Tema: Calling station

Evo već mi je prekipjelo kako uporno jedan segment igre ne mogu poboljšati, nekad se stvarno osjećam ko uberdonk jer svaki hand koji protivnik igra protiv mene mislim da blefa kad me raisa ili 3beta preflop, kad 3 barella, check raisa. I onda radim tzv. hero callove koji uspiju jednom od 10 slučajeva.

S druge strane, ja konstantno blefam kad puno uložim u pot a ne dođe mi draw, kad izvodim neke uber lude tricky playeve koje bi mi jedino Hellmuth foldao, i slične pizdarije bez ikakvih readova.

Kad me netko 3beta par put zaredom nikad mu ne vjerujem, uvjek jednom od ta tri puta izvodim gluposti sa marginalnim ili jadnim handovima i to takve da izgubim maximalno love uz to da se protivnik minimalno znoji.

Uvjek si velim da ću danas igrati bolje, promjeniti te stvari, razmišljati prije nego donesem odluku, da neću raditi neke lude playeve "on misli da ja mislim da on....."

Svaki session si mogu izdvojiti oko 2 buyina koja izgubim samo zato jer radim takve stvari za stolom. već sam na 50k handova na NL100 konstantno oko nule, a igrači koji igraju na OnGameu su blagorečeno jadni.

Postat ću neke handove bez objašnjena jer sam sve već objasnio gore, a mnoge handove ne bi mogao ni objasniti jer to je sve trenutak inspiracije.

Primjećujem samo da mi uvijek fali više vremena da donesem odluku nego ga imam, a smanjio sam broj stolova na 5, i nije u broju stolova stvar nego u vremenu koje ongame ima koje mi jednostavno nije dovoljno da nekad kvalitetno odigram hand.

Dosta je handova, ali trebam to rješiti tako da hoću da shvatite o čemu govorim.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

SB ($111.8)
BB ($349.15)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($153.15)

Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $3, SB folds, BB raises to $10, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $25, BB calls $15

Flop: (Pot is $50.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png
BB checks, BTN (RearAdmiral_) checks

Turn: (Pot is $50.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png
BB bets $30, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $60, BB raises to $324.15 (All-In), BTN (RearAdmiral_) folds

                                                                     
Total Pot: $434.65 | Rake: $2

Winners:
BB wins $432.65




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BB ($294.65)
BTN ($548.35)
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($98)

Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

BTN folds, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $3, BB raises to $6, SB (RearAdmiral_) calls $3

Flop: (Pot is $12, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BB bets $9, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $25, BB calls $16

Turn: (Pot is $62, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BB bets $62, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $67 (All-In), BB calls $5

River: (Pot is $196, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png

Showdown:
BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png
(One Pair, Kings)

SB (RearAdmiral_) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png
(One Pair, Sevens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $196 | Rake: $2

Winners:
BB wins $194




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BTN ($238.7)
SB ($428.45)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($99.5)

Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

BTN folds, SB raises to $4, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $12, SB calls $8

Flop: (Pot is $24, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png
SB bets $18, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $36, SB raises to $416.45 (All-In), BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $51.5 (All-In)

Turn: (Pot is $527.95, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png

River: (Pot is $527.95, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Showdown:
SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
(Three of a Kind, Jacks)

BB (RearAdmiral_) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
(One Pair, Jacks)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $527.95 | Rake: $2

Winners:
SB wins $525.95




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

SB ($91.2)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($100)
BTN ($101)

Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

BTN raises to $3, SB folds, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $2

Flop: (Pot is $6.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $5, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $14, BTN raises to $28, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $42, BTN raises to $56, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $97 (All-In), BTN calls $41

Turn: (Pot is $200.5, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png

River: (Pot is $200.5, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png

Showdown:
BB (RearAdmiral_) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png
(One Pair, Queens)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
(Full House, Queens over Sevens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $200.5 | Rake: $2

Winners:
BTN wins $198.5




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

CO ($145.75)
BTN ($28.35)
SB ($268.95)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($127.3)
UTG ($39.15)

Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG & CO & BTN fold, SB raises to $3, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $11, SB calls $8

Flop: (Pot is $22, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png
SB checks, BB (RearAdmiral_) bets $11, SB calls $11

Turn: (Pot is $44, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png
SB checks, BB (RearAdmiral_) checks

River: (Pot is $44, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
SB bets $22, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $22

Showdown:
SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png
(One Pair, Nines)

BB (RearAdmiral_) has
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png
(One Pair, Sixes)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $88 | Rake: $3

Winners:
SB wins $85




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

UTG ($128.5)
CO ($177.15)
BTN ($96.2)
SB ($100.5)
BB (RearAdmiral_) ($107.65)

Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG & CO fold, BTN calls $1, SB folds, BB (RearAdmiral_) checks

Flop: (Pot is $2.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) bets $2, BTN raises to $8.5, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $6.5

Turn: (Pot is $19.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $14, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $14

River: (Pot is $47.5, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png
BB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $47.5, BB (RearAdmiral_) calls $47.5

Showdown:
BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
(One Pair, Eights)

BB (RearAdmiral_) has
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png
(One Pair, Eights)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $142.5 | Rake: $3

Winners:
BTN wins $139.5

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Re: Calling station

Još 3 handa.
mala šansa da mi folda na riveru, ali ja idem blefat.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BB ($171.45)
UTG ($100)
CO ($67.75)
BTN ($172.85)
SB (RearAdmiral_) ($167.5)

Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG folds, CO calls $1, BTN raises to $5, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $18, BB & CO fold, BTN calls $13

Flop: (Pot is $38, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN checks

Turn: (Pot is $38, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) checks, BTN bets $28.5, SB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $70, BTN calls $41.5

River: (Pot is $178, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png
SB (RearAdmiral_) bets $79.5 (All-In), BTN calls $79.5

Showdown:
BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png
(Three of a Kind, Queens)

SB (RearAdmiral_) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png
(One Pair, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $337 | Rake: $3

Winners:
BTN wins $334



Ovaj hand samo callam s AQ, ali onda SB squeeza s 3betom od 11$, mislim si da mi je hand face up ako samo callam pa radim 4bet (a to kao nije face up) i onda mi još daje šansu da foldam jer pokazuje da je jak s malim 5betom ali ja svejedno guram, nema predaje!!!!

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

SB ($192.7)
BB ($49.45)
UTG ($271.4)
CO ($123.95)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($106.05)

Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG folds, CO raises to $3, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $3, SB raises to $13, BB & CO fold, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $25, SB raises to $55, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $106.05 (All-In), SB calls $51.05

Flop: (Pot is $216.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png

Turn: (Pot is $216.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png

River: (Pot is $216.1, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png

Showdown:
SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png
(Three of a Kind, Kings)

BTN (RearAdmiral_) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(High Cards, Ace King high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $216.1 | Rake: $3

Winners:
SB wins $213.1

Idemo igrati malo tricky. All in na riveru, nema veze koji je villanov range, možda pogodimo da je slab pa folda.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

SB ($41.75)
BB ($100.4)
BTN (RearAdmiral_) ($244.5)

Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral_)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

Flop: (Pot is $6.5, 2 players)

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BB checks, BTN (RearAdmiral_) bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: (Pot is $16.5, 2 players)

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BB bets $12.5, BTN (RearAdmiral_) calls $12.5

River: (Pot is $41.5, 2 players)

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BB bets $31, BTN (RearAdmiral_) raises to $83, BB calls $48.9 (All-In)

Showdown:
BB shows
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(Flush, King high)

BTN (RearAdmiral_) shows
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(One Pair, Threes)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $204.4 | Rake: $2

Winners:
BB wins $199.3
BTN (RearAdmiral_) wins $3.1

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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U jbt koji masakri....  big_smile   Imas i neke lineove koji izgledaju samo kao blef i nista drugo... dry i sparene blefas ko manijak, a u biti nis ne predstavljas... jos molis da te light callaju  smile  Equitya ni za zivu glavu hehe...
Nalijepi si iznad monitora da jedan sesn neces blefat pa vidi kako ide  smile

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1. hand- cbetaj flop oko 3/4 pota, i ovisi o protivniku opali 2nd barrel a ako ne želiš odigraš c/f dalje
2. hand- neznam zašto si ti zgurao na par 7 na turnu na njegov pot bet, ja nikad nebi mislio da sam tu jači
3. hand- wtf, ovaj call na njegov shove na flopu.... na šta si ga stavio ??  roll
4. hand- jebote pa vidiš da samo želi izvuć što veći value, na svaki tvoj raise, on minraisea.... i na kraju bar da si foldao na zadnji njegov raise ali jebiga sad....
5.hand- a ono, ako si imao neki read call je dobar(iako mi ovaj river size bet djeluje kao neki value bet)
6. hand- sve ok, callao bi i ja, vjerojatno i tako odigrao

zadnja 3 handa mi se neda komentirati, ali isto postoje greške.... neznam nisam baš veliki stručnjak za cash, ali mislim da mogu pomoći... ovo svakako nek ti pogledaju roba ili netko tko je cash expert sa foruma i nek te savjetuju.... ovo je zbilja loše

"Valjda mogu i ja jednom u zivotu svaki dan biti pijan"
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ajme  koje  groblje,kaj ti stvarno ovako igras?????????????
kak uspjevas  bit  na  0 !?!?!

k6 KOJi KU....
AJ na QQ7 jel uopce  razmilis  prije  neg  zguras
zasto AQ 4b i pretvaras u blef?

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Pogledaj malo handove... Iako neizgleda, imaju nešto zajedničko.
Sve handove si odigrao s kasnih pozicija - BTN++
Iako se treba igrati loose na kasnim pozicijama, ovo je preloose.
Pola ovih handova si mogao izbjeći samo da si foldao preflop. Ostalu većinu bez velikih manevara postflop i od svih ovih silnih handova ostat će ti 1-2 handa s kojima ćeš imati problem.

Tko se moli i vjeruje u Isusa Krista, Isus će ga dočekati na času njegove smrti
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dobro si uocio 6 iz blindova  i 3  sa  buttona  lol

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Evo već mi je prekipjelo kako uporno jedan segment igre ne mogu poboljšati, nekad se stvarno osjećam ko uberdonk jer svaki hand koji protivnik igra protiv mene mislim da blefa kad me raisa ili 3beta preflop, kad 3 barella, check raisa. I onda radim tzv. hero callove koji uspiju jednom od 10 slučajeva.

S druge strane, ja konstantno blefam kad puno uložim u pot a ne dođe mi draw, kad izvodim neke uber lude tricky playeve koje bi mi jedino Hellmuth foldao, i slične pizdarije bez ikakvih readova.

Kad me netko 3beta par put zaredom nikad mu ne vjerujem, uvjek jednom od ta tri puta izvodim gluposti sa marginalnim ili jadnim handovima i to takve da izgubim maximalno love uz to da se protivnik minimalno znoji.

Uvjek si velim da ću danas igrati bolje, promjeniti te stvari, razmišljati prije nego donesem odluku, da neću raditi neke lude playeve "on misli da ja mislim da on....."

Ovo mi je veoma poznato, ja sam isto ovako igrao ljetos na NL10. Kad god me netko raisa, mislim si: "Opet mi krade s airom..." callam i naravno tip me ima crushanog. Kad god promašim river obavezno pokušavam river blef koji skoro nikad ne uspijeva. Ili check-raisam cbet na sparenom boardu jer "on tu zna da ja znam da on nema ništa..." i slična sranja...

Rezultat? 15 buyinova minusa. Tek nakon toga mi je došlo do mozga šta ja to radim za stolivma sad

Dobro za tebe što si postao ovaj topic, to znači da si svjestan problema. Ja bi ovo što je rekao Bebach, zalipit si negdi warning: "No bluffs today", tako sam nekako i ja napravio...

Just admitting you are a fish is a big step forward!
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Kralju! 
Sta vas briga covjek odlucio bas bit na tiltu i jos imo muda to stavit na form!
Opet kazem...svaka cast ovo je bilo jebeno iskreno!

Zadnji popravljao hendrixjimmi (06-11-2010 14:04:24)

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PocketRockets napisao:

1. hand- cbetaj flop oko 3/4 pota, i ovisi o protivniku opali 2nd barrel a ako ne želiš odigraš c/f dalje
2. hand- neznam zašto si ti zgurao na par 7 na turnu na njegov pot bet, ja nikad nebi mislio da sam tu jači
3. hand- wtf, ovaj call na njegov shove na flopu.... na šta si ga stavio ??  roll
4. hand- jebote pa vidiš da samo želi izvuć što veći value, na svaki tvoj raise, on minraisea.... i na kraju bar da si foldao na zadnji njegov raise ali jebiga sad....
5.hand- a ono, ako si imao neki read call je dobar(iako mi ovaj river size bet djeluje kao neki value bet)
6. hand- sve ok, callao bi i ja, vjerojatno i tako odigrao

zadnja 3 handa mi se neda komentirati, ali isto postoje greške.... neznam nisam baš veliki stručnjak za cash, ali mislim da mogu pomoći... ovo svakako nek ti pogledaju roba ili netko tko je cash expert sa foruma i nek te savjetuju.... ovo je zbilja loše

Ne tražim analizu handova, ja bi mogao u većini slučajeva odigrati skoro perfektno sad sa odmakom od stolova. Stvar je u tome da tako ne igram kad imam otvorene stolove.

@puki- Da neke handove igram ovako, rekao sam, oko 2 buyina po sessionu tako zdonkam. Barem u zadnje vrijeme. Ali mislim da po sessionu mogu naći jedan primjer. Neki handovi su bili baš tilt, ali opet, nije u tiltu stvar u večini ovakvih slučajeva. A na nuli sam jer je ostatak ekipe isto loš, ali to nije bitno.

Jako mi je važno da popravim ovaj segment jer je ovo stvarno na razini donka. A trenutno nemam ideja kako.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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pa  prestani se  nadigravat  onda  toliko,2  BI po sessionu je  jako puno, neznam jesi tu malo pretjerao il je  ozbiljno tako ..
daj mi sam reci kaj je  bilo sa K6? zasto ostavit  covjeku jos  pol BI? ovo mi stvarno nema  nikakvog  objasnjenja
i da  na  ongameu nema  dovoljno vremena  za  odluku ..
mene trenutno pere downswing  ispusio 10 BI,nevejrojatno mi je  to na  ongameu,kad  te  ide onda  te  fakat  sere  brutalno i osjecas  se  ko da  si na  vrhu svijeta i da  mozes  ic  igrat  nl1000, a onda  dode oni dani kad  imas  osjecaj da  nemozes  beatat nl30.. mislim tak je  na  svim sajtovima   sam kaj se ovdje  nemre  igrat  tak veliki broj ruku ko drugdje  pa  fakat  ubija  u pojam kad  kaj god napravis i kaj god  imas  nikad  nije  dobro..

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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puki86 napisao:

kad  te  ide onda  te  fakat  sere  brutalno i osjecas  se  ko da  si na  vrhu svijeta i da  mozes  ic  igrat  nl1000, a onda  dode oni dani kad  imas  osjecaj da  nemozes  beatat nl30.. mislim tak je  na  svim sajtovima   sam kaj se ovdje  nemre  igrat  tak veliki broj ruku ko drugdje  pa  fakat  ubija  u pojam kad  kaj god napravis i kaj god  imas  nikad  nije  dobro..

Poznat osjećaj.

@Admiral: jednostavno nemoj izvoditi takve playeve. Riba če teško pustiti hand ako je pogodila bilo koji dio flopa. Odustani od ruke ako dobiješ rejz na flopu u 3betanom potu a imaš zrak, ne ispucavaj 2nd barele protiv pasivnog cs-a. Bolje izgubit $30 i foldat nego cijeli stack da bi sam sebe uvjerio da te nije zblefo.

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Rear_Admiral napisao:

Primjećujem samo da mi uvijek fali više vremena da donesem odluku nego ga imam, a smanjio sam broj stolova na 5, i nije u broju stolova stvar nego u vremenu koje ongame ima koje mi jednostavno nije dovoljno da nekad kvalitetno odigram hand.

Ovo je vrlo važno. Ako nemaš vremena za odigrati hand, odigraj ga onda straightforward. Kad dosta blefaš (kvalitetno) treba ti puno vremena da razmisliš koji je točno protivnikov range i da li može baciti večinu tog range-a. Nemog blefati kad nisi siguran što bi protivnik mogao imati. Isto tako nemoj blefati donkove.

Ako često misliš da kad te netko 3beta da sere, nemoj raditi playeve s handovima koji su crap za 3betane i 4betane potove.
Callaj ga s TT, JJ i AQ i igraj postflop. Callaj mu 3bet s QQ+. 4betaj handove s blockerima za njegov hand. Tipa Ax. Ax je blocker za AA i AK (znači manje ih ima u njegovom range-u), a opet, ako dobiješ call, možeš lakše odigrati hand i lakše ga natkupiti (ako recimo calla s TT i JJ).

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meni je AJ najjaci  :card_heart

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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AJ je vrh

BTN bets $5, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $14, BTN raises to $28, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $42, BTN raises to $56, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $97 (All-In)

lol  lol

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Brky napisao:

AJ je vrh

BTN bets $5, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $14, BTN raises to $28, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $42, BTN raises to $56, BB (RearAdmiral_) raises to $97 (All-In)

lol  lol

fold equity  cool

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Bebach napisao:

U jbt koji masakri....  big_smile   Imas i neke lineove koji izgledaju samo kao blef i nista drugo... dry i sparene blefas ko manijak, a u biti nis ne predstavljas... jos molis da te light callaju  smile

Baš to. A nekad sila nije dovoljna da se protivnika izbije iz pota. I prije ce nekad na value bet foldat a na tvoj tysonov pristup callat.

Jebiga i ja isto tako igran pa zato i ne igran cash.

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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ne igram 6max nitfest pa ti ne mogu reći ništa o 3way handovima, no iz blind vs blind situacija mogu ti reći da bi u tvom najboljem interesu bilo držati se podalje od heads up još dugo vremena. nisi uspio zasrati baš svaku odluku ali si to dovoljno dobro obavio da bi bilo koji prosječni 200 NL HU reg imao 5ptbb/100 protiv tebe

recimo c/r na K32 s 97 je bio u redu ali kad pokupiš par to može biti ili all-in ili c/f, nemoj si misliti da si turnao jackpot. S druge strane u K6 i A6 si zajebo preflop, to su sasvim dobri handovi za flatcall, 3bet je bacanje novaca u vjetar. A6 je još u redu odigran postflop (makar ja to vjerojatno ne bih cbetao u 3bet potu s readovima protiv regulara), ali c/r/call s K6 mislim koji kurac ti misliš da postižeš s tim. Daj se saberi i igraj malo 10NL dobro će ti doći da se naučiš povremeno koristiti mozak a ne ego kad igraš

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RP napisao:

. Daj se saberi i igraj malo 10NL dobro će ti doći da se naučiš povremeno koristiti mozak a ne ego kad igraš

lol...pa posta je niti 10 ruku ti vec sudiš o njegovoj igri...nebi da niko od nas nema par ovakvih suludih handova od 100k+ odigranih...

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RP napisao:

Daj se saberi i igraj malo 10NL dobro će ti doći da se naučiš povremeno koristiti mozak a ne ego kad igraš

Isuse pa covjek je iz tisuce ruku izvuko par ruku, gdje mu popusti koncentracija i opali 3 barela blefa ili odigra kao da ima nutz do kraja!
Pa fino je napisao da zna izvodi gluposti i nije uopce trazio analizu jebenih handova, nego je priznao da ima taj period kad napravi gluposti i izgubi stack kojeg je recimo prije dobio na jako dobro odigran nacin!
Treba imat muda ovo postat a i svima nam se zagubi ovako neki ludi play!

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Hvala na odgovorima. Probat ću neke stvari primjeniti. Ovo za "nemoj ovaj session blefati" je po meni nemoguće jer tako onda neću moći igrati poker jer je primjerice puno cbetova blef ili semiblef, probat ću u svakom slučaju ne blefati 3 streeta ili blefati samo zato jer je puno u potu.

Što se tiče K6 handa, to je bio tilt i bolio me k**** kaj villain ima. Neki handovi su stvarno groblja i znam da sam crushani, ali ne razmišljam više u tom trenutku normalno (niti približno) pa radim sranja koja samo najveći donkovi na nl2 rade.

Mislim da mi je puno pomoglo i sama stvar da sam stavio ovo na forum. Jer više sam svjestan toga nego prije i više ću imati "mind strengtha" da se suzdržim od toga.

Javit ću se nakon nekog vremena kad odigram par sessiona sa rezultatima. Možda sam i isfrustriran činjenicom da sam već 20k handova 10 BI ispod EV-a i činjenicom da runnam loše trenutno ( a moji playavi to još produbljuju ).

Ako imate još koje savjete, samo recite.
@puki- u zadnjih nekoliko sessiona sigurno nekoliko buyina. To su sve zadnja 2 ili možda 3 sessiona. Ovako se zna desiti neki neuspjeli blef ili nekad neki loš blef.
@RP- već su ti kolege forumaši sve rekli, malo čitaj prije nego pokušavaš nešto pametno reći. To mislim kao savjet, a ne napad  wink

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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Joj točno znam kak ti je i ovo što si napisao kao da sam i sam pisao.Krenulo mi se događat sad početkom 10 mjeseca kad je krenuo downswing sad to više ne mogu kontrolirat,iste pogreške isto glupo razmišljanje "on misli da ja mislim da on....." . A osječaj je ko kad se tučeš i vidiš da te lik ide lupit šakom u glavu a ti si misliš ne ja ču njega lupit glavom u šaku i na kraju završiš na podu.

Zadnji popravljao koste (07-11-2010 18:47:57)

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koste napisao:

A osječaj je ko kad se tučeš i vidiš da te lik ide lupit šakom u glavu a ti si misliš ne ja ču njega lupit glavom u šaku i na kraju završiš na podu.

hahahaha  lol lol  lol
To je ko priča " The first punch I blocked, with my face" big_smile

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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