Tema: NL100: bottom set multiway, 150bb deep

Odlučio sam leadat flop jer postoji velika mogućnost da će svi ischekirat, a i BB je fish pa da ga trapam. CO je 1 tabler, ali sa nitty statsima (17/14), ali na 60tak ruku. Što mislite sa čim on raise-a turn? Ja mislim da se radi o 89, 99 ili moguće i skali ako statsi imak nisu relevantni jer ipak radi se o 1 tableru i samo 60 handova sample. Pretpostavljam da bi 88 i 66 raise-ao na flopu?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

CO ($193)
BTN ($181.85)
SB (Alpha Scorpii) ($150.2)
BB ($186)
UTG ($101.8)
MP ($42)

Dealt to SB (Alpha Scorpii)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, BTN folds, SB (Alpha Scorpii) calls $2.5, BB calls $2

Flop: (Pot is $11, 4 players)

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SB (Alpha Scorpii) bets $9, BB calls $9, UTG folds, CO calls $9

Turn: (Pot is $36.5, 3 players)

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SB (Alpha Scorpii) bets $29.5, BB folds, CO raises to $181 (All-In)

River: (Pot is $249.5, 2 players, 1 all-in)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $249.5 | Rake: $249.5

Zadnji popravljao AlphaScorpii (14-05-2011 17:44:39)

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Re: NL100: bottom set multiway, 150bb deep

AlphaScorpii napisao:

Odlučio sam leadat flop jer postoji velika mogućnost da će svi ischekirat, a i BB je fish pa da ga trapam. CO je 1 tabler, ali sa nitty statsima (17/14), ali na 60tak ruku. Što mislite sa čim on raise-a turn? Ja mislim da se radi o 89, 99 ili moguće i skali ako statsi imak nisu relevantni jer ipak radi se o 1 tableru i samo 60 handova sample. Pretpostavljam da bi 88 i 66 raise-ao na flopu?

____________________                  

Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

CO ($193)
BTN ($181.85)
SB (Alpha Scorpii) ($150.2)
BB ($186)
UTG ($101.8)
MP ($42)

Dealt to SB (Alpha Scorpii)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, BTN folds, SB (Alpha Scorpii) calls $2.5, BB calls $2

Flop: (Pot is $11, 4 players)

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SB (Alpha Scorpii) bets $9, BB calls $9, UTG folds, CO calls $9

Turn: (Pot is $36.5, 3 players)

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SB (Alpha Scorpii) bets $29.5, BB folds, CO raises to $181 (All-In)

River: (Pot is $249.5, 2 players, 1 all-in)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $249.5 | Rake: $249.5

Mislim da je ovo za FOLD, Prvo ima nit statse, a onda je drugo da se na ovakvom boardu vjerojatno boji svega zivoga i nezivoga i gura all in sa nekim setom koji je naravno jaci od tvog smile . S takvim statsima su mu svi mali parovi 66,88,99 koji te svi odreda beataju. neki 10-7 s mu malo ispadaju iz rangea protiv UTG raise osim ako UTG nije neki bole smile iako sam primjetio dosta ljudi voli callat 10-7s jer su negdje procitali da ruka dobro igra PostFlop:). 89 je moguce ali u multiway potu malo vjerojatno da ovako ugura all in. Mislim da ima 99 ili 88 mada bi sa 88 vas dva raisao na flopu 99%. A sa 99 ce sigurno callat jer je multiway a nit je pa neki raise sa manjim overom ne dolazi u obzir po njegovom smile Mislim da on tu raisa all in cisto iz razloga jer je board sjeban a on se boji i svoje sjene smile Kada si ti betao i on callao tesko da te stavlja da betas u ovoliko ljudi sa nekim gutshotom pa set all in nakon folda bb-a na ovako drawy boardu u njegovom slucaju mi nekako cini logican sljed dogadjanja zato sto tvoj call range sa sb-a se moze sastojati od svega i svacega.  Tesko da ga mogu stavit na neki semi blef u ovoj situaciji iako bi to imalo podosta objasnjenjasamo da malo vise naginje na loose agresive stranu JTc...
Uglavnom protiv takvog igraca iako je mali broj handova mozes bez velike griznje savjesti foldat tu.  Da, mislim da je fold savrseno ispravan jer u 60 handova je nemoguce skuzit tko kako igra i koje ima namjere mada nevjerujem da bi ja foldao smile a mozda i bi...

Zadnji popravljao Colleric (14-05-2011 18:26:06)

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Re: NL100: bottom set multiway, 150bb deep

Ja mislim da ovo  nije fold!
zato sto je 99 jedini hand koji nas beata !
I ja sam uvjeren da 66 i 88 rejza na flopu!

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Re: NL100: bottom set multiway, 150bb deep

meni njegov shove više izgleda kao semi-bluff, flush draw sa devetkom za TP ili sedmicom za OESD, 89 možda...

da ima nekakav value hand (straight ili set) mislim da ne bi radio shove nego manji raise

Zadnji popravljao Svizac (16-05-2011 00:28:51)

Just admitting you are a fish is a big step forward!
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