Tema: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

Lik je bio dosta tajt iako nisam imao previše handova na njemu, 15/15, ali je po 3. put zaredom otvorio BTN, pa sam ga odlučio 3betat.  Zanima me street po street, bet sizing, komentari , kritike...

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

BB (sinisapro) ($24.35)
UTG ($22.26)
CO ($23.98)
BTN ($20)
SB ($48.18)

Dealt to BB (sinisapro)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG & CO fold, BTN raises to $0.6, SB folds, BB (sinisapro) raises to $2, BTN calls $1.4

Flop: (Pot is $4.1, 2 players)

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BB (sinisapro) bets $2.8, BTN calls $2.8

Turn: (Pot is $9.7, 2 players)

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BB (sinisapro) bets $6.6, BTN calls $6.6

River: (Pot is $22.9, 2 players)

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BB (sinisapro) bets $12.95 (All-In), BTN calls $8.6 (All-In)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $44.45 | Rake: $2

Winners:

Nowdays, at financial crisis, I dont give people to much kredit for second and third barrel!
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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

da sam 3beto odigrao bi isto sve vjerovatno..
imao je KQ? big_smile big_smile

If the player is unlikely to pay you off,
he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!
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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

Malo bi jace betao flop vjerojatno. Ne sviđa mi se baš izbor ruke za 3bet OOP... Inace sve ok

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

imao je JT sa h?

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

Sve ok.

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

ne svidja mi se river shove, u potu je vec previse i ne folda nista sto te beata.

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

Tilt napisao:

ne svidja mi se river shove, u potu je vec previse i ne folda nista sto te beata.

???????????? Pa nije shove bluff, nego za value.

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

lol nisam uopce vidio da je skeljio 2 para na flopu..
nh

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

Al sad kad je tilt već napisao sam malo razmišljao... nema baš puno handova koje beatamo. Al opet očekujem da one koje ne beatamo lik raise-a do rivera.

Zadnji popravljao AlphaScorpii (21-06-2011 13:57:55)

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

ma ne std je odigro, nisam uopce vidio dvojku na flopu..

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

Ja sam prvo pomislio da je imao QsQs  neutral

Pravi šubara lovac voli lov, žene i novac.
Roba, moderator ti je sramota.
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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

AlphaScorpii napisao:

Al sad kad je tilt već napisao sam malo razmišljao... nema baš puno handova koje beatamo. Al opet očekujem da one koje ne beatamo lik raise-a do rivera.

Ovo je bar jednostavan koncept. Ako checkiramo, svi bolji handovi će betat river i mi ćemo callat, a postoji određeni broj gorih handova s kojima će villain check backat, ali bi callao shove.
Naravno, postoje handovi koji će blefat river, ali mislim da ovo nije ni spot ni villain za bluff catchat.

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Re: BTN vs BB 3bet bluff, standard?

Ja sam si prvo razmišljao da check callam ako ima neki bustani fd koji će mi bacit ako shovam river, a ako checkiram će ga možda zgurati. Onda sam si razmišljao da može imati gro kombinacija pair+ fd koje neće moći/znati bacit na riveru tipa AQ,KJ itd... pa sam zguro. Šteta što je bio uber nuts već na flopu.

Nowdays, at financial crisis, I dont give people to much kredit for second and third barrel!
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