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ja nebi to foldo. jedino bi se bojo da je CO seto
ja isto ne bi foldao. Ali mislim da je CO premalo vremena slabiji od tebe. Može imati samo 99 i nekad TT da bi bio slabiji od tebe, ostalo folda ili gura AI.
Ali da si manje cbetao mogao bi foldati uz manje napore.
4ladX napisao:fold turn, ocito da ima quadse.
+2
-10 = -8
c/r flop. nemoj samo callat kad je dole flush draw
+1
Maximalno si coin flip u tom slučaju, a to je rijetko.
Nemoj biti skroman, odličan rezultat!!! 
@koste- to je američki humor? 
1. hand bi odigrao isto
2. mislim da je dobar blef tu jer raisa svakakve dvopare i ina sranja na turnu ( ali s obzirom na temu koju sam nedavno otvorio ne znam kolko dobro mislim ), ali 3betao ne bih nikad PF
3. ja bi ovo snapcallao. Dajte mi objasnite logiku protiv fisha koji je još agresivan na riveru?
Uplati loto..Brzo..
+1 
22/18 3bet 6.3
cbet 50%
3way
Call pf? inače standard?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BB ($335.1)
BTN (RearAdmiral-) ($117.15)
SB ($149.85)
Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral-)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN (RearAdmiral-) raises to $3, SB folds, BB raises to $11, BTN (RearAdmiral-) calls $8
Flop: (Pot is $22.5, 2 players)
BB bets $17, BTN (RearAdmiral-) calls $17
Turn: (Pot is $56.5, 2 players)
BB bets $35, BTN (RearAdmiral-) calls $35
River: (Pot is $126.5, 2 players)
BB bets $272.1 (All-In), BTN (RearAdmiral-) calls $54.15 (All-In)
Total Pot: $452.75 | Rake: $452.75
AQ bi ja checkirao turn i onda callao jedan street i vidio što će na riveru odigrati.
Drugi hand težak za odigrat, ali mislim da bi na tim limitima napravio isto ko i ti i da ne griješiš.
Turčin digo 20$ u 1 sešnu!!!
That made my 2 minutes 
Svaka čast!!
Čestitke!!
1. Ja to uvijek nastavljam betati..
A river onda?
spade ili 9
K ili A
Q?
moj tjedan
86 hand- Kako bi drugačije eventualno odigrali? ne mislim na river call ili fold.
58 handova--- 25/18
fold to cbet 1/3
3bet: 2 od 21
Moj play na turnu po vašem mišljenju? Do koliko raizati ako CR-am. Ili možda nastavim cbetati i ako da što na riveru betam?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
UTG (RearAdmiral_) ($191)
CO ($68.4)
BTN ($114.3)
SB ($96)
BB ($227.05)
Dealt to UTG (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) raises to $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, SB & BB fold
Flop: (Pot is $9.5, 2 players)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) bets $7, BTN calls $7
Turn: (Pot is $23.5, 2 players)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $18
River: (Pot is $41.5, 2 players)
Total Pot: $41.5 | Rake: $41.5
3handed (142 handa)
25/21/7
cbet: 4 od 6
AF:4.3
Kako bi vi odigrali, mislim da sam zeznuo hand.
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($160.25)
BB ($187.05)
BTN ($182.5)
Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN raises to $3, SB (RearAdmiral_) calls $2.5, BB folds
Flop: (Pot is $7, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $5.5, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $14.5, BTN calls $9
Turn: (Pot is $36, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) bets $18, BTN calls $18
River: (Pot is $72, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $54, SB (RearAdmiral_) folds
Total Pot: $126 | Rake: $2
Winners:
BTN wins $124
Da li callate ovakve stvari protiv 28/16 ribe? pot odds su mi 15%
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
UTG (RearAdmiral_) ($98.5)
CO ($328.5)
BTN ($206.9)
SB ($130.65)
BB ($99.35)
Dealt to UTG (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) raises to $4, CO & BTN fold, SB calls $3.5, BB folds
Flop: (Pot is $9, 2 players)
SB checks, UTG (RearAdmiral_) checks
Turn: (Pot is $9, 2 players)
SB checks, UTG (RearAdmiral_) bets $7, SB calls $7
River: (Pot is $23, 2 players)
SB checks, UTG (RearAdmiral_) bets $9, SB raises to $18, UTG (RearAdmiral_) calls $9
ja bi onda malo betao, 1/3 pota. Ako me rejza me min rejza i imam odds za call. Ako ne, naplaćujem mu draw.
A osječaj je ko kad se tučeš i vidiš da te lik ide lupit šakom u glavu a ti si misliš ne ja ču njega lupit glavom u šaku i na kraju završiš na podu.
hahahaha
To je ko priča " The first punch I blocked, with my face"
Ne mora biti veći izo raise kad je in position.
5.2 je pretpostavljam 3bet kad je pasivna riba? kako znaš da je pasivan, kolko ruku točno?
Hvala na odgovorima. Probat ću neke stvari primjeniti. Ovo za "nemoj ovaj session blefati" je po meni nemoguće jer tako onda neću moći igrati poker jer je primjerice puno cbetova blef ili semiblef, probat ću u svakom slučaju ne blefati 3 streeta ili blefati samo zato jer je puno u potu.
Što se tiče K6 handa, to je bio tilt i bolio me k**** kaj villain ima. Neki handovi su stvarno groblja i znam da sam crushani, ali ne razmišljam više u tom trenutku normalno (niti približno) pa radim sranja koja samo najveći donkovi na nl2 rade.
Mislim da mi je puno pomoglo i sama stvar da sam stavio ovo na forum. Jer više sam svjestan toga nego prije i više ću imati "mind strengtha" da se suzdržim od toga.
Javit ću se nakon nekog vremena kad odigram par sessiona sa rezultatima. Možda sam i isfrustriran činjenicom da sam već 20k handova 10 BI ispod EV-a i činjenicom da runnam loše trenutno ( a moji playavi to još produbljuju ).
Ako imate još koje savjete, samo recite.
@puki- u zadnjih nekoliko sessiona sigurno nekoliko buyina. To su sve zadnja 2 ili možda 3 sessiona. Ovako se zna desiti neki neuspjeli blef ili nekad neki loš blef.
@RP- već su ti kolege forumaši sve rekli, malo čitaj prije nego pokušavaš nešto pametno reći. To mislim kao savjet, a ne napad 
1. hand- cbetaj flop oko 3/4 pota, i ovisi o protivniku opali 2nd barrel a ako ne želiš odigraš c/f dalje
2. hand- neznam zašto si ti zgurao na par 7 na turnu na njegov pot bet, ja nikad nebi mislio da sam tu jači
3. hand- wtf, ovaj call na njegov shove na flopu.... na šta si ga stavio ??
4. hand- jebote pa vidiš da samo želi izvuć što veći value, na svaki tvoj raise, on minraisea.... i na kraju bar da si foldao na zadnji njegov raise ali jebiga sad....
5.hand- a ono, ako si imao neki read call je dobar(iako mi ovaj river size bet djeluje kao neki value bet)
6. hand- sve ok, callao bi i ja, vjerojatno i tako odigraozadnja 3 handa mi se neda komentirati, ali isto postoje greške.... neznam nisam baš veliki stručnjak za cash, ali mislim da mogu pomoći... ovo svakako nek ti pogledaju roba ili netko tko je cash expert sa foruma i nek te savjetuju.... ovo je zbilja loše
Ne tražim analizu handova, ja bi mogao u većini slučajeva odigrati skoro perfektno sad sa odmakom od stolova. Stvar je u tome da tako ne igram kad imam otvorene stolove.
@puki- Da neke handove igram ovako, rekao sam, oko 2 buyina po sessionu tako zdonkam. Barem u zadnje vrijeme. Ali mislim da po sessionu mogu naći jedan primjer. Neki handovi su bili baš tilt, ali opet, nije u tiltu stvar u večini ovakvih slučajeva. A na nuli sam jer je ostatak ekipe isto loš, ali to nije bitno.
Jako mi je važno da popravim ovaj segment jer je ovo stvarno na razini donka. A trenutno nemam ideja kako.
Još 3 handa.
mala šansa da mi folda na riveru, ali ja idem blefat.
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BB ($171.45)
UTG ($100)
CO ($67.75)
BTN ($172.85)
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($167.5)
Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG folds, CO calls $1, BTN raises to $5, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $18, BB & CO fold, BTN calls $13
Flop: (Pot is $38, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN checks
Turn: (Pot is $38, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $28.5, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $70, BTN calls $41.5
River: (Pot is $178, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) bets $79.5 (All-In), BTN calls $79.5
Showdown:
BTN shows 
(Three of a Kind, Queens)
SB (RearAdmiral_) shows
(One Pair, Queens)
Total Pot: $337 | Rake: $3
Winners:
BTN wins $334
Ovaj hand samo callam s AQ, ali onda SB squeeza s 3betom od 11$, mislim si da mi je hand face up ako samo callam pa radim 4bet (a to kao nije face up) i onda mi još daje šansu da foldam jer pokazuje da je jak s malim 5betom ali ja svejedno guram, nema predaje!!!!
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
SB ($192.7)
BB ($49.45)
UTG ($271.4)
CO ($123.95)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($106.05)
Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG folds, CO raises to $3, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $3, SB raises to $13, BB & CO fold, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $25, SB raises to $55, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $106.05 (All-In), SB calls $51.05
Flop: (Pot is $216.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (Pot is $216.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (Pot is $216.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
SB shows 
(Three of a Kind, Kings)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) shows
(High Cards, Ace King high)
Total Pot: $216.1 | Rake: $3
Winners:
SB wins $213.1
Idemo igrati malo tricky. All in na riveru, nema veze koji je villanov range, možda pogodimo da je slab pa folda.
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
SB ($41.75)
BB ($100.4)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($244.5)
Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2
Flop: (Pot is $6.5, 2 players)
BB checks, BTN (RearAdmiral_) bets $5, BB calls $5
Turn: (Pot is $16.5, 2 players)
BB bets $12.5, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $12.5
River: (Pot is $41.5, 2 players)
BB bets $31, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $83, BB calls $48.9 (All-In)
Showdown:
BB shows
(Flush, King high)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) shows
(One Pair, Threes)
Total Pot: $204.4 | Rake: $2
Winners:
BB wins $199.3
BTN (RearAdmiral_) wins $3.1
Evo već mi je prekipjelo kako uporno jedan segment igre ne mogu poboljšati, nekad se stvarno osjećam ko uberdonk jer svaki hand koji protivnik igra protiv mene mislim da blefa kad me raisa ili 3beta preflop, kad 3 barella, check raisa. I onda radim tzv. hero callove koji uspiju jednom od 10 slučajeva.
S druge strane, ja konstantno blefam kad puno uložim u pot a ne dođe mi draw, kad izvodim neke uber lude tricky playeve koje bi mi jedino Hellmuth foldao, i slične pizdarije bez ikakvih readova.
Kad me netko 3beta par put zaredom nikad mu ne vjerujem, uvjek jednom od ta tri puta izvodim gluposti sa marginalnim ili jadnim handovima i to takve da izgubim maximalno love uz to da se protivnik minimalno znoji.
Uvjek si velim da ću danas igrati bolje, promjeniti te stvari, razmišljati prije nego donesem odluku, da neću raditi neke lude playeve "on misli da ja mislim da on....."
Svaki session si mogu izdvojiti oko 2 buyina koja izgubim samo zato jer radim takve stvari za stolom. već sam na 50k handova na NL100 konstantno oko nule, a igrači koji igraju na OnGameu su blagorečeno jadni.
Postat ću neke handove bez objašnjena jer sam sve već objasnio gore, a mnoge handove ne bi mogao ni objasniti jer to je sve trenutak inspiracije.
Primjećujem samo da mi uvijek fali više vremena da donesem odluku nego ga imam, a smanjio sam broj stolova na 5, i nije u broju stolova stvar nego u vremenu koje ongame ima koje mi jednostavno nije dovoljno da nekad kvalitetno odigram hand.
Dosta je handova, ali trebam to rješiti tako da hoću da shvatite o čemu govorim.
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
SB ($111.8)
BB ($349.15)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($153.15)
Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $3, SB folds, BB raises to $10, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $25, BB calls $15
Flop: (Pot is $50.5, 2 players)
BB checks, BTN (RearAdmiral_) checks
Turn: (Pot is $50.5, 2 players)
BB bets $30, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $60, BB raises to $324.15 (All-In), BTN (RearAdmiral_) folds
Total Pot: $434.65 | Rake: $2
Winners:
BB wins $432.65
Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BB ($294.65)
BTN ($548.35)
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($98)
Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN folds, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $3, BB raises to $6, SB (RearAdmiral_) calls $3
Flop: (Pot is $12, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BB bets $9, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $25, BB calls $16
Turn: (Pot is $62, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BB bets $62, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $67 (All-In), BB calls $5
River: (Pot is $196, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
BB shows
(One Pair, Kings)
SB (RearAdmiral_) shows
(One Pair, Sevens)
Total Pot: $196 | Rake: $2
Winners:
BB wins $194
Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BTN ($238.7)
SB ($428.45)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($99.5)
Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN folds, SB raises to $4, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $12, SB calls $8
Flop: (Pot is $24, 2 players)
SB bets $18, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $36, SB raises to $416.45 (All-In), BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $51.5 (All-In)
Turn: (Pot is $527.95, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (Pot is $527.95, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Showdown:
SB shows
(Three of a Kind, Jacks)
BB (RearAdmiral_) shows
(One Pair, Jacks)
Total Pot: $527.95 | Rake: $2
Winners:
SB wins $525.95
Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
SB ($91.2)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($100)
BTN ($101)
Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN raises to $3, SB folds, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $2
Flop: (Pot is $6.5, 2 players)
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $5, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $14, BTN raises to $28, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $42, BTN raises to $56, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $97 (All-In), BTN calls $41
Turn: (Pot is $200.5, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (Pot is $200.5, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
BB (RearAdmiral_) shows
(One Pair, Queens)
BTN shows 
(Full House, Queens over Sevens)
Total Pot: $200.5 | Rake: $2
Winners:
BTN wins $198.5
Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
CO ($145.75)
BTN ($28.35)
SB ($268.95)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($127.3)
UTG ($39.15)
Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG & CO & BTN fold, SB raises to $3, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $11, SB calls $8
Flop: (Pot is $22, 2 players)
SB checks, BB (RearAdmiral_) bets $11, SB calls $11
Turn: (Pot is $44, 2 players)
SB checks, BB (RearAdmiral_) checks
River: (Pot is $44, 2 players)
SB bets $22, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $22
Showdown:
SB shows
(One Pair, Nines)
BB (RearAdmiral_) has
(One Pair, Sixes)
Total Pot: $88 | Rake: $3
Winners:
SB wins $85
Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
UTG ($128.5)
CO ($177.15)
BTN ($96.2)
SB ($100.5)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($107.65)
Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG & CO fold, BTN calls $1, SB folds, BB (RearAdmiral_) checks
Flop: (Pot is $2.5, 2 players)
BB (RearAdmiral_) bets $2, BTN raises to $8.5, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $6.5
Turn: (Pot is $19.5, 2 players)
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $14, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $14
River: (Pot is $47.5, 2 players)
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $47.5, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $47.5
Showdown:
BTN shows
(One Pair, Eights)
BB (RearAdmiral_) has
(One Pair, Eights)
Total Pot: $142.5 | Rake: $3
Winners:
BTN wins $139.5
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moze puno toga znacit jer je vjerojatno ovo riba... mozda ima neku blesavu 7, neki slabiji T od tebe pa je uzbuđen, overpar JJ+, FD (zeli te otjerati jakm betom...)... nisi puno ulozio i fold je easy jer ces ionak morat igrat za stack.. kad skupis nekakav read i vidish nekakav shwdown mislim da onda mozes ici u rat sa varijancom i scallat ga dosta light
+1
Btw. Može imati 7, neki fishevi igraju baš tako da min raise naprave, pa jako betaju na sljedećem streetu s jakim handom. Može imati i QQ+ tako da je fold bolji.
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