Za 5$...cool.....
pa ak ti je tak smijesno vrati mu tih 5$, nije ovaj forum caritas...
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Za 5$...cool.....
pa ak ti je tak smijesno vrati mu tih 5$, nije ovaj forum caritas...
sent sa ac od buraza, kad stignes prija 14h sentaj na makemoneyordie1 i onda zatvori temu
Hvala
ako netko ima treba mi do 2h 13$ na tilt, dajem na stars..saljem prvi...
Pozdrav svima...
Upao sam u neke ne nadane probleme, pa sam malo u "govnima"...
Trebao bi pomoc da u nekoliko navrata ovaj tjedan isplatim $ sa starsa...Isplacivao bi svaki dan po 100-150$,..
Trenutni tecaj $ je 5,29, a ja prodajem po 4,29(tecaj $ - 1,koji god bio tecaj) , jer mi je stvarno uzasno hitno to rijesit do ponedjeljka...
Znaci za isplatu od 100$ vi zaradite 100kn...
Tek cu oko 2 bit online pa ako se netko javi neka mi posalje pm pa cu se javit kada dodem...
Unaprijed hvala na pomoci...
koji je nick tom BEZmudonji na forumu?
Ma w/e... ono što ne kužim je zašto bi netko uopće išao pisat ovakav tekst. Imaš XXXXXXXXXXXX $, kaj te boli k. dal neki X ameri na nekom forumu misli dal si stvarn ili ne.
Znas zasto? Zato sto xx% ljudi htjeli to priznati ili ne zude za slavom, ako je stvaran mislis da mu je bed citati kako se sve vrti oko njega?
Sljedeci razlog, pa hebiga ako je taj lik stvaran dobit ce odlican sponzorski ugovor sa nekom od vodecih poker soba...Moze on imati xxxxxxxxxxx$ dolara ali ako mozes na neki nacin izvuci jos xxxxxxxx$ zasto to ne bi i napravio...
EDIT EDIT
Vidim da je roba postao isto misljenje kao je dok sam ja ovo pisao...;-)
ok, ty fable...
javim ti i posaljem cim mi javi broj racuna...cujemo se preko pm...
Admin moze zatvorit temu...
Pozz!
Ako tko moze da mi napravi uslugu,hitno mi je...
Posto u mojoj vukojebini nema banke, zamolio bih nekoga da mi frendu uplati 300kn na tekuci(zamolio me da mu posudim, a iz zagreba je, pa mi je ovo najlaksi nacin posto nemam banke u blizini), a ja mu shipnem na starse 60$ prvi...
Ako ima itko bio bih jako zahvalan...
Premda mi ovo sve nekako izgleda pre pre dobro, tako da mislim da je ovo zajebancija...ali...
Tekst je dugacak ali isplati se procitati. O njemu su dosta pisali na 2+2 i sada je odlucio otkriti tko je on zapravo:
First of all, I’d like to say thank you to everyone who posted kind things in the thread about me. I read most of the comments, and I really appreciate all the love that I have been given by you guys. Since people have asked me about it, here’s a report tab of my last ~800k hands or so. I can’t post my screennames (under strict instruction from lawyers), but I hope this will give you guys an idea of my results in poker:
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/16/a orttab.png
I am José, the so called 'Portuguese poker prodigy'.
Many of my friends and family have pointed out the thread about me on 2p2. They told me that there is a lot of speculation about me: that people are saying my story is fake; i don't exist; i am some mystical force, and; I even eat babies for breakfast. I am surprised and flattered (and a little scared), but I’m nothing so mythological I’m afraid. I'm just an ordinary 18 year old kid who loves to play poker.
So, this is my story.
I was born in 1992. I was 4 years old when my Father died. I don't remember much about him, but from the stories I hear about him, I know he was a great man. I was raised by my Mother and although it was just the two of us, we got by. She worked hard to support me and make me happy. I watched her struggle and her selflessness and determination affected me strongly in life.
I attended an international School and studied hard. I was a good student and would enter into a lot of math and writing challenges, winning many of them. I finished my GCSE's with extremely good grades.
Growing up I aspired to be a professional footballer. My Mum would always tell me that my father admired brave men, that he admired men who took risks and took life by the horns. My dad was never there to watch me play and teach me like other kids, but I would practice football obsessively. In time I got good enough to play on the youth team for Sporting Lisbon, where I was on my way to play for the national youth team. I've also played Tennis a lot since I was 5. But when I was 13 I had a bad knee injury that barred me from playing the game again. It crushed me at the time, but soon after my interests shifted in other directions.
My fascination with poker really started when I was 16. I decided that I wanted to buy a house in Hawaii for me and my family/friends which I had already picked out. Sounds silly for a high schooler, I know, but I was that kind of kid. A friend of mine had been playing poker for play money and told me a story about this guy named Durrrr. How he had started with nothing, just a poor college kid, and using his wits and hard work, created for himself a fortune by mastering this game. I was captivated. I got every poker book I could find at the local bookstore (I couldn’t afford to buy any and Poker was still a secret, so I’d sneak the books into the bathroom to read them) and spent 2 months reading and analyzing them – Mathematics of poker, Sklanky's theory of poker, Harrington on Hold'em, Gus Hansen's Every Hand Revealed, and more. I was also watching every poker show I could and studying all of their plays, all the way down to the smallest little bet or fold. As I was studying the game, I would test my theories and discoveries on the play money tables, where over time I accumulated a million play chips.
I decided I was ready to step up my game. I begged my Mum for 2 days to let me use her credit card and deposit 30 Euros on Betfair. She was hesitant at first, but in the end she relented. She just wanted me to be happy, she said. And that’s how my journey into the world of poker got started.
I began grinding 1c/2c tables, playing as many tables as possible and trying to capitalize on rakeback. I played 6-10 hours a day everyday that I could, writing down the most important hands on a piece of paper (at this point I’d never heard of HEM or even 2p2) and I would analyze them afterwards using the concepts I had learned in my books and on TV. I kept on this way, cycling through sites to take advantage of bonuses, and eventually was able to grind 24 tables at once.
About a month and a half in, I had made that initial deposit into $2,500. At this point, I was playing 100NL and the games were starting to get tougher. I noticed that the best players at my tables were playing a looser style than me (I was really tight, like 15/13). Slowly I began to open up my game and that got me to think more deeply about hands. This eased my transition into HU, where I would end up playing most of my volume.
It was when I had built my roll up to $5,000, I told my Mum about my success. I expected her to be pleasantly surprised, but she was nervous for me. She said if I wasn’t careful, I would turn into a gambler and lose everything. I remembered her words echoing in my head when one day I took a shot at a 200NL game that was built around a big fish. I had never had so much money at one table before, and my heart was pounding just sitting there. About 15 minutes in, I got dealt KK UTG. I raised 3.5x, the fish 3-bet me UTG+1, and it folded around to the SB who made a large 4-bet. It was the fish’s first 3-bet and the reraiser was extremely tight. I stared at my hand for a while and made a crying hero fold... the fish shoved, and the SB called. It was AKs vs AA. I was so ecstatic at my fold, it gave me so much confidence. I went on to win 3 buyins in the game and took a screenshot to myself sitting at a table with a whole 822 dollars. When I went to bed that night I was so pumped I couldn’t sleep. I still have that screenshot.
The next day a good Betfair regular who really respected my game wanted to get in touch with me and talk about poker. Up until now I had been learning on my own, so I got to know him and started talking about hands with him. Eventually he told me about Hold'em Manager. When I found it, I was instantly hooked. I bought it and spent hour upon hour just looking at all of the possibilities. See, for me, poker has always been fascinating. I see every hand as a puzzle that I need to solve to find the best play. To me, these tools were like a dream come true. It was like a little workshop in my own computer, prodding, tinkering with my game, trying to visualize how little changes would affect the big picture. To me, it was all exhilarating. My poker development soared.
Within a couple of months, I was playing 400NL and studying poker religiously. For 6 hours a day I would just analyze the game, going through every single regular’s hand histories as well as my own. I made long, detailed notes (To this day I have 100+ pages of notes on people on my computer) and would try to dissect every single little hand, even the most commonplace ones. I felt like my game was improving fast, and I was starting to build real confidence in my abilities. By the time I built my roll up to $8,000 I ended up taking a shot against a heads up regular whose game I had studied intensely. It was a long match, but over 9 hours I ended up beating him for almost 10 buyins.
I kept pushing forward. I started to believe there wasn't anything I couldn’t accomplish if I put my mind to it. I was grinding every day, studying and reviewing hands and trucking forward in my career. Around then I ended up finding 2p2 and HoldemManager, which brought to me a whole new range of opportunities. I spent countless hours reading through all of the great posts in the history of 2p2, from the likes of durrrr, DogIsHead, Krantz, Sauce, Jungleman, Lefort, MagicNinja, FoxwoodsFiend, etc. I would analyze their posts and try my hardest to grasp why they were saying what they were saying. Of course, a lot of the time I couldn’t, so I did what any normal person would do: I tracked them down on Skype and would ask them for 1 hour of coaching for them to talk to me about their ideas about whatever hand they had talked about that I didn’t understand. That’s how I met Jungleman, DogIsHead, Sauce, etc. It was fascinating and amazing to have access to the best poker minds in the world and pick their brains about poker theory. I tried to assimilate what I found most interesting about their advice into my own game. I would also look for the things that they found annoying (like check-minraises, preflop minraising, stop and go’s etc.) and made a point to incorporate those things into my game as well.
I rocketed through the limits, pushing my way up to $5/$10 NL, where I hit my first major roadbump. I took 3 unsuccessful shots over the course of a month, and when I couldn’t seem to infiltrate the ranks of $5/$10, I decided to get a coach. I shopped around on 2p2 and ended up talking to a lot of different ones (hence why so many people know bits and pieces of me), and I would incorporate little pieces of their advice into my game. I would round up a list of all the regs who I thought were the strongest, and tried to contact each and every one of them to get an insight into their thinking, ask why they did this or that. It was at this point that I truly began to understand poker and everything was starting to click. I would watch videos of all of the best video makers over and over again and take notes on what they did differently from me and why. To this day I have 35 pages of notes on training videos. I eventually broke into $5/$10 and started beating the limit: I began to surpass the people I was learning from, moving higher and higher in the stakes, and I felt unstoppable. It was at this point that the idea of becoming the best poker player in the world really seemed like it was within my grasp.
I cycled to and fro for a while. I was learning from some of the best players in the world, working on my game, all while trying to balance family and high school. It wasn’t easy and I faltered at times, but finally by the end of summer I was ready to take my first shots at nosebleeds. They didn’t go quite as planned the first time around. I got to revel in my first +$100k day, and I got to wallow in my first -$200k loss. There were lots of ups and downs, but I felt grateful for it everyday. I felt like I was finally in that arena that I had dreamed of all this time. Despite the swings, I used some of the money I made to buy a house that house in Hawaii for us. Everything seemed to be going right.
Then in October last year, something really messed up happened to me. I was taken advantage of by someone close to me. They cheated me for a large sum of money – about $250,000. Although I don’t want to write too much about the details, it was really screwed up. At first I was just shocked that this could happen - I was 17 and probably a little naive, but I couldn’t imagine that a person could do such a thing to someone they cared about. But as time passed, I started to feel angry. Angry at all of the hard-earned money that I had lost. In my mind I felt abused. I lost faith in people. I started questioning my friends, my family, even my girlfriend and, as I felt worse and worse, my poker results started to flounder. I just felt ****ed over... by life and by poker.
It started a wave of negativity that impacted on everything. But, after a while and thanks largely to my girlfriend, my mum and my best friend, I remembered how lucky I am. Lucky to find poker, lucky to have a flair for it, to run good at the right times. Lucky to be healthy, and to have all of the tremendous opportunities that I have, to have a good family and have bought us that house in Hawaii.
I remember as a schoolboy reading the Greek myths. And in the myths when humans would get too cocky the Gods would come down, smack them around a little, and remind them of their fallibility and insignificance. Even the greatest warriors had to learn to be modest. Haha, that sounds really cheeky but I’m just happy to be climbing this mountain called poker. I’m proud of how far I’ve come and all that I’ve managed to accomplish in this time, but I’m far from done.
I look up from my desk, and there’s a board suspended on the wall. I made it a year ago when I was 17, when reaching the top of the poker world was still just a silly fantasy. On this board there are four pictures cut out and pasted… a crisp green million dollar bill, a picture of a WSOP bracelet, a screenshot of Durrrr sitting at Rail Heaven, and a photo of a little house in Hawaii. And as I’m looking at this silly little board I made, my mind wanders to where I started my journey. I remember standing at the foot of this mountain, a 16 year old boy, looking up with dreamlike wonder. Imagining what it would be like to scale its peak. I’m not at the foot of the mountain anymore, but my story has just begun. And although sometimes this mountain can seem dauntingly tall… I’m ready for it. And I’m grateful for this chance to climb it.
Thank you everyone so much for reading, and good luck
Ako ovo nisi rijesio mogu ti ja sutra u jutro rijesit...
nogalo napisao:otvaram 3x 99+, Kj+, Ats+
...ostalo 2x?? mislis da se to ne primjeti?..exploitable je...
ne,ne nisam to mislio tako, normalno da miksam. Nego sam htio reci da mi je receno da nije los play ako betam 3x sa spomenutim kartama...
što se tiče handa,to je obv snap al mi nije jasno zašto otvaraš 3x na 25/50?
a ovo za 10stolova igrati na ovim početnim limitima nema nikakvog smisla... nemožeš beatat 20tice(kao što kažeš) a ti igraš na 10ticama 10stolova!? koliko vidim na ovom jednom handu moraš puno učiti prvenstveno o efektivnom steku,tako da bi ti preporučio da smanjiš broj stolova na max4 i pogledaš par videa na husng.com ...
Hvala na savjetu. definitivno cu smanjiti na 4 stola,ali manje necu...! Upoznao sam rega na vecim limitima, i on mi upravo savjetuje (osim da definitivno smanjim broj stolova) je to da na nizim levelima (2,5,10)otvaram 3x 99+, Kj+, Ats+, ti ne mislis tako?...Gledam videe, i poceo sam postat handove kako bi usavrsio igru. Svjestan sam i priznajem svoje greske , pa sam i stoga voljan poslusati savjete o prihvatiti ih...
na koju foru 10 stolova nije mi jasno
izmedju 10s i 20s nije velika razlika, imas lose igrace koji su uvijek losi, breakeven/male winnere koji su uvijek losi i winning regulare koji su malo bolji od 10s
Ne koristim programe a sam neznam kako se racuna roi...Uglavnom vodim si statistike i evidencije...
Prosjek ispadne 59win/100game ( tu je 2$, 5$ i 10$)
24 incni monitor i udri...ali znam i sam da je to glupo tako igrat, ali imao sam za ocistit bonus, a i ide mi ok pa, na kraju krajeva najvazniji su $$$..Budem se prebacio na 4 stola sljedeci tjedan, jer znam i sam da igrajuci 10 stolova napredovat cu NIKADA i da je to sve robotska igra...
...sick 10 stolova HU...veca je razlika izmedju 20tica i 30tica nego 10tki i 20tki po meni....
Da ti budem iskren 20-tice nisam niti probao igrati, jer jednostavno nisam spreman na taj level. Jos ima puno odluka na koje poslje kada gledam ruke sumnjam da su dobro odigrane. Zato cu od sada tu postati kako bi vidio koji je najbolji play...
Dubai0 gledao sam te jucer ili prekjucer, nesjecam se tocno mislim na 30-ticama, good job...Da te pitam da li igras i cash HU te da li je jako velika razlika izmedu cash HU i sit and go HU? Hvala na odgovoru
yep ovo ti je snap pogotovo protiv takvog lika. Inace nije ti bitan tolko ROI koliko $ per hour ako mislis da ovako vise zaradis onda tako igraj. I koji je ovo level? Po mom misljenju vise ti se isplati igrat manje stolova i move upat nego mass multitejblat na malim levelima
Slazem se Stoka sa tobom, ali imam problem sa tiltom kada igram manje stolova. I dok god taj problem ne ukonim budem igrao na ovaj nacin, jer bas kako kazes nije toliko vazan roi ako imam dobru zaradu po satu...
...izi ship pogotovo protiv aggro lika...koji je BI?
Ovo je 10.50$. Imam banku za vise ali na 20ticama se po meni vidi osjetno razlika u kvaliteti igraca...A ne bih htio zuriti sa levelima jer ocito nisam jos spreman za vece limite...
snap shove?
Hvala knez na brzom odgovoru. Nisam bio siguran u svoj play zato sam trazio msiljenje. U laganom sam downsingu.
Pokazao je JTs(pik) , pa mi se motalo po glavi da je jako los igrac, te da sam mogao baciti i dobiti ga kasnije...
Ali kada bolje razmislim snap je jedini ispravan potez protiv ovakvog igraca...
Pozdrav
Postat cu neke ruke za koje nisam znao koji je najbolji play pa bih htio cuti vasa cijenjena misljenja
Igram uz pomoc Top Sharka, jer sam se od pocetka navikao na njega, premda bi mi HM vjerojatno bio bolji...
E da i mass multitablam HU sit and go (10 odjednom), pricao sam sa nekim deckima na two plus two i nije im jasno zasto to radim, te tvrde da bih imao puno veci roi da igram samo 1 ili 2 stola...Uglavnom multitablanjem sam tilt sveo na minimum , a i zarada ide puno vise prema gore
A sad hand. Villian je los igrac, na sharku ima ocjenu 9...Imao sam nekoliko meceva sa njim, i znao je preflop all inat Q7 sa 1600 cipova i takve gluposti...
Da li je ovdje fold ili all in? Premda znamo da je villian agro manijak?
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t25
Big Blind: t50
SB (hero) (t1765)
BB (t1235)
SB (hero) has M value 23.53
Dealt to SB (hero)
Preflop: (Pot is: t75)
SB (hero) raises to t150, BB calls t100
Flop: (Pot is t300, 2 players)
BB checks, SB (hero) bets t200, BB raises to t1050
Turn: (Pot is t1550, 2 players)
River: (Pot is t1550, 2 players)
Total Pot: t1550 | Rake: t1550
U hebote klinac sto si pametan.. cifre su priblizno napisane i ako to nisi shvatio onda se zapitaj...
nogalo napisao:Meni je poker samo zabava, ali imam svoje misljenje o tome da li postati pro...
Po mom misljenju u Hrv mozes od pokera jako dobro zivjeti, ako znamo da je prosjecna placa u Hrvata jako mala, tako da vec sa 1300 - 1500$ mjesecno mozes zivjeti jako ugodno. Ja znam po sebi da sam godinu i pol zivio sa placom od 2900 kn, pa ne vidim razlog zasto ti ne bi mogao zivjeti sa 5000 do 8000 kn mjesecno... !
jel ti uopce znas koji je tecaj dolara?!
Meni je poker samo zabava, ali imam svoje misljenje o tome da li postati pro...
Po mom misljenju u Hrv mozes od pokera jako dobro zivjeti, ako znamo da je prosjecna placa u Hrvata jako mala, tako da vec sa 1300 - 1500$ mjesecno mozes zivjeti jako ugodno. Ja znam po sebi da sam godinu i pol zivio sa placom od 2900 kn, pa ne vidim razlog zasto ti ne bi mogao zivjeti sa 5000 do 8000 kn mjesecno... !
Samo ja sam siguran da niti jedan poker igrac ne bi trebao razmisljati o tome da postane pro prije nego sto nema zalihu novca sa strane, npr 30000 do 50000 kn. Na taj nacin si dajes sigurnost da i ako te potrefi 2,3 mjeseca slabije igre(tj. zarade) da imas ustedevinu kojom ces pokriti osnovne stvari kao sto su hrana, rezije...
pa vise ti se isplati regat se preko pokerpro, dobijes bonus na prvu uplatu i rakeback...
Sve drustvene igre zasticujes pri drzavnom zavodu za patente Zagreb...
Rijeseno. Hvala deco99
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