2,001

(386 odgovora, objavljenih u Ostala rasprava)

roba59 napisao:

Zamisli igrača koji nikad ne calla. Već folda sve osim TP-a, a TP beta ili rejza. Taj će uvijek imati beskonačan AF. I ti ćeš misliti da blefa cjelo vrijeme. Ili još gore, zamisli da folda sve osim 2 para +.

U ovome je bit, ali pitanje je kako to primijeniti u igri? Tj. da li je moguće ikakav pametan zaključak donijeti iz AF-a, tipa ovo šta ti kažeš roba iz AFQ-a:

roba59 napisao:

ako je na riveru  oko 20%  onda nikad ne blefa (na riveru)
Ako je oko 30% onda blefa svaki busted FD (generalno, voli blefati na riveru)
Ako mu je oko 25% onda pametno blefa river..

p.s. sry puki šta spamam temu sa tekstovima.

2,002

(386 odgovora, objavljenih u Ostala rasprava)

roba59 napisao:

Očito sam i ja progriješio što se tiče razmišljanja o AF-u. Ali u kombinaciji s AFQ dobro radi...

Ja više ne kužim kako interpretirati AF ili AFQ.

Aggression Factor:

(# of bets + # of raises) / (# of calls)

Aggression Frequency:

(# of bets + # of raises) / (# of bets + # of raises + # of calls + # of folds)

Sa P2P of AF-u (sry puki, nadam se da se ne ljutiš šta spamam temu smile )

AF – Agression Factor is the 3rd of the typical PT stat trinity. Almost everyone uses AF (along w/ VPIP and PFR) to describe players, yet AF is probably the most misunderstood and misapplied commonly used Poker Tracker stat. So what is AF? As I mentioned above, AF = (bet% + raise%)/call%, but what does this really give us? Well the resulting number gives us a way to analyze how aggressive a certain player is. By looking at the formula, it is plain to see that betting ang raising increases our AF, while calling lowers it. Seems pretty simple right? Wrong! AF, can not be viewed in a vacuum as it relies heavily on other factors such as VPIP, Fold Flop% and WTSD% and is very relative to a player’s “style”. Let’s look at some examples:

We have 2 players at our table which have the following stats over the same amount of hands (let’s basically ignore convergance issues, and assume the sample in converged):

Player A : 13/10.5/2.5 (VPIP/PFR/AF)
Player B : 75/9/1

Now if we just looked at AF alone, one would think that Player A is more aggressive since his/her AF is 3. But is that really the case? Player A has a VPIP of 15 which basically is a range of 77+,A8s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KJo+. Note that I do understand that there is a difference between what a 13 VPIP player is playing and just the raw top 13% of hands. I do not want to adjust the range due to player tendancies, but thankfully it is not needed for this execise. Player A has a very small range compared to Player B, who at a VPIP of 75%, sits with a range of 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,83s+,73s+,63s+,5 2s+,43s,A2o+,K2o+,Q2o+,J4o+,T6o+,96o+,86o+,75o+,65 o. Player A also has an AF 2.5 times that of Player B. Is he really 2.5 times as aggressive? Well the answer is MAYBE, BUT PROBABLY NOT! I can already hear your thoughts, “Wait… maybe?”. If Player B was as fit/fold as he is loose, then he will be folding a ton of his range on the flop. If he folds his additional 60% of played hands, plus he folds just as often as Player B does with his top 15%, then yes, Player B would be 3 times as aggressive. The reason I say probably not is because you will hardly ever find a player that plays so loose PF (75 VPIP), yet folds so very much on the flop.

Player A is almost always going to be the aggressor heading into the flop because he plays so few hands, but most of the hands he does play, he is playing strong PF with a raise. It’s pretty easy see that having such a small range of hands (all very strong/premium) will result in someone betting or raising 2.5 times as much as they call. Having such a strong range, this player will also not have to rely on a good flop to continue betting and raising. Compare that thought process to Player B now. Player B must be very aggressive if he is betting and raising at the same clip as he is calling. He is going to be betting and raising very often (equally often as calling if AF = 1) which will be extremely difficult with such a wide range of hands unless of course he is folding a ton of the flop as I mentioned earlier. The above example shows how AF is relative to playing styles in relation to VPIP and Fold Flop %. WTSD% is another stat which can have a pretty significant impact on a player’s AF. Obviously, the more a player makes it to SD, the more opportunities the player will have to bet/raise/call/fold. Players with high WTSD numbers have to work harder (be more aggressive?) to keep their AF from dropping. These types of players will be very good at value betting, or very bluffy, or just stubborn (bet/raise several barrels throughout entire hands).

A typical TAG player will have an AF between 1.5 and 2.5. 6max players should be very careful not to spew by being over aggressive just because it is shorthanded, while FR players must contend with seeing flops with potentially more people. FR players will be playing less hands and raising less PF than if they were playing 6max, thus actually making it easier to keep their AF up. Since we typically do not consider preflop when discussing AF, FR and 6max AFs will be fairly similar.

AF convergence is another interesting topic. One could assume that because there a many decision possibilities in each individual hand, that AF would converge faster than VPIP or PFR. The problem here is that the “type” of hand can have a huge impact on AF of smaller sample sizes of hands. Imagine a player flops a set and gets to raise/cap the flop, bet/3bet the turn and bet the river. This player has had 5 actions and bet them all. If this player is tight and aggressive, it will take a while for his AF to normalize. The more aggressive the player, the longer it will take for his AF to become something truly comprehendable, while a very passive player will typically show a quicker stabilization.

Are there other ways to measure a player’s aggression? I’m sure there are, but I’m not gonna address any approaches here, though it would be a great topic to cover, even if only in a thread for exploratory ideas. I would contend that any method should take folds and WTSD% into consideration.

So in conclusion, not all similar AFs are ACTUALLY similar and not all sub-1.25 AFs = passive.

2,003

(386 odgovora, objavljenih u Ostala rasprava)

Imaš pravo puki. Ustvari, taj AF sam za sebe ne znači ama baš ništa (sada sam se sjetio eScovog posta kada jer rekao da je AF beskoristan). Pogledajte u mom zadnjem postu zadnju boldanu rečenicu.
Očito treba koristiti AF u kombinaciji kako kaže roba sa AFQ i onda možemo dobiti neki info o villainu.

2,004

(386 odgovora, objavljenih u Ostala rasprava)

   
Aggression Factor

Agression Factor, or AF, is a ratio (not a percentage) which describes the nature of a player's bets.

The formula for any given street is ( (bets + raises) / calls ) .

Bets, raises, and calls are all "money bets." Bets and raises, however, are aggressive (increasing the cost of playing) and calls are passive. Checks and folds are not in the equation because they are not bets.

An AF of 1.0 implies that the person makes bets about as often as they call bets.

Generally speaking, an AF dropping below .75 is to getting passive; many poor players online have AF's of .7 or lower. An AF over 1.5 or so is generally getting aggressive.
What does it mean to me?

Someone with a very low AF who bets or raises is very likely to have the strength they represent. You must respect their bet when deciding how to play your hand.

Someone with a very high AF is liable to be bluffing or semi-bluffing much of the time. You might call or raise back more liberally.
More to it than that

There's an important subtlelty to understand regarding AF vis-a-vis someone's looseness. A rock who only sees the flop 15% of the time and folds the flop 50% of the time may produce an AF of 3.0 by merely betting legitimate hands. Because they are so tight, they nearly always have a pair or high cards when they come in. Consequently, the 3.0 AF doesn't actually suggest excessive agression. The mere fact that they're on one of the few hands they didn't fold tells you they are holding strong cards; StraighforwardPlay will lead to a lot of bets and raises.

On the other hand, someone who sees the flop 75% of the time who has a 1.5 AF is ridiculously aggressive. Someone seeing almost every flop can't possibly be catching their cards that often, so a high AF tells you they must be bluffing and semi-bluffing, probably too often.

Someone's AF for a given street does not tell you how likely they are to bet. However, if they do put money up, it describes the kind of money. Bets made by a passive player are very likely to be legitimate. Bets made by a very aggressive player may also be bluffs, semi-bluffs, or marginal value bets.

Consider someone who bets 25% of the time, raises 15 % of the time, and calls 10% (the rest of the time they check or fold.) Their AF is 4.0. ((25+15)/10)

Compare to someone who bets 35% of the time, raises 20% of the time, and calls 30% of the time. Their AF is 1.833. ((35+20)/30)

The second person is a lot more likely to bet or raise -- they do it 55% of the time, far more than the first player's 40% of the time -- yet their AF is lower, because they call so much more loosely -- three time as often!

Generally speaking, you should adjust your perception of their AF based on how often they fold up to that point. If they fold a lot, that high AF doesn't mean they are they are all that aggressive, and if they rarely fold, a low AF may not mean every bet is legitimate.

2,005

(386 odgovora, objavljenih u Ostala rasprava)

Mislim da krivo razmišljaš puki. AF se računa (b+r)/c ali na broj handova. Tako da je svejedno koliki mu je VPIP.

2,006

(787 odgovora, objavljenih u Pitaj profića)

roba59 napisao:

Jel vi to mislite da neću stiči?

Jok, pa nebi više pričali sa tobom da si nas zavlačio godinu dana sa pričom o SNE tongue

2,007

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

Thx svima na komentarima smile

2,008

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

Ne sjećam se sada da li je prvi puta 3betao ovaj session. Znam da je thinking player i da voli 3betat, pogotovo Ax kada ima poziciju. Zato sam i mislio da je call ok. Ako 4betam če mi foldat takve handove, sa jačim me može trappat ili shovat.

Koji range bi callali u toj poziciji?

2,009

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

Pretpostavljam da me vidi kao 22/17, f3bet 70%.

Edit:
Zašto fold?

2,010

(59 odgovora, objavljenih u Staking)

niveaformen napisao:

uzimam svih 30%, poslo na starse!

Kasniš, ja sam prvi!

2,011

(20 odgovora, objavljenih u Hvalisanja, porazi, varijanca)

Može 30%? big_smile

Čestitam!

2,012

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

Biser smile

2,013

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

roba59 napisao:

Možeš taj flop i check rejzati jer nema jakih aseva puno u range-u.

Sve ostalo ok.

I protiv dvojice u potu? Da smo HU bi sigurno c/r.

roba59 napisao:

shove je najbolji play po meni

Ok, to sam i napravio.

Hvala roba.

2,014

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

1k handova 26/20 3bet 10

____________________                  

Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BTN ($24.84)
SB ($49.37)
BB ($4.7)
UTG (hero) ($30.5)

Dealt to UTG (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (hero) raises to $0.85, BTN raises to $2.9, SB & BB fold, UTG (hero) calls $2.05

Flop: (Pot is $6.15, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png
UTG (hero) checks, BTN bets $4.1

Turn: (Pot is $10.25, 2 players)


River: (Pot is $10.25, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $10.25 | Rake: $10.25




2,015

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

Samo 50 handova imam na njemu. Flop ok? River call ok?

____________________                  

Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BB (hero) ($25)
UTG ($16.61)
MP ($27.01)
CO ($31.97)
BTN ($26.9)
SB ($24.75)

Dealt to BB (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG calls $0.25, MP & CO & BTN fold, SB calls $0.15, BB (hero) checks

Flop: (Pot is $0.75, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png
SB checks, BB (hero) checks, UTG bets $0.4, SB folds, BB (hero) calls $0.4

Turn: (Pot is $1.55, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png
BB (hero) checks, UTG bets $0.65, BB (hero) raises to $2.79, UTG calls $2.14

River: (Pot is $7.13, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png
BB (hero) bets $7.13, UTG raises to $13.17 (All-In), BB (hero) calls $6.04

Showdown:
BB (hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png
(Straight, Six high)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $33.47 | Rake: $1.67

Winners:
UTG wins $31.8

2,016

(1 odgovora, objavljenih u Zabava)

Došao Suljo pecati u Hrvatsku, gdje je inače pecanje zabranjeno. Ribe k'o pijeska. Zacas navadio punu kantu ribe i taman je ponio, kad - rotacija. Drot.

Policajac: Gospodine, ovdje je pecanje zabranjeno. Morat cete krivicno odgovarati  za te ribe.
Suljo: Ovo su moje ribe.
Policajac: Kako?
Suljo: Fino. Ovo su moje ribe. Ja ih svako jutro donesem ovdje na jezero,  pustim ih da se malo isplivaju, poslije ih zovnem, one se fino vrate u  kantu, nosim ih kuci i sve tako. Hocete li da vam pokazem?

Policajac: Hajde.

Suljo istrese ribe u jezero. Tajac nekoliko sekundi.

Policajac: Hajde sad.
Suljo: Sta?
Policajac: Pa zovni ih.
Suljo: Koga?
Policajac: Pa ribe.
Suljo: Koje ribe?

2,017

(4 odgovora, objavljenih u Zabava)

Kocka napisao:

pritisnes gumb? big_smile

big_smile

2,018

(4 odgovora, objavljenih u Zabava)

Da vas čujem.

Kako se u Hrvatskoj zove lift?

2,019

(13 odgovora, objavljenih u Sit and Go)

hendrixjimmi napisao:

postoji li sto teže od NL25?

FYP

Ontopic, ne igram SNG, ali mislim da je ovo fold.

2,020

(5 odgovora, objavljenih u Zabava)

Radi se o jednom privatniku (zanatliji), koji je povodom  radne nezgode  uputio ispunjen formular svom osiguravajućem zavodu za
preuzimanje nastalih troškova. Sve ovo se dogodilo u Švicarskoj gdje se ovaj događaj mogao pročitati u Zuricher Kosmos-u.
U tom formularu oštećeni  je, na pitanje načina događanja te nezgode naveo, da je NEPLANIRANO odreagirao u jednom trenutku.
Takav iskaz  je za SUVI (Švajcarski osiguravajući zavod za Privatnike) bio dosta neprecizan, tako da su službenici iz osiguranja zamolili privatnika
da im to malo  detaljnije objasni, jer je neophodno za daljnje razmatranje...

Zanatlija odgovara na tu molbu sljedeće:
Cijenjene Dame i Gospodo, u odgovaranju na vašu molbu za dobivanje dodatnih informacija mogu vam sljedeće reći:
Kod pitanja 3 u formularu naveo sam neplanirano reagiranje kao uzrok nesreće.
Zamolili ste me da vam to pojasnim, što ovim putem želim učiniti.
Kao što već znate, po zanimanju sam krovopokrivač.
Tog kobnog dana nalazio sam se sam na krovu jedne šesterokatnice. Kada sam završio sa svojim poslom imao sam 250kg crijepova viška na krovu
koje je trebalo snijeti. Pošto nisam imao namjeru da ih u bezbroj navrata nosim stepenicama, odlučio sam da ih stavim u veliku kantu.
Kanta koja inače služi za dizanje ili spuštanje tereta na visine.
Sišao sam na dno i vukao sam konopac preko role dok nisam digao kantu, koja je bila vezana za isti, na visinu  na kojoj mi je trebala.
Konopac sam naknadno čvorom vezao i time sam stabilizirao kantu na visini šestog kata.
Nakon toga sam otišao na krov i natovario kantu da bi poslije toga sišao dolje.
Odvezao sam konopac u namjeri da kontrolirano spustim kantu koju sam natovario sa 250kg crijepova.
Ako pročitate pitanje broj 11 iz prethodnog formulara, ustanovićete da sam u to vrijeme vagao nekih 75kg.
Vrlo iznenadjen povodom gubljenja dna pod nogama, izgubio sam 'duhovnu prisebnost' i zaboravio u svoj toj frci da ispustim konopac iz ruku.
Mogu reći da u tom trenutku nisam bio pri sebi. Mislim da ovdje ne treba navoditi da sam velikom brzinom išao prema gore.
Otprilike u visini 3. kata sam se sreo s kantom (uh).. . Taj susret objašnjava frakturu lubanje i lom ključne kosti. . .
Neznatno sporije nastavio sam putanju ka vrhu i tek sam se zaustavio kad su mi vrhovi prstiju upali u rolu koja je označavala najvišu točku.
Bol koji ne mogu da vam opišem je ujedno zadužen za lomljenje  3 prsta i dva nokta.
Mimo svih bolova, ja ne gubim svoju prisebnost  i održavam se na konopcu, kojeg ne smijem ispustiti iz ruku ni pod koju cijenu.
Kanta, koja je u međuvremenu stigla na cilj, pod jačinom udara izbija i lomi svoje dno. Time dolazi do izpražnjivanja iste...
Kao što rekoh u prošlom formularu kod točke 11, vagao sam 75kg i samim time znatno teži od prazne kante u tom trenutku. Kao što
već možete da zamislite,  počeo je veoma brz silazak..
U visini 3. kata sam ponovo sreo kantu ovaj put odozdo dolazeći.
Susret koji kao posljedice nosi sljedeće: slomljeni zglobovi na obe noge, lom lijevog koljena i ogrebotine po nogama i rukama.
Ovaj put znatno usporen nastavio sam putanju ka dnu, gdje sam pri prizemljivanju na izlomljene crijepove slomio 3 pršljena,
bol koji nisam ni registrirao...
Dok sam tako ležao dolje, sav izlomljen na izlomljenim crijepovima i posmatrao kantu koja je bez dna visila na visini šestog kata,
ostao sam ponovo bez svoje 'duhovne prisutnosti' i pustio sam konopac.
Ovaj put je kanta bez ikakvih zastoja krenula ka meni i izbila mi 3 zuba i slomila nos..
Vrlo mi je žao zbog svega ovoga i nadam se da sam vam ovim olakšao buduće razmatranje .
U slučaju da vam nedostaju precizniji detalji, spreman sam da vam stojim na raspolaganju.,

2,021

(301 odgovora, objavljenih u Projekti, izazovi, blogovi)

Najs hends srs.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

MP ($28.62)
CO ($27.74)
BTN ($8.51)
SB (hero) ($25)
BB ($31.55)
UTG ($12.21)

Dealt to SB (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB (hero) raises to $2, BB calls $1.65, UTG calls $1.65, MP & BTN fold

Flop: (Pot is $6.3, 3 players)

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SB (hero) bets $3.7, BB raises to $7.4, UTG raises to $10.31 (All-In), SB (hero) raises to $23.1 (All-In), BB calls $15.7

Turn: (Pot is $62.81, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png

River: (Pot is $62.81, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png

Showdown:
SB (hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(One Pair, Aces)

BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
(Three of a Kind, Kings)

UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png
(Two Pair, Sevens and Sixes)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $62.81 | Rake: $3.1

Winners:
BB wins $59.71




2,022

(8 odgovora, objavljenih u Poker Transakcije)

Roba če mislit došli obožavatelji, a krac, ono ekipa prodaje tomato bonove.

2,023

(27 odgovora, objavljenih u Turniri)

Max niti s tobom više ne pričam.

2,024

(39 odgovora, objavljenih u Ostala rasprava)

Desni klik na desktop, Properties, kartica Settings. Tamo podešavaš. Ali probaj samo spojit monitor an laptop i resetirati komp, trebao bi sam složiti. Ako ne uspiješ javi se na skype (dfable) pa ti pomognem.

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(16 odgovora, objavljenih u Hvalisanja, porazi, varijanca)

Veći PF 3bet jer si OOP, nemoj checkirati flop, bet 3/4. Već kada si checkirao, rejzaj.