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Tema: 5,5R

Ostalo nas 21/1300 i ja sam negdje malo ispod averagea...
Na protivniku imam 60 ruku i od toga 2 3-beta od kojih je jedan bio 45BB eff shove na moj rejz s buttona odmah čim je došao na stol...
Moj image je dosta tight,i on me vidio  cca.  13/10 na tih 60 ruku
E sad, prvo 3-beta late poz. raise kad je BB(2.5x), nakon toga ja raisam KJoff na buttonu i mene 3-beta 2.5x na što ja malo razmišljam, ali ipak foldam jer nije to često radio...I ovo je zadnje(znači 3. njegov 3-bet)...
Koji je tu moj shoveing range i zašto???
Koji je njegov bottom za call?
znači ja sam CO,a on BTN

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t3500
Big Blind: t7000
Ante: t700

SB (t120744)
BB (t144714)
UTG (t232177)
UTG+1 (t322742)
MP (t409210)
CO (t183156)
BTN (t385018)

Preflop: (Pot is: t15400)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP fold, CO raises to t16500, BTN raises to t40190

Flop: (Pot is t72090, 4 players)


Turn: (Pot is t72090, 4 players)


River: (Pot is t72090, 4 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: t72090 | Rake: t72090

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Re: 5,5R

77+ AJ+ KQ ne foldam nikad, a mozes i malo prosirit range nekad.. Zasto? Zato sto si povecavas stack za 30% ako folda, a i ako te calla imas dobar equity.. Ne znam koji je njegov range za call, ali ako je solidan ne bi trebao previse 3b/foldat s ovim stackovima i s ovim historyjem..

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Re: 5,5R

ugl. evo ruke...callo me nakon što je potrošio cijeli time bank sa 77
moj range za shove bi ovdje bio isto što i tvoj Tilt osim što bi dodao parove od 22+ jer sumnjam da mu se range 3-betanja sastoji od najmanjih pocketa koje je namjeravao callati...ali thinking proces je isti...isto sam mislio za botom AJ+ i KQ

ugl...mislim da je ovo standard s obje strane, iako je užas kad izgubimo ovako i onda preispitujemo svaku odluku  neutral

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t3500
Big Blind: t7000
Ante: t700

SB (t120744)
BB (t144714)
UTG (t232177)
UTG+1 (t322742)
MP (t409210)
CO (malimisko) (t183156)
BTN (t385018)

CO (malimisko) has M value 11.89

Dealt to CO (malimisko)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t15400)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP fold, CO (malimisko) raises to t16500, BTN raises to t40190, SB & BB fold, CO (malimisko) raises to t182456 (All-In), BTN calls t142266

Flop: (Pot is t380312, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png

Turn: (Pot is t380312, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

River: (Pot is t380312, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png

Showdown:
CO (malimisko) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png
(One Pair, Sixes)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7H.png
(One Pair, Sevens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t380312

Winners:
BTN wins t380312

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Re: 5,5R

da, slazem se s tobom.. U njegovom slucaju sa 77 mislim da je najbolje shoveat na tvoj open rejz. Najmanja varianca je ako shoveam, jer ces ti u vecini slucajeva foldat, a s 3betom ti dopustam da shoveas puno handova s kojim flipamo. 3bet/fold sa 77 i 25bb bb, pogotovo uz ovaj history je najgora opcija.

Ja sam imao slicnu situaciju nekidan sa 77 i stavio sam na 2p2, i svi su rekli da je dobar 4bet shove..

Bio sam dosta loose jer mi je ovo ostao zadnji turnir i igrao sam samo 1 stol, a villian je na 30 handova igro 27/23  3bet 17

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t3000
Big Blind: t6000
Ante: t750

SB (t567574)
BB (t187635)
UTG (t95229)
UTG+1 (t140821)
MP (t272909)
MP+1 (t55039)
MP+2 (Turcin89) (t183293)
CO (t73987)
BTN (t272252)

MP+2 (Turcin89) has M value 11.64

Dealt to MP+2 (Turcin89)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t15750)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 fold, MP+2 (Turcin89) raises to t13855, CO folds, BTN calls t13855, SB raises to t37775, BB folds, MP+2 (Turcin89) raises to t182543 (All-In)

Flop: (Pot is t246923, 3 players, 1 all-in)


Turn: (Pot is t246923, 3 players, 1 all-in)


River: (Pot is t246923, 3 players, 1 all-in)


                                                                     
Total Pot: t246923 | Rake: t246923

Zadnji popravljao Tilt (21-03-2011 23:16:42)

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