roba59 napisao:

I ja sam se izgubio... Prije sam otprilike kužio što želi reći, a sad baš i ne.

ali...
pitanje za lovca:
Kolko % plača losing player? recimo da ima -5bb/100.

Pa taj radi za poker sobu, on ne zaradi ništa. A onaj koji dobro igra zaradi sebi i poker sobi jednako.

Ti za primjer.
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/fakker11

Sa rakebackom si zaradio sebi 164k, a poker sobi si zaradio 190k-63k rakaback=127k. Jel se tako računa?
Poker sobi si zaradio 77,5% u odnosu na svoju zaradu. A ti si jedan od najboljih igrača, vjerovatno unutar 1% najboljih.

77

(5 odgovora, objavljenih u Ostala rasprava)

https://www.lutrija.hr/cms/TexasHoldemPoker
  najisplativije je tu.

roba59 napisao:
lovac forex napisao:

Znači i turniri su sranje kao i cash stolovi.

hahaha...
Ako ne želiš ništa davati kući nemoj ni igrat. Ili si uzmi rakeback pa dobiješ dio natrag.

Ništa i 100%, to dvoje se ne može uspoređivati. Znaš ti to dobro.
20-30% bi bilo puno, ali podnošljivo. 100% nikako ne može biti podnošljivo, osim ako i sam dobivaš proviziju od igrača koji plaćaju 100%.

Znači i turniri su sranje kao i cash stolovi.

Na malim cash stolovima, igrač na 100% zarade, recimo da je zarada igrača 100$,  plaća poker sobi oko 100-150$ rejka. Znači, koliko zaradi sebi, toliko zaradi i poker sobi.

Koliko se daje poker sobi kada se igraju turniri?

Problem je šta svi uhvate te outere. Ko da su šanse 80/20 za njega a ne za mene.

To je daleko od normalnog

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

BB ($11.66)
UTG (lovac forex) ($7.81)
UTG+1 ($12.03)
MP ($6.92)
MP+1 ($5.08)
CO ($5)
BTN ($6.03)
SB ($4.95)

Dealt to UTG (lovac forex)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG (lovac forex) raises to $0.1, UTG+1 folds, MP raises to $0.2, MP+1 & CO & BTN & SB & BB fold, UTG (lovac forex) raises to $0.9, MP calls $0.7

Flop: (Pot is $1.87, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png
UTG (lovac forex) bets $1.2, MP raises to $6.02 (All-In), UTG (lovac forex) calls $4.82

Turn: (Pot is $13.91, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png

River: (Pot is $13.91, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png

Showdown:
UTG (lovac forex) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
(Two Pair, Kings and Nines)

MP shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png
(Three of a Kind, Nines)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $13.91 | Rake: $0.69

Winners:
MP wins $13.22




83

(6 odgovora, objavljenih u Mali limiti)

Ili kaj sa ovim, mogao sam imati JJ, QQ, KK ,AA i frajer me prati.

PokerStars Game #52879762014:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/11/18 12:01:17 CET [2010/11/18 6:01:17 ET]
Table 'Kniertje' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Toliksson ($4.88 in chips)
Seat 2: trungyy ($5.32 in chips)
Seat 3: lovac forex ($7.97 in chips)
Seat 4: groove-lee ($17.17 in chips)
Seat 5: xJCzZ ($5 in chips)
Seat 6: BRMAT ($2.50 in chips)
Seat 7: MarioAlan ($10.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Vedist ($4.74 in chips)
Seat 9: stefan_bg_46 ($3.68 in chips)
xJCzZ: posts small blind $0.02
BRMAT: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lovac forex [Kh Ah]
MarioAlan: folds
Vedist: folds
stefan_bg_46: calls $0.05
Toliksson: folds
trungyy: folds
lovac forex: raises $0.75 to $0.80
groove-lee: calls $0.80
xJCzZ: folds
BRMAT: folds
stefan_bg_46: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 9s 5c]
lovac forex: bets $0.80
groove-lee: calls $0.80
*** TURN *** [2c 9s 5c] [6h]
lovac forex: checks
groove-lee: checks
*** RIVER *** [2c 9s 5c 6h] [Qh]
lovac forex: checks
groove-lee: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lovac forex: shows [Kh Ah] (high card Ace)
groove-lee: shows [Ts Tc] (a pair of Tens)
groove-lee collected $3.16 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.32 | Rake $0.16
Board [2c 9s 5c 6h Qh]
Seat 1: Toliksson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: trungyy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lovac forex showed [Kh Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: groove-lee (button) showed [Ts Tc] and won ($3.16) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: xJCzZ (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: BRMAT (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: MarioAlan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Vedist folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: stefan_bg_46 folded before Flop

84

(6 odgovora, objavljenih u Mali limiti)

Ništa vas ne kužim sa tim skračenicama. Imam nemogući peh. kasnije sam vidio da je protivnik profitabila, među boljima je na tim stolovima. rejzam od 8 do16 blindova. sa Ak, ovisi o situaciji.

Evo upravo se ovo odigralo.


PokerStars Game #52879557174:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/11/18 11:50:44 CET [2010/11/18 5:50:44 ET]
Table 'Mirphak V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: weeke_64 ($6.13 in chips)
Seat 2: gun roar ($5.56 in chips)
Seat 3: affalakita18 ($5.17 in chips)
Seat 4: Hytsky ($4.73 in chips)
Seat 5: TIS67 ($1.33 in chips)
Seat 6: BRMAT ($3.10 in chips)
Seat 7: eva sin ($2.79 in chips)
Seat 8: doglisor ($4.95 in chips)
Seat 9: lovac forex ($8 in chips)
doglisor: posts small blind $0.02
lovac forex: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lovac forex [6h 6c]
weeke_64: folds
gun roar: folds
affalakita18: folds
Hytsky: folds
TIS67: folds
BRMAT: raises $0.15 to $0.20
eva sin: folds
doglisor: folds
lovac forex: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [Ad 8d 6d]
lovac forex: checks
BRMAT: bets $0.30
lovac forex: raises $0.30 to $0.60
BRMAT: raises $0.80 to $1.40
lovac forex: raises $2.35 to $3.75
BRMAT: calls $1.50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.85) returned to lovac forex
*** TURN *** [Ad 8d 6d] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 8d 6d 9d] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lovac forex: shows [6h 6c] (a flush, Ace high)
BRMAT: shows [Qd Ac] (a flush, Ace high - Queen higher)
BRMAT collected $5.91 from pot
lovac forex said, "rigged"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.22 | Rake $0.31
Board [Ad 8d 6d 9d Kd]
Seat 1: weeke_64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: gun roar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: affalakita18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hytsky folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: TIS67 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BRMAT showed [Qd Ac] and won ($5.91) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: eva sin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: doglisor (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: lovac forex (big blind) showed [6h 6c] and lost with a flush, Ace high

85

(6 odgovora, objavljenih u Mali limiti)

Zguro bi flop,  to znači? da bi išao all in na flopu?

86

(6 odgovora, objavljenih u Mali limiti)

Kako je trebalo odigrati?

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

BB ($2.17)
UTG ($4.62)
UTG+1 ($2.8)
MP ($5)
CO ($10.99)
BTN ($5)
SB (lovac forex) ($8.11)

Dealt to SB (lovac forex)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP folds, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, SB (lovac forex) raises to $0.55, BB & UTG+1 fold, CO calls $0.5

Flop: (Pot is $1.2, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png
SB (lovac forex) bets $0.8, CO raises to $1.6, SB (lovac forex) calls $0.8

Turn: (Pot is $4.4, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png
SB (lovac forex) bets $3, CO raises to $6, SB (lovac forex) calls $2.96 (All-In),

River: (Pot is $16.32, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png

Showdown:
CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png
(Three of a Kind, Sixes)

SB (lovac forex) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png
(One Pair, Kings)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $16.32 | Rake: $0.8

Winners:
CO wins $15.52