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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

djuma napisao:

jbg, bile su karte u boji big_smile najčudniji call koji se protiv mene dogodio je na nekom rebuy turniru od 10$... bilo preko 1000 ljudi, uđem među 15 i postanem ss, AI s KQs, dobijem call od lika s 83o koji ima 30% čipova više nego ja (mogao je još barem jedan krug čekati karte)... izađe mu 3 sad

Haha, to je baš omfg.

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Da li je profitabilno foldati u ovoj situaciji. Pitam jer mi je odmah smrdilo na neki veći par zbog minraisea tog igrača. Inače bi samo callao, ali problem je što smo ušli u push fold fazu a tt mi je omiljeni par i nerijetko padaju tripsi već na flopu...


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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t100
Big Blind: t200

BTN (Ljava) (t2560)
SB (t7310)
BB (t8730)
UTG (t7665)
UTG+1 (t4335)
MP (t5740)
CO (t4160)

BTN (Ljava) has M value 8.53

Dealt to BTN (Ljava)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t300)

UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to t400, MP & CO fold, BTN (Ljava) raises to t2560 (All-In), SB & BB fold, UTG+1 calls t2160

Flop: (Pot is t5420, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png

Turn: (Pot is t5420, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

River: (Pot is t5420, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png

Showdown:
BTN (Ljava) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png
(One Pair, Tens)

UTG+1 shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png
(One Pair, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t5420

Winners:
UTG+1 wins t5420

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

I jedna za plakanje. Ok, shvatljiv mi je jedino call iz razloga što sam prethodna 4 kruga gurnuo 2 all in-a, ali opet. Nije ni čudo, lik je 400$ u minusu. Dođe mi da razvalim kompjuter ali se onda sjetim da je kriv level na kojem igram, a ne ja...  lol

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t100
Big Blind: t200

MP (t2060)
CO (t2020)
BTN (t2900)
SB (Ljava) (t1835)
BB (t1420)
UTG (t790)
UTG+1 (t5870)

SB (Ljava) has M value 6.12

Dealt to SB (Ljava)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t300)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP & CO fold, BTN calls t200, SB (Ljava) raises to t1835 (All-In), BB folds, BTN calls t1635

Flop: (Pot is t3870, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png

Turn: (Pot is t3870, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png

River: (Pot is t3870, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png

Showdown:
BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png
(Two Pair, Eights and Twos)

SB (Ljava) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png
(One Pair, Twos)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t3870

Winners:
BTN wins t3870

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Ja bi ovdje napravio call pf, ali bi zgurao na flopu tako da bi rezultat bio isti.

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

dfable napisao:

Ja bi ovdje napravio call pf, ali bi zgurao na flopu tako da bi rezultat bio isti.

Inače to i napravim, pogotovo ako dođe as na flopu. Na taj način ga prezentiram pa neki i foldaju. Ako naletim na aseve, ionako mi nema spasa.
A za ovog sam bio uvjeren da nema aseve pa je postojala mogućnost da folda...

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Ljava napisao:

Da li je profitabilno foldati u ovoj situaciji. Pitam jer mi je odmah smrdilo na neki veći par zbog minraisea tog igrača. Inače bi samo callao, ali problem je što smo ušli u push fold fazu a tt mi je omiljeni par i nerijetko padaju tripsi već na flopu...

nice move, mislim da je čist ok, sad je imal QQ drugi put bude imal 88 ,treći puta AJ ili A6, mislim da ako već prije nisi primjetio da samo moster mini raise a drugo sve vise raise da je ovo standard

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Da ne otvaram novi topic, ovo je 2,20 180man. Fold ili? Mislim da je moja najveća greška što sam otvarao sa AQo UTG. Iako mi j čudan ovaj njegov bet na riveru...
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t50
Big Blind: t100
Ante: t10

UTG (Ljava) (t2190)
UTG+1 (t3790)
MP (t1560)
MP+1 (t2845)
CO (t5710)
BTN (t3095)
SB (t2830)
BB (t6310)

UTG (Ljava) has M value 9.52

Dealt to UTG (Ljava)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t230)

UTG (Ljava) raises to t300, UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 & CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls t200

Flop: (Pot is t730, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png
BB checks, UTG (Ljava) bets t500, BB calls t500

Turn: (Pot is t1730, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png
BB checks, UTG (Ljava) checks

River: (Pot is t1730, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png
BB bets t900, UTG (Ljava) folds,

                                                                     
Total Pot: t1730

Winners:
BB wins t1730

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Stu Ungar napisao:

nice move, mislim da je čist ok, sad je imal QQ drugi put bude imal 88 ,treći puta AJ ili A6, mislim da ako već prije nisi primjetio da samo moster mini raise a drugo sve vise raise da je ovo standard

Možeš mi samo ovo pojasniti molim te? Nisam baš siguran da li sam te skužio? Misliš, AA i KK uglavnom mini raise, sve ostalo standardni raise od 3- 5bb?

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Ljava napisao:
Stu Ungar napisao:

nice move, mislim da je čist ok, sad je imal QQ drugi put bude imal 88 ,treći puta AJ ili A6, mislim da ako već prije nisi primjetio da samo moster mini raise a drugo sve vise raise da je ovo standard

Možeš mi samo ovo pojasniti molim te? Nisam baš siguran da li sam te skužio? Misliš, AA i KK uglavnom mini raise, sve ostalo standardni raise od 3- 5bb?

da jer neki očito rade, dobe JJ+ i uvjek stisnu mini riase imaju logiku fishersku da navuku nekoga, žele da ih platiš loool ,a dok dobije A6 onda normalno raise, ali to buš rijetko brzo primjetio jer teško  da se bude dogodilo takve 2 ruke u kratkom roku da ti to možeš vidjet jedino da imaš neki note na njemu, dok drugi fishevi sve vise manje mini raise tak da mislim da nisi mogao bolje odigrat,ja opčenito nikad ne dajem kredita nekome tko mini riase

Zadnji popravljao Stu Ungar (08-02-2010 12:14:39)

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Ok, tnx.

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Mislim da ja svaki komentar suvišan. By the way, početak turnira...  lol

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t15
Big Blind: t30

UTG+1 (t990)
MP (t1770)
MP+1 (Ljava) (t3210)
CO (t1060)
BTN (t2000)
SB (t1650)
BB (t2430)
UTG (t390)

MP+1 (Ljava) has M value 71.33

Dealt to MP+1 (Ljava)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t45)

UTG raises to t390 (All-In), UTG+1 & MP fold, MP+1 (Ljava) raises to t3210 (All-In), CO calls t1060 (All-In), BTN & SB & BB fold,

Flop: (Pot is t2555, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png

Turn: (Pot is t2555, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png

River: (Pot is t2555, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png

Showdown:
MP+1 (Ljava) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png
(One Pair, Threes)

CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6S.png
(Two Pair, Queens and Threes)

UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
(One Pair, Threes)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t2555

Winners:
CO wins t2555

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

AQ ruku bi zgurao na turnu

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Kako se postaviti u ovj situaciji? Evo baš sam fino popušio od donka chipleadera...
Overbetao je i znam da obično ekipa blefa ali sam mislio da me namjerno navlači sa desetkom ili lovi draw. Kada je došao flush na turnu mislio sam da je to to. Šta sam trebao gurati all in na flopu? Ili na turnu nakon njegovog lošeg beta?
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t75
Big Blind: t150
Ante: t20

UTG (Ljava) (t5685)
UTG+1 (t3565)
MP (t15850)
MP+1 (t1875)
MP+2 (t6430)
CO (t8100)
BTN (t2525)
SB (t1700)
BB (t27455)

UTG (Ljava) has M value 14.04

Dealt to UTG (Ljava)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t405)

UTG (Ljava) raises to t500, UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 & MP+2 & CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls t350

Flop: (Pot is t1255, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png
BB bets t2100, UTG (Ljava) calls t2100

Turn: (Pot is t5455, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png
BB bets t1200, UTG (Ljava) calls t1200

River: (Pot is t7855, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
BB bets t2400, UTG (Ljava) calls t1865 (All-In),

Showdown:
UTG (Ljava) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png
(Two Pair, Queens and Tens)

BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Tens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t11585

Winners:
BB wins t11585

Zadnji popravljao Ljava (08-02-2010 14:02:36)

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Na flopu guraj. Makar mislim da bi te čak i platio ako je donk kao šta kažeš. Ne kužim call na flopu jer ti ostaje 1865 chipova, a pot je cca 6000. Sa ostatkom čipova nemaš nikakve manevre, a foldat više ne možeš...

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dfable napisao:

Na flopu guraj. Makar mislim da bi te čak i platio ako je donk kao šta kažeš. Ne kužim call na flopu jer ti ostaje 1865 chipova, a pot je cca 6000. Sa ostatkom čipova nemaš nikakve manevre, a foldat više ne možeš...

Misliš call naturnu gdje mi ostaje 1865? Tu sam već tiltao pa sam bzvz. callao iako sam mogao foldati ili gurnuti all in...

Zadnji popravljao Ljava (08-02-2010 14:07:44)

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call na flopu je greška, flop na njegov bet instant all in

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i onaj AQ na turn je instant all in, post flop si previše pasivan, na takvim sng nema navlačenja,slow igranja , dok imaš u glavu i gotovo

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Stu Ungar napisao:

call na flopu je greška, flop na njegov bet instant all in

Ovo mislim smile

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Stu Ungar napisao:

i onaj AQ na turn je instant all in, post flop si previše pasivan, na takvim sng nema navlačenja,slow igranja , dok imaš u glavu i gotovo

Mislim da je ovo najveći problem... U zadnja 3 dana imam downswing od 16 bi-a. Nikako da me krene pa u ovakvim slučajevima odigram jako loše, pasivno jer mislim  da idem na ziher...  roll
Jebiga, početnik sam i moram se naučiti nositi s time.  smile

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Re: 1.2$ SNG na P.S.-u (Normal speed)

Moj savjet ti je da igraš jako tight u početku, samo premium handove. Bez pozicije bacaj karte tipa KJ, KQ, A10, QJ. Late pozicije otvaraj sa AJ+. Ove karte J, KQ, A10, QJ možeš igrat sa CO, BTN, SB, BB ako nitko nije otvorio i nema limpera. 88+ također otvaraj iz tih pozicija, ako ima par limepra, call jer češ ih teško izbacit iz pota a ako raisaš češ se commitat. Male parove 22-77 limpaj, na raise foldaj iz ranih pozicija, u kasnim pozicijama max do 3bb dok su manji blindovi.
Ako ti SB često radi call a do njega svi foldaju, uvijek 3bb raise, večinu puta češ uzeti pot bez flopa.
Na flopu budi agresivan, ako imaš TPTK, betaj 1/2 pota protiv jednog protivnika, 3/4> protiv više od jednog protivnika.
I nemoj previše (skoro pa nikad) blefat. Ako npr imaš AK, AQ, dvojica ti zovu raise, a flop te ne pogodi, ne isplati se uvijek raditi CB.
U bubble fazi ako si ti short i padneš ispod 7-8BB  guraj allin ako prvi otvaraš sa A10+, pogotovo ako su iza tebe jako tight.

To ti je ugrubo, ako sam negdje pogriješio, neka me netko ispravi smile

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Stu Ungar napisao:

dok imaš u glavu i gotovo

this

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dfable napisao:

To ti je ugrubo, ako sam negdje pogriješio, neka me netko ispravi smile

Dobro si ti to napisao, ja sam malo agresivniji pa 88+ s pozicije rejzam, AK+ ako nije calling station uvijek cb.
Sto se steala tice, izbjegavam ga u ranoj fazi ovisno o prvom s desna- upravo zato je od iznimne vaznosti upoznati igru 3 protivnika:
- prvom s desna
- prvom s lijeva
- kapetanu, kako kaze Moshman- igrac s najvecim stackom, cesto igra preotvoreno

Te nam informacije dobro dodju u bubble igri kad se oslanjamo na pumpanje stacka pushevima s sb-a.

But they were suited...
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Hvala sokol smile

Pa da, možda me nisi dobro razumio, i ja raisam sa 88+ iz pozicije osim ako nije bilo raisa prije mene, onda call. AK da CBet protiv jendog protivnika i ako je board takav da možeš nešto reprezentat (npr. Q28), ali ako je flop npr 810J, tu ču skoro pa nikad CBetat jer jednostavno previše pogađa range protivnika.
Steal, jako rijetko u ranoj fazi, osim ako nema statse 5/2, onda ču svako toliko pokušat ukrast sa bilo koje dvije karte.
Ovo za praćenje igrača se slažem, ali treba pratit sve igrače, a ne samo tu trojicu (prijatelj mi je to dobro objasnio). To je jedan od razloga zašto ne igrati više SNG-a ako ne želite igrati robotski. U bubble fazi vam svaka, pa i najmanja informacija o protivniku neopisivo puno znači, a ako igrate više stolova, nemoguče je pratit na svim stolovima sve igrače (barem dok smo još rookie smile )

p.s. možda nisi skužio ovo moje "otvaraj". To bi značilo da ču prvi rejzat ako nitko do mene nije rejzao.

Zadnji popravljao dfable (08-02-2010 19:04:35)

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Hvala svima na odgovorima  smile

Nego, konačno prekinuo najveći post do sada. Evo kako se gubi u heads up FT 45man. Nakon što sam smanjio zaostatak za chipleaderom u samo dvije runde (kad smo krenuli, omjer stackova 3:1), standarno river i 4 outa...

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t600
Big Blind: t1200
Ante: t75

BB (t38619)
SB (Ljava) (t28881)

SB (Ljava) has M value 14.81

Dealt to SB (Ljava)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t1950)

SB (Ljava) calls t600, BB raises to t2400, SB (Ljava) raises to t3600, BB raises to t4800, SB (Ljava) calls t1200

Flop: (Pot is t9750, 2 players)

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BB bets t4800, SB (Ljava) calls t4800

Turn: (Pot is t19350, 2 players)

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BB bets t6000, SB (Ljava) raises to t19206 (All-In), BB calls t13206

River: (Pot is t57762, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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Showdown:
BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png
(Straight, King high)

SB (Ljava) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png
(Two Pair, Jacks and Sevens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t57762

Winners:
BB wins t57762

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Ajme majko, pa šta je to pf, ping pong? big_smile
Ovo bi ja bacio bez gledat. Kada dobiješ reraise (makar nema puno smisla kada pogledam iznos raisa) takve karte bacaš.

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