Tema: Kad ribe polude

Evo ovdje cu stavljat ovakve i slicne handove da se nasmijete samnom a i da vidite koliko profitabilan HU SNG moze biti smile

Lik ima -27% ROI, graf mu izgleda kao staza za skijaske skokove big_smile

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BB: t1790         M = 59.67
Hero (BTN/SB): t1210         M = 40.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t100, Hero raises to t1210 all in, BB calls t1110

Flop: (t2420) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif

Turn: (t2420) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif

River: (t2420) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif

Final Pot: t2420
BB shows 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (a pair of Tens)
Hero shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
Hero wins t2420

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Sexy call

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Ne suviše vezano za ovo, baš sam nedavno primijetio uspoređujući sharkscope statse da najviše katastrofalnih igrača igra HU u sitnim noćnim satima, dakle od 2 ujutro na dalje (inače igram na non-US siteu gdje su velika većina Europljani, pa analogija vjerojatno ne vrijedi za PS i Full Tilt). Ne znam jel još netko primijetio ovu korelaciju - valjda je riječ o najvećim tilt-degenericima, il se ekipa ponapija navečer pa igra iz zajebancije.. Šteta što mi se teško prisilit grindati u sitne noćne sate, jer čini se da se dosta lake love tu nudi...

edit: @mile: Nije li možda protiv protivnika za koje temeljem statsa vjeruješ da su ribice (poput ovoga) probat smallballat, umjesto zgurat preflop s ovim handom gdje ćeš najčešće bit 60-40 favorit, tj. ne misliš li da u globalu imaš veći edge nad njima od toga?

Zadnji popravljao dabac (23-01-2010 03:14:18)

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Inace da, protiv ovakvih riba nebi 3betao AJ nego samo callao, ali protiv ovog lika sam imao dobar read da jake handove prije flopa sa SB limpa a iz BB samo calla.
Nisam napravio normalan 3bet jer mislim da ce platit sa svime i ako fulam flop mi je tesko igrat pogotovo iz razloga jer je cesto donkao pot sized bet a nisam znao sto to predstavlja, zato sam shovao a i jako cesto ce me platit sa slabijim (kao sto i je big_smile ).

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Peti hand meca

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BB: t1520         M = 50.67
Hero (BTN/SB): t1480         M = 49.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t210, Hero raises to t575, BB raises to t1520 all in, Hero calls t905 all in

Flop: (t2960) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif

Turn: (t2960) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif

River: (t2960) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif

Final Pot: t2960
BB shows 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (a pair of Threes)
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins t2960


Nakon toga s ovih 40 chipova sto mu je ostalo par puta sam izgubio sa malo jacim handom, svaki hand je igrao all in.
Dolazi do 400 chipova i shova iz SB ja ga callam sa AQ on ima AJ i turn J.
Nastavlja igrat stalno all in, ima 860 chipova, shova sa SB ja ga callam sa 88 on ima A3s i flop dolazi A.
Nakon toga igra malo normalnije ja imam 800 chipova, blindovi 20/40, ja na SB dobijem TT, raisam do 80, on 3beta do 200, ja shovam i on snap call sa K5o, i tu sam prezivio, i par handova nakon toga ovo:

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BTN/SB: t1390         M = 23.17
Hero (BB): t1610         M = 26.83

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
BTN/SB raises to t120, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t240) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t180, Hero raises to t445, BTN/SB raises to t1270 all in, Hero calls t825

Turn: (t2780) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2780) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2780
BTN/SB shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (Ace King high)
Hero shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (a pair of Queens)
Hero wins t2780






:card_heart  HUSNG  :card_heart

Zadnji popravljao mile88 (30-01-2010 20:49:10)

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Omg  big_smile 
Treba imati živaca odigrati sa ovakvima

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Evo jos par zanimljivih handova protiv ovog istog lika kao iz prethodnog posta, inace lik ni ne igra tako lose kao sto izgleda ali je najveci tilter kojeg sam vidio u zadnje vrijeme, dok je u prednosti po chipovima igra donekle normalno, ako ja imam npr 1700 on 1300 vec pocinje ludit, ali ako izgubi neki pot veci od 5bb  big_smile

Ovo je prvi hand

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BB: t1500         M = 50
Hero (BTN/SB): t1500         M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t240, Hero calls t180

Flop: (t480) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t480) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets t375, Hero calls t375

River: (t1230) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets t885 all in, Hero calls t885 all in

Final Pot: t3000
BB shows 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (a pair of Fours)
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins t3000


Nakon tog prvo odbije rematch i onda za par minuta sjedne kod mene i dobije me s KK vs mojih TT

Sljedeci mec ovo:

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Hero (BB): t1265         M = 42.17
BTN/SB: t1735         M = 57.83

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, BTN/SB calls t120

Flop: (t360) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t220, BTN/SB calls t220

Turn: (t800) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t865 all in, BTN/SB calls t865

River: (t2530) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2530
Hero shows 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (a pair of Nines)
BTN/SB shows 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (Queen Ten high)
Hero wins t2530

Dva handa poslije s ovim ostatkom od 24bb iz SB shova 68 i tu sam prezivio sa svojih AT.

Nakon toga opet ne prihvaca rematch ali sjeda na prazan stol u loby, na srecu bio sam dovoljno brz pa sam stigao sjest kod njega, i taj mec sam izgubio u trecem handu sa 66 na 7455Q boardu, on imao Q2. Ali tu sam si sam kriv jer sam lose odigrao.

Nakon tog prihvati rematch, ja padnem na ~1000 chipova, poduplam se sa bojom koju sam dobio na turnu, a on se stacka sa FD.
Onda jedan read:

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Hero (BB): t1960         M = 43.56
BTN/SB: t1040         M = 23.11

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
BTN/SB raises to t90, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t180) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t180) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t130, Hero calls t130

River: (t440) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t440, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls t440

Final Pot: t1320
Hero shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (two pair, Fives and Fours)
BTN/SB shows 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Fives and Fours)
Hero wins t1320


Nakon tog handa popne se na 880 (22bb) i shova QJ iz SB i ja prezivim sa AT.

Opet odbije rematch i kasnije sjedne za moj stol. I evo jedan zanimljiv hand iz tog meca  big_smile

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Hero (BTN/SB): t1085         M = 24.11
BB: t1915         M = 42.56

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t200, BB calls t200

River: (t680) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets t680, Hero raises to t745 all in, BB folds

Final Pot: t2040
Hero wins t2040


Nakon sto sam ga dobio preselio se na 100$ ali sam bio spor tak da je netko sjeo prije mene sad

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mile, vidim da ti ide jako dobro , pogledao sam tvoje filmice i svidjaju mi se, zanima me dali postoji neka dobra knjiga za hu sng, i sto preporucas ljudima

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Postoji knjiga za HU SNG, od Collina Moshmana - Heads-Up No-Limit Hold 'em, stvarno odlicna knjiga za pocetnike, ali i malo naprednije.

A ljudima preporucam za pocetak tu knjigu da skuze osnovne stvari, 2p2 forum i sa tog foruma od Spamz0r-a HH reviewi u tekstualnom obliku koji su stvarno odlicni, detaljno opisan cijeli thinking proces za svaki hand, sto vise videa po mogucnosti od razlicitih igraca da vidite vise stilova igre...
I jos preporucujem ljudima da ne misle da su najbolji, najpametniji i ostalo naj nego da prihvate ono sto procitaju/pogledaju od iskusnijih igraca. To kazem iz vlastitog iskustva, jer na pocetku dok sam poceo igrat igrao sam "po svom" nije mi se dalo nista ni citat ni gledat, i cak me i islo donekle ok, ali sam ipak odlucio procitao Moshmana i clanke sa 2p2 i pogledao neka videa, ali nista od toga nisam primjenio na svojoj igri jer mi je pola toga izgledalo suludo sto oni rade. Ali dok sam to poceo prihvacat i primjenjivat krenulo je na puno bolje.

PS. ako nekog zanimaju ovi HH reviewi koje sam spomenuo nek se javi na PM pa cu mu poslat linkove. Ili ako smijem mogu ih staviti i ovdje.

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joj, mile ti uvijek imas ludilo na stolovima... hehe

nice job!

"...Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?..."
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I na kraju za koliko si ojadio fisha? smile

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Ukupno sam 4 BI u plusu protiv njega.

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25jfg9y&s=6

malo sam se zafrko što sam dizo na 13 $ ali mislio sam da je dovoljno lud da me shovea big_smile

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Ovo uvijek moraš callati jer mu tako daješ priliku da te blefa na riveru.

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da sam na njegov prvi rejz callao, ne bih izvukao ovih 9 $... u prijašnjim handovima je blefirao pa pokazivao karte. htio sam vidjeti koliko je "hrabar"... mislim kako sam sasvim dovoljno izvukao. a i 2 handa poslije sam mu sve uzeo, baš zbog ovoga...

Zadnji popravljao djuma (03-02-2010 03:41:00)

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BB: t1410         M = 47
Hero (BTN/SB): t1590         M = 53

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t120) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t120) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB calls t60

Final Pot: t240
BB mucks 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
Hero shows 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (a straight, Six high)
Hero wins t240


Izgleda da me stavio na 89 pa je mislio da cemo splitat  big_smile

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Hero (BTN/SB): t1350         M = 22.50
BB: t1650         M = 27.50

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
Hero calls t20, BB checks

Flop: (t80) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t240) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets t1530 all in, Hero calls t1230 all in

River: (t2700) Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t2700
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Kings)
BB shows 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (two pair, Kings and Fours)
Hero wins t2700

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