pogotovo ribe.
Išao bi na check/shove, a ako BTN ne beta imaš još dosta iza da "igraš" poker.

As played, turn check.

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Thx roba... odlicna analiza...

- btw ovaj hand sam AKo sam shovao  roll  i dobio call od AJ bez  :card_diamond

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