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Re: best play???

lol

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Re: best play???

PSB flop i turn da izvučeš max value i povećaš pot za river bet. Mislim da c/c nije toliko loš pošto ima nekoliko missanih SD-a, makar sa top 2 vs fisha sam ja uvijek rađe za bet.

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Re: best play???

chillin napisao:

a dobro onda kolaj... a šta

pa ne mislim callat overbet ship... al callao bi da je betao pola pota...

A svako gubi bar ponekad, ali nikad Boža zvani Pub

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Re: best play???

Prvi hand koji postam ovdje, zanima me kako bi vi odigrali.

Villain igra 43/0 af 1.4 na 23 ruke

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Party Poker, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04

BB (halisovatelj) ($4.98)
UTG ($0)
MP ($7.81)
CO ($2.02)
BTN ($2.74)
SB ($3.96)

Dealt to BB (halisovatelj)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)

MP raises to $0.08, CO folds, BTN calls $0.08, SB folds, BB (halisovatelj) calls $0.04

Flop: (Pot is $0.26, 4 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png
BB (halisovatelj) checks, MP checks, BTN bets $0.12, BB (halisovatelj) calls $0.12, MP folds

Turn: (Pot is $0.5, 3 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png    http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png
BB (halisovatelj) bets $0.24, BTN calls $0.24

River: (Pot is $0.98, 3 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png   http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
BB (halisovatelj) bets $0.47, BTN raises to $1.17, BB (halisovatelj) folds

                                                                     
Total Pot: $2.62 | Rake: $0.09

Winners:
BTN wins $2.53




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Re: best play???

Drugi hand. Villain igra 46/5 af 1,4

Fold po meni, iako ga ne mogu stavit na ruku

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Party Poker, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04

BTN ($1.08)
SB ($4)
BB ($4.57)
UTG ($8.35)
MP ($4.3)
CO (halisovatelj) ($5.28)

Dealt to CO (halisovatelj)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)

UTG & MP fold, CO (halisovatelj) raises to $0.12, BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.08

Flop: (Pot is $0.26, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png
BB checks, CO (halisovatelj) bets $0.18, BB calls $0.18

Turn: (Pot is $0.62, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png    http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png
BB bets $0.2, CO (halisovatelj) raises to $0.6, BB calls $0.4

River: (Pot is $1.82, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png   http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png
BB checks, CO (halisovatelj) bets $0.92, BB raises to $1.84, CO (halisovatelj) folds

                                                                     
Total Pot: $4.58 | Rake: $0.18

Winners:
BB wins $4.4




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Re: best play???

prvi hand si se potpuno izgubio, pokusaj pazit da imas uvik line koji ima smisla. Ti pretvaras hand u bluf, odnosno nekakav block bet podsvjesni. Fold obv river.

Drugi hand, mislim da bi calla jer mi nije bas preuvjerljiv. Iako je jako pasivan pa ocito fold ima itekako smisla. Najcesce ce imat neka 2 para, iako se nebi iznenadia da pokaze KQ. Ali trebas dat 0.90c za pot od nekih 4$.

Zadnji popravljao chillin (28-12-2011 02:51:58)

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: best play???

Mislim da se u svakom slucaju potpuno izgubio, jer je promasio temu u koju ce postati handove.

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Re: best play???

to da, nije pristojno hajđekat temu

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: best play???

sb je regish...
na 347 handova 21/15...
F to steal mu je 83%...
AF: 4.2, na flopu 6.0...
jel mislite da raisa ovdje combo drawove???
koji je njegov calling range na flopu i dali betat dalje kad mi dodje ovaj turn jer completa skoro sve drawove ali meni daje nut FD???

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

BTN (Hero) ($10.2)
SB ($10.14)
BB ($10.64)
UTG ($22.97)
MP ($18.47)
CO ($10.82)

Dealt to BTN (Hero)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG & MP & CO fold, BTN (Hero) raises to $0.3, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.2

Flop: (Pot is $0.9, 3 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png
SB checks, BB bets $0.45, BTN (Hero) raises to $1.55, SB calls $1.55, BB folds

Turn: (Pot is $4.45, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png    http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png
SB checks, BTN (Hero)???







villian je fish...
na 59 handova 84/21...
AF: 4.2...
jel river bolje callati ili raisati???
ne vidim sta me beata osim A3 ili A8 a mislim da mi to raisa na flopu...

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

BTN (Hero) ($17.68)
SB ($8.01)
BB ($16.3)
UTG ($10.05)
MP ($26.04)
CO ($13.71)

Dealt to BTN (Hero)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG & MP & CO fold, BTN (Hero) raises to $0.3, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $0.7, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png
SB bets $0.1, BTN (Hero) raises to $0.65, SB calls $0.55

Turn: (Pot is $2, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png    http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png
SB bets $0.1, BTN (Hero) raises to $1.2, SB calls $1.1

River: (Pot is $4.4, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png   http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png
SB bets $0.1, BTN (Hero)???

A svako gubi bar ponekad, ali nikad Boža zvani Pub

Re: best play???

jedino logično što može imati u prvom handu je combo, ali cudan play s njegove strane, ne bih betao turn. Može imati i KQ, ali nemaš se čega bojati s čekiranjem, ili si far ahead ili na par outova.
Drugi hand rejzaj jače turn. rvr vjerojatno ne bi rejzao, može imati random 3 ili 8 u hercu osim A3 i A8.

Zadnji popravljao Rear_Admiral (07-01-2012 22:25:09)

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Re: best play???

Rear_Admiral napisao:

jedino logično što može imati u prvom handu je combo, ali cudan play s njegove strane, ne bih betao turn. Može imati i KQ, ali nemaš se čega bojati s čekiranjem, ili si far ahead ili na par outova.
Drugi hand rejzaj jače turn. rvr vjerojatno ne bi rejzao, može imati random 3 ili 8 u hercu osim A3 i A8.

+1

If the player is unlikely to pay you off,
he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!
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Re: best play???

Prvi hand bi vjerojatno cb.
Drugi hand bi jače raise-ao i flop i turn, a kako je odigrano river bi vjerojatno r/f nekih 2-3$ (ekipa češće u ovim situacijama kad pogodi skalu leada jače, a ako ima 3 neka mu...)

Zadnji popravljao AlphaScorpii (08-01-2012 15:24:49)

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villian je neki random, izgleda mi nitasto... dosad na 20-ak handova 14/8...
jel flop ok?? as played sta na turnu???

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

SB ($3.37)
BB ($10.53)
UTG ($9.7)
BTN (Hero) ($10.5)

Dealt to BTN (Hero)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG raises to $0.3, BTN (Hero) calls $0.3, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $0.75, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
UTG bets $0.55, BTN (Hero) raises to $1.75, UTG calls $1.2

Turn: (Pot is $4.25, 2 players)

http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png    http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png
UTG checks, Hero???

A svako gubi bar ponekad, ali nikad Boža zvani Pub

Re: best play???

flop raise je dobar, a ovo ti je uzasan turn, ja bi foldo odmah.

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Re: best play???

b/f turn iako mislim da bi te rejzo na turnu jedino sa made flushom posto bi 22 vjerojatno 3beto flop a JJ/AA ima jako rijetko i mislim da tu isto 3beta flop, mozda ima neki hend tip AxQs AxKs, TsKs, QsKs i zato bi chek behind po meni ovdje bio gubitak valuea tako da je po meni best play ovdje bet nekih ~3 za value i za protection.

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Re: best play???

bet

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Re: best play???

Sto te muci oko tog spota, zasto ne bi betao turn? Nekako mi se cini da je clear bet pa zato pitam.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Re: best play???

Rear_Admiral napisao:

Sto te muci oko tog spota, zasto ne bi betao turn? Nekako mi se cini da je clear bet pa zato pitam.

znam da trebam betat turn... zanima me sizing, sta na njegov raise, a sta na call nakon beta i kakav je njegov tu calling range na flopu i na turnu... i ako bi ja betao a on callao sta na spade river, a sta na blank river... a hrpa stvari me intereisra... big_smile:D:D

A svako gubi bar ponekad, ali nikad Boža zvani Pub

Re: best play???

sizing: ja bi betao 3$ jer zelim dobit value od hendova koje sam ti gore napisao
što na rejz: ja ne vidim što bi on slabije od tvog henda rejzo, eventualno TsKs, QsKs, setove sumnjam da ovdje ima, logično mi je da ih 3beta na flopu, možda ovdje rejza i AQ/AK sa spade kickerom
što na call i koji je njegov range: na blank river trpaj ostatak unutra / na spade river bi check behind jer sumnjam da u njegovom rangeu ima spadea protiv kojeg imaš FE, a njegov calling range na turnu AxQs AxKs, TsKs, QsKs (možda i šire)

Zadnji popravljao Mrtvi Jazavac (05-02-2012 18:04:50)

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Re: best play???

IMO bet/call turn ako slucajno c/raisa, ako ne betas non spade river, foldas na spade river ako beta..

when you feel like quitting think about why you started..
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Re: best play???

b/c turn i scomitan je da calla i najgore moguće rivere ili ovdje automatski misliš da bi villainov c/r bio all in?

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Ne mislim da bi bili all-in, vidim da bi bili.. betas oko 3$ i behind ti je oko 4.5$, dobro ako villan bas min c/r mi zguramo jos taj dolar behind

when you feel like quitting think about why you started..
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Re: best play???

Fold pf, ako je nitty random, nemas readova, igra 14/8   i opena UTG, čisti fold pf.
As played,  bet turn, ship river no spade!

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Re: best play???

hendrixjimmi napisao:

Fold pf, ako je nitty random, nemas readova, igra 14/8   i opena UTG, čisti fold pf.
As played,  bet turn, ship river no spade!

fold pf AJo IP 4 handed na single raise protiv tipa na kojem imamo 20  handova  roll

Zadnji popravljao martingale666 (05-02-2012 21:53:59)

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Re: best play???

meh.
Nisam vidio , sry.
bet, river no Spade easy ship  cool

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