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Re: Za pocetak NL5

evo jos jedan mali update... presao sam malo vise od pola puta na NL5... cilj je zaradit 150$ pa preci na NL10 sa nekih 30-ak BI uz sve bonuse koje dobivam (moguce da bude cak i vise)... i dalje idem prema gore sto je dobro smile... plava linija je i dalje losa ali nije mi to ni bitno toliko dokle god je profit tu big_smile... sto se tice agresije OOP pokusavam to smanjit al izgleda da nije tako lako kako sam mislio big_smile
no da ne duljim evo vam graf ukupni, te statsi sa pozicija pa ako se nekom da neka malo to prokomentira...

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Re: Za pocetak NL5

27% prf early... 30% sb vpip yikes
mozda prolazi na nl5 ali mislim da ce te to dovodit u puno vise problema na nl25+
position iz posihun!

sexy red line

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Re: Za pocetak NL5

Andre_787 napisao:

27% prf early... 30% sb vpip yikes
mozda prolazi na nl5 ali mislim da ce te to dovodit u puno vise problema na nl25+
position iz posihun!

sexy red line

neznam dal si pratio prije projekt... rekao sam tamo negdje ranije da inace ne igram ovako... ovo je pokusaj LAG igre koja inace nije moja... inace sam ja TAG i na NL2 mi je to bilo dobro... beatao sam limit al mi je trebalo dosta vremena... pa sam odlucio pokusati sa jednom izrazenom LAG igrom da pokusam NL5 beatat sto prije i rekao sam ako ovo ne bude funkcioniralo da cu se vratit na igru koju znam igrat smile
dakle ovo je vise neki kao eksperiment pa da vidimo dokle ce me dovest big_smile
razlog je jedino to sto se ne zelim zadrzati na NL5 predugo, vec bih htio postati regular na NL10 sto je prije moguce gdje bih pokusao pronaci neku igru izmedju ovog sto sam radim i onog sto sam na NL2 igrao... imas dolje statse za pozicija sa NL2 pa mozes i to prokomentirati ako zelis smile


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a sto se tice VPIP u sb-u, to je samo zbog PFR-a u sb-u tako tongue

Zadnji popravljao kriss (12-03-2011 02:02:40)

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Re: Za pocetak NL5

evo nastavka... graf i pozicije zasad, dakle jos nekih 50-ak $ zarade kad bude pokusat cu na NL10...


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Zadnji popravljao kriss (14-03-2011 04:34:57)

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Re: Za pocetak NL5

evo jos jedan mali update, da ljudi ne pomisle da postam samo kad me ide... trenutno sam upao u takvu crnu zonu da je to strasno... natkupljuju me ribe redovno i blue line ide u totalno krivom smjeru iako ne bi teoretski trebala... zanima me jel bi trebo sta mjenjat sto se igre tice ili je to samo nekakva "nesretna" faza u kojoj sam trenutno  neutral ... sve u svemu zadnja 3 dana su pakleno losa sto se tice casha (nije ni na turnirima puno bolje) pa evo slika smile


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Re: Za pocetak NL5

cim se pomiris s cinjenicom da i riba moze imat hand, krenut ce ti i plava linija gore..pod uvjetom da se drzis svoje igre i prestanes callati betove kada znas da si beatan..

takoder sam odigrao malo preko 25k handova na ovom limitu i znam kakvih sve pacijenata ima tu..

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hicpra napisao:

cim se pomiris s cinjenicom da i riba moze imat hand, krenut ce ti i plava linija gore..pod uvjetom da se drzis svoje igre i prestanes callati betove kada znas da si beatan..

takoder sam odigrao malo preko 25k handova na ovom limitu i znam kakvih sve pacijenata ima tu..

trenutno ta plava uporno bjezi od ove EV linije i samo se nadam ce to uskoro zavrsit pa da mogu nastaviti prema gore smile... ali slazem se s tobom da moram priznati da nekad riba ipak ima hand big_smile... btw, danas sam sa KK 4 puta i sa QQ 2 puta naletio na AA... ni jednom nisam uspio suckoutat...

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Re: Za pocetak NL5

Plava linija ti je katastrofa. Moraš se potrudit i popravit to. Value Value Value. Plaćat će te sa 3. parom sva 3 streeta, većina igrača na NL5 je užaš i overplaya više manje sve tipove hendova. Nemoj se zamarat svojim statsima uopće. To što igraš 30/28 te ne čini LAG-om niti te 20/18 čini TAG-om. Graf je ok, ali moraš više dobivat na showdownu i ako uz to još uspiješ imat crvenu u plusu bit će perfektno, al nemoj se zamarat tolko s tom crvenom.

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-b3k's- napisao:

Plava linija ti je katastrofa. Moraš se potrudit i popravit to. Value Value Value. Plaćat će te sa 3. parom sva 3 streeta, većina igrača na NL5 je užaš i overplaya više manje sve tipove hendova. Nemoj se zamarat svojim statsima uopće. To što igraš 30/28 te ne čini LAG-om niti te 20/18 čini TAG-om. Graf je ok, ali moraš više dobivat na showdownu i ako uz to još uspiješ imat crvenu u plusu bit će perfektno, al nemoj se zamarat tolko s tom crvenom.

pokusat cu smile
hvala na komentaru...

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evo ovako... odlucio sam snimit jedan session sinoc... session traje nekih 45 min... volio bih kad bi neki igraci koji su kompetentni odnosno oni koji se takvima osjecaju malo prokomentirali sta valja, a sta ne u toj mojoj igri... stavio sam video i na megaupolad pa ako je neko voljan moze ga skinuti i snimiti svoj glas preko videa i tamo reci sta mu se svidja kako sam odgirao a sta ne... nisam snimao svoj glas i svoje komentare pa tak da ako vas nesto zanima zasto sam tako odigrao, mozete slobodno pitati u topicu... odigrao sam 8 stolova na NL5, malo manje od 600 handova... mislim da ima zanimljivih handova pa eto... ja se nadam bar nekakvom odazivu sto se tice tog mog videa smile...

unaprijed hvala!


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Re: Za pocetak NL5

evo par handova sa ovog zadnjeg sessiona...

1. hand
villiana imam na samo 12 handova: 45/0/3.5
sta u takvim situacijama, cesto se nadjem u takvim situacijama... dali se tu isplati callati???

2. hand
24 handa: 64/36/1.0

3. hand
63 handa: 58/20/12.5

4. hand
136 handova: 36/7/12.7
raise vs. cbet: 60 i fold na cbet: 40

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

UTG ($6.23)
MP ($2.98)
CO ($2.39)
BTN ($3.52)
SB (kriss1991) ($5)
BB ($4)

Dealt to SB (kriss1991)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG calls $0.05, MP folds, CO calls $0.05, BTN calls $0.05, SB (kriss1991) calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: (Pot is $0.25, 5 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png
SB (kriss1991) bets $0.15, BB folds, UTG calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN folds

Turn: (Pot is $0.7, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png
SB (kriss1991) bets $0.45, UTG calls $0.45, CO folds

River: (Pot is $1.6, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png
SB (kriss1991) checks, UTG bets $2, SB (kriss1991) calls $2

Showdown:
UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png
(Four of a Kind, Fives)

SB (kriss1991) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png
(Full House, Fives over Tens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $5.6 | Rake: $0.27

Winners:
UTG wins $5.33




PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

SB ($6.54)
BB (kriss1991) ($8.16)
UTG ($7.5)
MP ($4.96)
CO ($3.36)
BTN ($4.97)

Dealt to BB (kriss1991)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG calls $0.05, MP & CO & BTN fold, SB calls $0.03, BB (kriss1991) checks

Flop: (Pot is $0.15, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
SB checks, BB (kriss1991) bets $0.1, UTG calls $0.1, SB folds

Turn: (Pot is $0.35, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png
BB (kriss1991) bets $0.25, UTG calls $0.25

River: (Pot is $0.85, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png
BB (kriss1991) bets $0.5, UTG raises to $1, BB (kriss1991) calls $0.5

Showdown:
BB (kriss1991) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Tens)

UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
(Straight, Queen high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $2.85 | Rake: $0.14

Winners:
UTG wins $2.71




PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

UTG ($0.87)
CO ($4)
BTN ($2.1)
SB (kriss1991) ($6.5)
BB ($12.4)

Dealt to SB (kriss1991)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG raises to $0.1, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, SB (kriss1991) calls $0.08, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $0.3, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png
SB (kriss1991) bets $0.2, UTG raises to $0.77 (All-In), CO folds, SB (kriss1991) calls $0.57

Turn: (Pot is $1.84, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png

River: (Pot is $1.84, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png

Showdown:
UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(Three of a Kind, Tens)

SB (kriss1991) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png
(Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $1.84 | Rake: $0.09

Winners:
UTG wins $1.8




PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

UTG ($0.87)
CO ($4)
BTN ($2.1)
SB (kriss1991) ($6.5)
BB ($12.4)

Dealt to SB (kriss1991)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG raises to $0.1, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, SB (kriss1991) calls $0.08, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $0.3, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png
SB (kriss1991) bets $0.2, UTG raises to $0.77 (All-In), CO folds, SB (kriss1991) calls $0.57

Turn: (Pot is $1.84, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png

River: (Pot is $1.84, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png

Showdown:
UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(Three of a Kind, Tens)

SB (kriss1991) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png
(Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $1.84 | Rake: $0.09

Winners:
UTG wins $1.8




PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

SB ($3.39)
BB (kriss1991) ($5)
UTG ($5.28)
MP ($6.47)
CO ($1.61)
BTN ($6.7)

Dealt to BB (kriss1991)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG & MP fold, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.2, BB (kriss1991) calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15

Flop: (Pot is $0.6, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
SB checks, BB (kriss1991) bets $0.35, CO folds, SB calls $0.35

Turn: (Pot is $1.3, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png
SB checks, BB (kriss1991) bets $0.75, SB raises to $1.5, BB (kriss1991) calls $0.75

River: (Pot is $4.3, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
SB bets $1.34 (All-In), BB (kriss1991) folds,

                                                                     
Total Pot: $4.3 | Rake: $0.21

Winners:
SB wins $4.09

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Re: Za pocetak NL5

evo za prvi hand...negdje sam procitao da kad takav lik gura na riveru da vecinom ima. ja bi ihnazvao "lovcima" smile

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Re: Za pocetak NL5

T9- tu nije ni fold ni call los. Ali ja bi rade foldao.
77- ako donkas i dobis raise nikad ne znas na cemu si, kloni se takvih situacija
AT - standard
99- ne mozes calati turn i foldati na tako mali bet, foldaj turn ili calaj oba ytreeta ako mu ne vjerujes. Ja bi ovo foldao na turnu. Btw kakve veze Ima cbet s ovim handom, nema nikakve.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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