Tema: I sta reći?

U par ruka sam izgubio vodeće mjesto na turniru, pa mi recite gdje sam loše odigrao??

Callao sam samo jer sam bio u small blindu i imao suited karte, pa reko da vidimo flop... žetona sam imao i bio vodeći na turniru. Na flopu mi izađu 77 i znam da imam prednost, ali pratim. Dimasik je betao pa sam znao da ima A. I na turnu još jedan A i moram foldat full house.

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t15
Big Blind: t30

BB (t5590)
UTG (t1430)
UTG+1 (t4210)
MP (t1560)
MP+1 (t1760)
CO (t2110)
BTN (t1930)
SB (Ico424) (t6790)

SB (Ico424) has M value 150.89

Dealt to SB (Ico424)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t45)

UTG calls t30, UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 fold, CO calls t30, BTN calls t30, SB (Ico424) calls t15, BB checks

Flop: (Pot is t150, 5 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png
SB (Ico424) checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets t90, BTN calls t90, SB (Ico424) calls t90, BB & UTG fold

Turn: (Pot is t420, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png
SB (Ico424) checks, CO bets t1990 (All-In), BTN & SB (Ico424) fold,

                                                                     
Total Pot: t420

Winners:
CO wins t420




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Re: I sta reći?

Iduća ruka...

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t15
Big Blind: t30

SB (t5560)
BB (t4295)
UTG (t1400)
UTG+1 (t4210)
MP (t1560)
MP+1 (t1760)
MP+2 (t2410)
CO (t1810)
BTN (Ico424) (t6670)

BTN (Ico424) has M value 148.22

Dealt to BTN (Ico424)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t45)

UTG calls t30, UTG+1 folds, MP calls t30, MP+1 folds, MP+2 raises to t2410 (All-In), CO folds, BTN (Ico424) calls t2410, SB & BB & UTG & MP fold

Flop: (Pot is t4925, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png

Turn: (Pot is t4925, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png

River: (Pot is t4925, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png

Showdown:
MP+2 shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png
(Flush, King high)

BTN (Ico424) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
(One Pair, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t4925

Winners:
MP+2 wins t4925




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Re: I sta reći?

I dvije ruke kasnije...
Opet isti igrač... Pa jebemu, jel tako teško imat malo i sreće na ovom pokeru
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t15
Big Blind: t30

MP+1 (t5545)
MP+2 (t4250)
CO (t1325)
BTN (t4165)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1700)
UTG (t4940)
UTG+1 (t1750)
MP (Ico424) (t4500)

MP (Ico424) has M value 100

Dealt to MP (Ico424)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t45)

UTG raises to t810, UTG+1 folds, MP (Ico424) raises to t1590, MP+1 & MP+2 & CO & BTN & SB fold, BB raises to t1700 (All-In), UTG calls t890, MP (Ico424) calls t110

Flop: (Pot is t5115, 3 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png
UTG bets t1110, MP (Ico424) raises to t2800 (All-In), UTG calls t1690

Turn: (Pot is t10715, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png

River: (Pot is t10715, 3 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png

Showdown:
BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png
(Two Pair, Kings and Fours)

UTG shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png
(Flush, King high)

MP (Ico424) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Fours)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t10715

Winners:
UTG wins t10715

Zadnji popravljao Ico424 (09-09-2009 13:03:00)

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Re: I sta reći?

Jebi ga, to je poker.

S vremenom ćeš shvatiti da je ovo normalno.

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upravo to kolko ja vidim nisi nista lose odigro samo nisi imo srece
neznam kolko dugo igras poker al meni je trebalo nekih 6 mjeseci od kad sam poceo igrat da se prstanem zivcirat oko takvih stvari...

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Ma jasno mi je da je normalno, ali to mi se dešava stalno...

Igram jako tight, imam bolju ruku i na riveru izgubim iako je omjer 95% na mojoj strani... Pa da se barem upola toliko koliko se protiv mene to dešava desi za mene, pa bio bi svjetski prvak big_smile

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Re: I sta reći?

Ovo je forum za riješavanje frustracija pa se pokušavam ispucat big_smile

Bolje tu nego da igram dalje danas... kad neide neide big_smile

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Re: I sta reći?

Po meni drugi hand nema potrebe za callanjem allina preflop. Blindovi 15/30 i neko zgura  t2410. Ne vidim razlog callanja sa AQ. Posto nema akcije prije, nego odma MP+2 gura cijeli stack. Ocito je da je jak i trazi call.
Sa AQ si u najboljem slucaju u coin flipu, tako da ne vidim razloga za call tu.

"Dikod uđe, dikod ne uđe" - Mate Baturina
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zamorano11 napisao:

Po meni drugi hand nema potrebe za callanjem allina preflop. Blindovi 15/30 i neko zgura  t2410. Ne vidim razlog callanja sa AQ. Posto nema akcije prije, nego odma MP+2 gura cijeli stack. Ocito je da je jak i trazi call.
Sa AQ si u najboljem slucaju u coin flipu, tako da ne vidim razloga za call tu.

Da, I prije je zvao all in par puta preflop na K6 i na A6 na ruke koje ja nisam igrao tako da... znao sam da je jak, ali jebat ga. I zvao je još 2 puta kad su svi foldali tako da mu neznam karte.

Zadnji popravljao Ico424 (09-09-2009 13:50:47)

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Znam da sam trebao foldat na 3bet ali foldat full sa igrom kojom je on igrao??
Znam da bi me rušila i 8-ica i 10-tka samo... jbg... ko prava riba sam nasjeo
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

BB ($2.15)
UTG ($17.7)
UTG+1 ($10.55)
MP ($1.4)
MP+1 ($2.45)
CO (Ico424) ($10.9)
BTN ($5.7)
SB ($7.9)

Dealt to CO (Ico424)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.1, MP & MP+1 fold, CO (Ico424) raises to $0.3, BTN & SB & BB fold, UTG+1 calls $0.2

Flop: (Pot is $0.75, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png
UTG+1 checks, CO (Ico424) checks

Turn: (Pot is $0.75, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png
UTG+1 bets $0.4, CO (Ico424) calls $0.4

River: (Pot is $1.55, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png
UTG+1 bets $1.5, CO (Ico424) raises to $3.9, UTG+1 raises to $9.85 (All-In), CO (Ico424) calls $5.95

Showdown:
UTG+1 shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
(Four of a Kind, Eights)

CO (Ico424) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png
(Full House, Eights over Aces)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $21.25 | Rake: $1.05

Winners:
UTG+1 wins $20.2

Zadnji popravljao Ico424 (10-09-2009 14:00:53)

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Re: I sta reći?

Ovjde si trebao prije flopa više rejzati. Do 4-5 bb-a. Kad netko limpa uvijek se više rejza.

Poslije flopa nisi mogao foldati ali si mogao betati flop, turn i river.

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roba59 napisao:

Ovjde si trebao prije flopa više rejzati. Do 4-5 bb-a. Kad netko limpa uvijek se više rejza.

Poslije flopa nisi mogao foldati ali si mogao betati flop, turn i river.

A ja se pravio pametan.... sad

kao uzet ću mu sve što ima, a ovako je on uzeo meni sa1 od 2 karte koju je mogao imat sad

Learned on a hard way

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Nije sve tako crno big_smile

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t20
Big Blind: t40

MP+1 (t1875)
MP+2 (t2025)
CO (t1650)
BTN (t6625)
SB (t1955)
BB (t1910)
UTG (t2590)
UTG+1 (t1270)
MP (Ico424) (t1015)

MP (Ico424) has M value 16.92

Dealt to MP (Ico424)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t60)

UTG calls t40, UTG+1 raises to t1270 (All-In), MP (Ico424) calls t1015 (All-In), MP+1 & MP+2 & CO & BTN & SB & BB & UTG fold,

Flop: (Pot is t2130, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png

Turn: (Pot is t2130, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png

River: (Pot is t2130, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Showdown:
UTG+1 shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
(Flush, Ace high)

MP (Ico424) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png
(Four of a Kind, Aces)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t2130

Winners:
MP (Ico424) wins t2130




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Liga za borbu protiv fisheva

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4683111

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Re: I sta reći?

Inače, i ja sam isto tight igrač i navikao sam na situacije da te ljudi sa 1-10 outova dobe i također sam kao i ti uvijek mislio zašto se meni to tako često ne događa da ja dobim. Razlog je jako jednostavan, u većini slučajeva ti si taj koji ima najbolju ruku kad guraš ili callaš nekog preflop, rijetko kad si underdog i pa zato ti se čini da rijeđe dobiš kad jesi.

Nemoj se previše bedirat oko toga... wink

Ja u pravilu najviše suckoutam kad imam overpair na board, a protivnik ima dva para ili set, a preflop all in sam rijetko underdog, i tu se događaju onda badbeatovi (što se casha tiče).

Evo jedan najbolji suckout koji sam ja nanio s obzirom na veličinu pota tongue http://www.pokerhand.org/?4683213
A trebao sam foldat na flopu. big_smile

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Upravo to...

često foldam ruke kao Ax ii Kx ako taj x nije veći od 9 i/ili u istoj boji.... Suited connectore igram jako rijetko, to znaći samo 9 10 ili 10 J i to ne idem na 3bet preflop i ako nemam ništa na flopu u 90% slučajeva foldam, ili ovisno o igraćima koji su u igri blefam da me pogodio flop. Igram sve u svemu 20% ruka i popušit bad beat u tom omjeru je deprimirajuće big_smile

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