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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Ok, thx roba.

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Najs hends srs.

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

MP ($28.62)
CO ($27.74)
BTN ($8.51)
SB (hero) ($25)
BB ($31.55)
UTG ($12.21)

Dealt to SB (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB (hero) raises to $2, BB calls $1.65, UTG calls $1.65, MP & BTN fold

Flop: (Pot is $6.3, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png
SB (hero) bets $3.7, BB raises to $7.4, UTG raises to $10.31 (All-In), SB (hero) raises to $23.1 (All-In), BB calls $15.7

Turn: (Pot is $62.81, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png

River: (Pot is $62.81, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png

Showdown:
SB (hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(One Pair, Aces)

BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
(Three of a Kind, Kings)

UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png
(Two Pair, Sevens and Sixes)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $62.81 | Rake: $3.1

Winners:
BB wins $59.71




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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Samo 50 handova imam na njemu. Flop ok? River call ok?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BB (hero) ($25)
UTG ($16.61)
MP ($27.01)
CO ($31.97)
BTN ($26.9)
SB ($24.75)

Dealt to BB (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG calls $0.25, MP & CO & BTN fold, SB calls $0.15, BB (hero) checks

Flop: (Pot is $0.75, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png
SB checks, BB (hero) checks, UTG bets $0.4, SB folds, BB (hero) calls $0.4

Turn: (Pot is $1.55, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png
BB (hero) checks, UTG bets $0.65, BB (hero) raises to $2.79, UTG calls $2.14

River: (Pot is $7.13, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png
BB (hero) bets $7.13, UTG raises to $13.17 (All-In), BB (hero) calls $6.04

Showdown:
BB (hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png
(Straight, Six high)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $33.47 | Rake: $1.67

Winners:
UTG wins $31.8

Zadnji popravljao dfable (29-11-2010 14:36:47)

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Možeš taj flop i check rejzati jer nema jakih aseva puno u range-u.

Sve ostalo ok.

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

1k handova 26/20 3bet 10

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BTN ($24.84)
SB ($49.37)
BB ($4.7)
UTG (hero) ($30.5)

Dealt to UTG (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (hero) raises to $0.85, BTN raises to $2.9, SB & BB fold, UTG (hero) calls $2.05

Flop: (Pot is $6.15, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png
UTG (hero) checks, BTN bets $4.1

Turn: (Pot is $10.25, 2 players)


River: (Pot is $10.25, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $10.25 | Rake: $10.25




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Re: dfable NL25 stake

shove je najbolji play po meni

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

roba59 napisao:

Možeš taj flop i check rejzati jer nema jakih aseva puno u range-u.

Sve ostalo ok.

I protiv dvojice u potu? Da smo HU bi sigurno c/r.

roba59 napisao:

shove je najbolji play po meni

Ok, to sam i napravio.

Hvala roba.

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

dfable napisao:

I protiv dvojice u potu? Da smo HU bi sigurno c/r.

pa SB je foldao kad si ti bio na akciji za c/r

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Biser smile

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

AQs nebi bilo lose ni 4betat ovdje ponekad (agro btn lik, card removal...) IP vise volim call,a ovdje vecinom moras foldat na cbet ak nis ne pogodis  neutral  U biti mozes i callat ak ces shovat na njegov cbet na dobrom rainbow flopu

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Bebach napisao:

AQs nebi bilo lose ni 4betat ovdje ponekad (agro btn lik, card removal...) IP vise volim call,a ovdje vecinom moras foldat na cbet ak nis ne pogodis  neutral  U biti mozes i callat ak ces shovat na njegov cbet na dobrom rainbow flopu

kao blef ili za  za  value?

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Ah, pitanje je kolko 3beta UTG rejzera... Sigurno puno manje od 10%. Ja bi čak foldao ovo.
A ak imam AQ OOP protiv lika koji me 3beta puno, radije ću callati ak su suited, a offsuit pretvoriti u bluff (ako dovoljno folda na 4bet).

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

da i ja mislim da je fold preflop legitiman ovdje, bez obzira što je lik na dovoljnom uzorku agresivan ali po statsima se čini dobar i vjerojatno nebi tebe (pošto te valjda smatra regom) ovdje baš bez handa 3b

When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Pretpostavljam da me vidi kao 22/17, f3bet 70%.

Edit:
Zašto fold?

Zadnji popravljao dfable (29-11-2010 16:31:19)

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

dfable napisao:

Zašto fold?

Zato jer si OOP.
Pitanje je kolko te puta do sad 3betao... Ako te je često do sad, onda je call ok. Ali ako mu je to prvi 3bet ovaj session onda je easy fold.

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Da AQ bi bio za bluff kad bi se 4betalo jer si ionak flip vs njegovog cijelog 3bet rangea . Al bez readova mislim da je najsigurniji fold... jer  kazem da je OOP jako tesko igrat i da treba imati dobar plan za hand (nemos samo callat i cekat neki AQx ili Axx flop i nadat se u potonjem da lik nema AK kada idu pare unutra, s tim da i Qxx flop daje velike muke jer moze villian imati QQ+)  smile  Zato sam i predlozio line sa callom prflop i shoveom  na flopu ak je flop ugodan i villian cbeta jako puno u 3betanim...

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Ne sjećam se sada da li je prvi puta 3betao ovaj session. Znam da je thinking player i da voli 3betat, pogotovo Ax kada ima poziciju. Zato sam i mislio da je call ok. Ako 4betam če mi foldat takve handove, sa jačim me može trappat ili shovat.

Koji range bi callali u toj poziciji?

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

dfable napisao:

Koji range bi callali u toj poziciji?

OOP se u pravilu ne calla ništa. Zato jer je superteško igrati postflop. Ali nekad moraš i callati. A to je u situacijama kad te isti protivnik isti session neprestano 3beta i misliš da će te nekad zgurati na blef ako ga 4betaš, a misliš da nemožeš callati shove.

Recimo ako imaš AQ, dobiješ 3bet i misliš da će te shovati s parovima i AK i AQ. Tad je bolje callati jer ako callaš shove si flip ili crushani.
Ili ako imaš protivnika koji voli barelati u 3betanim potovima, a folda na 4bet. Onda je dobro callati i s AA i KK, a i s TT, JJ i AQ.

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

mislim da  je  call najbolja  opcija, neznam jeste  primjetili al igra  se  4-handed a  tad ekipa  masovno pocne  3b,tak da  nebi ovo foldao..
u prijevodu , mislim da  si odigrao dobro  wink

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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puki86 napisao:

mislim da  je  call najbolja  opcija, neznam jeste  primjetili al igra  se  4-handed a  tad ekipa  masovno pocne  3b,tak da  nebi ovo foldao..
u prijevodu , mislim da  si odigrao dobro  wink

Da, uvijek to previdim...

Ok odigrano. wink Da je 6handed, onda fold preflop.

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Oh moj Bože i ja sam zabrijao da je 6 handed   :BLUSH:  sjedi jedan... al dobro bar smo malo popricali o sitaciji koja bi bila 6 handed  smile

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

naravno i ja san to predvidija,sve ok, flop shove

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Thx svima na komentarima smile

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Moj ponos. Fali nešto malo handovi.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5020/stakepokerpro.jpg

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Re: dfable NL25 stake

Da vam čika objasni kako se igra iz big blajnda. Koji sam ja kreten.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2090/65101491.jpg

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