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Tema: Moji handovi - Omaha Hi/Lo

kao što sam već napisao u drugom topicu, kao početnik sam na Omahi HL imao velikih gubitaka ali mi se svidjela igra mislim da je lakše beatat nego NL Holdem zato što je važniji dobar odabir starting handova + ima dosta ljudi koji ne kuže format nego svrate tu i tamo kad im dosadi Holdem (ovo je samoironija)... također preferiram OMHL u odnosu na OMH.

Anyway nakon što sam dobio po prstima (bankrollu), pročitao sam još brdo literature, vježbao na raznim freerollovima i manjim turnirima od 10-20 centi... uglavnom odigrao sam nekoliko tisuća handova, unaprijedio svoju igru i osjetio se spreman da ponovo probam OMHL na cashu.

Izbor je pao na Pokerstars OMHL pot limit 2, i mogu reći da sam se ugodno iznenadio. Stolovi su jako loose, gomila fisheva koji igraju preko 70% handova, ignoriraju flush, full house itd itd... Ogromna razlika u odnosu na moj stari server (Stellapoker) u odnosu na Pokerstars Omaha igrači tamo su pravi profesionalci. Prvi dan sam u 2 sata zaradio oko pet dolara, evo nekih handova:

mislim da je kod handa 2 neka greška, imao sam najbolji low i dobio pola...

molim komentare big_smile

Zadnji popravljao Svizac (18-02-2010 04:48:00)

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Re: Moji handovi - Omaha Hi/Lo

Imaš dosta guaranted turnira u omahi HL na poker starsu a nikad nema puno igrača probaj koji ako je je znaš igrati

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Re: Moji handovi - Omaha Hi/Lo

dejan1471 napisao:

Imaš dosta guaranted turnira u omahi HL na poker starsu a nikad nema puno igrača probaj koji ako je je znaš igrati

aha evo našao sam ih probat ću jedan od ovih:
14:30 $2.20 Pot Limit Omaha High/Low ($1.000 GTD)
22:30 $1.10 Pot Limit Omaha High/Low ($500 GTD)

Hvala

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Re: Moji handovi - Omaha Hi/Lo

Izgleda da ti nisi ni svjestan da je ovo što si igrao Omaha, a ne Omaha H/L (zato u 2. handu nisi dobio low, a niti u jednom drugom handu low nije niti bio moguć)

KAD bi ovo bio Omaha H/L, onda bih handove ovako iskomentirao:
1.hand: ako već odlučiš igrat spekulativne handove poput ovog (a ubuduće nemoj, jer je -EV), moraš jednom kad uhvatiš nutse natjerat protivnika da ti plati i da istovremeno nema oddse potrebne za hvatanje low-a. Zato samo potbetanje dolazi u obzir
2.hand: imaš ruku koja dobro igra u multiway potu i ne želiš s njom preflop raisati. Nakon 5beta, ti si s ovom rukom gotov jer nije tip ruke s kojom se želiš commitati preflop protiv dva protivnika.
3.hand: ovo (AALx) je tip ruke koju želiš odigrati brzo i protiv što manjeg broja protivnika, stoga ili odmah raise ili limp/4betpot. As played, gotov si s rukom na flopu jer praktički drawaš samo za non-nut low, a to se u O8 ne radi
4.hand: što namjeravaš postići 1/2pot betom na flopu? Nemaš nutse ni u jednom smjeru, i ovdje želiš jeftino doći do showdowna. Na turnu čist check/fold, bet ovdje je izrazito -EV iako ti je nekim čudom ovdje prošao.
5.hand: standardno, tu ništa nisi mogao

Zadnji popravljao dabac (18-02-2010 20:18:41)

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Hvala na odgovorima dabac smile

Šta se tiče handa 1, kad sam otvorio set dama na flopu bio sam uvjeren da će tip foldat ako betam pot, jer je dotada igrao dosta oprezno. 2 i 3 su moje greške, moram još poradit na tome kad raisat a kad limpat preflop. Hand 4, tu sam htio pokazati da se može pokupit cijeli pot na semibluff (ako imam nuts ili near-nuts low hand a bananu za high). Samo jebga izabrao sam loš primjer ovaj hand ispod je bolji primjer tu sam imao nuts low a i pot je bio veći.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG+2: $2.98
MP1: $2.66
MP2: $2.87
CO: $4.65
BTN: $1.97
SB: $5.42
Hero (BB): $2.01
UTG: $4.94
UTG+1: $4.86

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
UTG raises to $0.06, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.06, 1 fold, CO calls $0.06, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.30) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $0.04, CO folds, SB folds, Hero calls $0.04, UTG calls $0.04

Turn: ($0.42) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, UTG folds, MP1 calls $0.30

River: ($1.02) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.97, MP1 folds

Final Pot: $1.02
Hero mucks 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
Hero wins $0.97
(Rake: $0.05)

I za kraj postam ponovno Hand 2 (ovdje se vidi da je igra Omaha H/L):

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 8 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $0.53
BB: $0.80
UTG: $2.92
UTG+1: $4.68
MP1: $5.39
Hero (MP2): $1.09
CO: $5.70
BTN: $2.85

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, BTN raises to $0.20, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.77, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.71, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.57

Flop: ($3.17) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (4 players)
BB bets $0.03 all in, MP1 calls $0.03, Hero calls $0.03, BTN raises to $2.08 all in, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.29 all in

Turn: ($3.87) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($3.87) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $3.87
BB shows 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (HI: two pair, Nines and Sevens)
Hero shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (HI: high card Ace; LO: 8,7,3,2,A)
BTN shows 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (HI: two pair, Eights and Deuces; LO: 8,7,5,2,A)
BTN wins $0.29
Hero wins $0.29
BB wins $1.57
Hero wins $1.57
(Rake: $0.15)

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Re: Moji handovi - Omaha Hi/Lo

Izgleda da si onda bio provukao O8 handove kroz Omaha konverter, pa je zato izgledalo da nisi dobio ništa, jer sad se jasno vidi da si dobio 1/2 pota.
Inače, ovaj primjer koji si sad stavio je potpuno drukčiji, jer ovdje doista imaš nut low na riveru i normalno je da ćeš ju betati i probati inducirati fold kod protivnika (jedini primjeri kad to ne treba raditi su primjeri kad je vrlo vjerojatno da te jedan ili više protivnika freerollaju za high, a ne mogu callati s lošijim handom npr. na A345ss, A2345 i sličnim boardovima kad držiš A2HH).

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