Tema: OESFD na turnu

33/25 lik sa cbetom 50
wtsd 35

izi ship?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

SB (thezemo13) ($176.59)
BB ($33.68)
UTG ($45.3)
MP ($61.91)
CO ($118.01)
BTN ($99.5)

Dealt to SB (thezemo13)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG folds, MP calls $1, CO folds, BTN raises to $4.5, SB (thezemo13) calls $4, BB & MP fold

Flop: (Pot is $11, 2 players)

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SB (thezemo13) checks, BTN checks

Turn: (Pot is $11, 2 players)

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SB (thezemo13) bets $7.33, BTN raises to $24.44

River: (Pot is $42.77, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $42.77 | Rake: $42.77




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Re: OESFD na turnu

40/24 na 200ak handova
36 wtsd
rejza cbet 21%

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1

BB ($107.13)
UTG ($143.64)
MP ($30)
CO ($59.88)
BTN ($99.93)
SB (thezemo13) ($135.55)

Dealt to SB (thezemo13)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)

UTG raises to $3, MP & CO & BTN fold, SB (thezemo13) raises to $11, BB folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: (Pot is $23, 2 players)

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SB (thezemo13) bets $17.25, UTG raises to $34.5

Turn: (Pot is $74.75, 2 players)


River: (Pot is $74.75, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $74.75 | Rake: $74.75




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1. hand
fold ili 3bet pre.. Turn je vjerojatno ship jer imas par, tako da ubijas njegov draw+ imas dobar draw pa stojis ok protiv seta smile Al preflop call je mislim los OOP

2. hand.
Ship. Zasto 3betas UTGa s KQ? Opet mislim da preflop nije dobro  tongue

Zadnji popravljao Tilt (06-07-2010 23:47:43)

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3.

38/9 na 50ak handova

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $1
Big Blind: $2

SB ($289.79)
BB ($152.24)
UTG (thezemo13) ($228)
CO ($481.43)
BTN ($207.47)

Dealt to UTG (thezemo13)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $3)

UTG (thezemo13) raises to $6, CO & BTN fold, SB calls $5, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $14, 2 players)

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SB checks, UTG (thezemo13) bets $10.5, SB calls $10.5

Turn: (Pot is $35, 2 players)

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SB checks, UTG (thezemo13) checks

River: (Pot is $35, 2 players)

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SB bets $26.25, UTG (thezemo13) raises to $70, SB raises to $273.29 (All-In)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $378.29 | Rake: $378.29




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neznam jesi primjetio tilt, al nivea ima i bottom pair
IMO easy ship

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Re: OESFD na turnu

20/16 reg
af 4

kaj sad?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $1
Big Blind: $2

BTN ($537.44)
SB (thezemo13) ($219.3)
BB ($199)
UTG ($203.4)
CO ($203)

Dealt to SB (thezemo13)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $3)

UTG & CO fold, BTN calls $2, SB (thezemo13) raises to $10, BB calls $8, BTN folds

Flop: (Pot is $22, 2 players)

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SB (thezemo13) bets $14.67, BB raises to $45

Turn: (Pot is $81.67, 2 players)


River: (Pot is $81.67, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $81.67 | Rake: $81.67

Zadnji popravljao niveaformen (06-07-2010 23:59:08)

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Hahahahahaah opet preflop pizdarije radis ahahahaah necu komentirat ostalo jer znam rezultate... ahahah jos mi pise na skypu da ima 64s, i ja racunam, a ok, vjerojatno steala s btn pa se uvalio u govna, a kralj rejza UTG haahahah

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1. fold/3b pre, turn bi call samo

2. ez ship

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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Brky napisao:

neznam jesi primjetio tilt, al nivea ima i bottom pair
IMO easy ship

Ma nisam primjetio da ima i par, editiro sam post, ovako je ship.

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milac napisao:

2. ez ship

Zašto misliš da je izi ship?

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1. 87s neću 3betat zbog limpera koji je fish i želim da bude u potu ako me pogodi a i može zgurat, a vjerujem da ću se često naplatit od btn-a kojemu vidite statse

2. isto ko i 1., loš igrač na utg-u i 3betam za value

Zadnji popravljao niveaformen (06-07-2010 23:53:10)

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dfable napisao:
milac napisao:

2. ez ship

Zašto misliš da je izi ship?

Top 2 se ne baca u 3betanom potu na flopu nikad.

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dfable napisao:
milac napisao:

2. ez ship

Zašto misliš da je izi ship?

zato sto nema puno boljih ruku od nasih TT, AJ, set QQ ili KK tesko da ima, a ubijamo KJ, QJ, TJ, AK, JJ, AA, random air. a i necu sigurno 3betat KQ i foldat na KQT

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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niveaformen napisao:

1. 87s neću 3betat zbog limpera koji je fish i želim da bude u potu ako me pogodi a i može zgurat, a vjerujem da ću se često naplatit od btn-a kojemu vidite statse

2. isto ko i 1., loš igrač na utg-u i 3betam za value

puno cesce ces fulat, a i kad pogodis ce to uglavnom biti neki draw, po meni bolje uzet tih par $ od btn 3betom

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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2. hand. Slažem se sa svime šta ste rekli, ali meni ne bi bio baš izi ship, makar bi i ja zgurao. Raisa UTG, calla 3bet i minrejza flop. Kada fish to radi onda to znači jaki hand, sa parom to ne bi radio. Kažem, zgurao bi, ali imam feeling da sam beatan.

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Pa pogledaj mu raise c-bet. On to radi s svim JX handovima i još nekim random handovima.

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LOL. svaki hand pizdarije preflop.

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Onaj hand sa 64s ne kuzim nikak zasto si rejzao UTG. River pak nemozes nikako foldat sa fulom. ...ak ima 77, 99 ili straight flush (5h8h) jebaga cooler ali 64s  big_smile  btw to je NL200 da nisi tiltao opet i vracao  lovu ?  neutral

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Ajde dečki kao da vi ne ubacite tu i tamo špekulativan hand UTG.
Osim toga, ne mislim da je nešto krivo napravljeno preflop u drugim handovima.
Iako bi valjalo 3betat 87hh tamo-

Zadnji popravljao salemetal (07-07-2010 00:55:15)

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64s ajd moze i rejzat ali je malo fancy i nepotrebno- foldat full na riveru?  ne bas.. ak ima 5h8h, 77 ili 99 jbga cooler... 78s je bacanje love ak se OOP ovako calla pogotovo ako izgleda da ce biti HU hand. velikom vecinom se nis ne flopa a na cbet mora foldat.. ili igrat guess game OOP. KQ hand - tribet je ok ako mislis da calla sa KT ili QJ i takvim sranjima koje dominiras.. ako pak folda na 3bet dosta onda je call  ok jer je hand odlican i igra odlicno postflop... A8o neznam...ja bi completao ili vrlo vjerojatno foldao makar izgleda prreweak... eh ovako je lako analizirat ali jedno je teorija drugo praksa  big_smile

Zadnji popravljao Bebach (07-07-2010 01:20:30)

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kak se sa 78s velikom večinom niš ne flopa? a objasnio sam zašto ne 3bet...

za KQ mislim da neće nikad minrejzat ništa osim nutsa i mislim da sam trebao odustat...

64s nisam na utg već na mp i to je standardan open za mene ako je bb tight, a ne igram previše tabli tako da mogu igrat više loose...

i nije bio nikakav tilt...

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niveaformen napisao:

za KQ mislim da neće nikad minrejzat ništa osim nutsa i mislim da sam trebao odustat...

E ovdje se slažemo smile Budi postao rezultat, jako me zanima ovaj hand.

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1. istina, dobro se flopa, ali kad si u poziciji.. oop ne valja za flat protiv jednog rejzera.. da kojim slucajem imas rejz, call, onda call moze proci, ovako ne bas.. as played, equity wise moras shovat

2. tesko kad KQ moze bit 3b za value oop protiv bilokoga zdravog, iako on opena 24%, njegov utg rejz ce biti cca 14-15%, a njegov 3b calling range ce biti skoro pa upola manji, tako da KQ bas i ne stoji ok protiv tog rangea.. as played, ne mozes foldat, mislim, sta si ocekivao flopat kad si 3betao? KQQ oO? dao ti je prostora za play koji god hoces, bilo call pa reevaluate, ili ship i nadat se da ima par i draw il QT, mozda i cudne AA il JJ, ovisi kako percipiras njegov range tamo

3. tvoj hand ovdje je totalno maskiran te on ovdje 105% shova bilokoji flush.. boat nebi tako odigrao skoro pa nikad, osim ako nema bas tocno 99 jerbo bi te za 77 rejzao na tom boardu skoro pa uvijek, daklejedino sto te beata u ovom spotu je 99, ovo je snap call..

4. pre ok, post je sve stvar momentuma.. jeste imali blind battleove prije? kako je odigravao drawove? i sl.. u vakuumu ovo je solidan spot za shove hu bvb. cesto ces vidjeti 55-99 ovdje, mozda nekad cak i 78 tipa hand, nekad i FD sa overicama..lol  u biti sto vise razmisljam sve je vise fold big_smile ali kad tako izoliras ribu oop, bb inace flata tvoj rejz sa poketima, tako da ovo smrdi na set/overpar.. set nikad ne folda, overpar nekad i neke drawove isto nekad, tako da si skontaj jel on tip igraca koji je sposoban foldat ovdje 88-99 i onda nastavi po planu big_smile

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niveaformen napisao:

za KQ mislim da neće nikad minrejzat ništa osim nutsa i mislim da sam trebao odustat...

LOL. Nikad nisi dobio minirejz u 3betanom potu, a da nije nuts? Pa u 3beatnim potovima je minirejz sasvim normalna stvar.

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Tilt napisao:
niveaformen napisao:

za KQ mislim da neće nikad minrejzat ništa osim nutsa i mislim da sam trebao odustat...

LOL. Nikad nisi dobio minirejz u 3betanom potu, a da nije nuts? Pa u 3beatnim potovima je minirejz sasvim normalna stvar.

(finger)

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