Tema: NL5

villan je 21/13 na 70ak hendova
na koji range bi ga stavili na flopu i turnu? i kako odigrat river?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

BB ($12.5)
UTG (Alejandro797) ($10)
MP ($4.96)
CO ($5.24)
BTN ($5.43)
SB ($5.6)

Dealt to UTG (Alejandro797)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG (Alejandro797) raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO & BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $0.37, 2 players)

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UTG (Alejandro797) bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25

Turn: (Pot is $0.87, 2 players)

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UTG (Alejandro797) bets $0.6, MP calls $0.6

River: (Pot is $2.07, 2 players)

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Total Pot: $2.07 | Rake: $2.07

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Re: NL5

još jedan hend iz riznice 5NLa
villain je 24/18 1.6 na 200+hendova, nemam nekih extra infoa o njemu ali nije spewy. mislio sam kako moj turn bet izgleda pomalo weak ali on nikad ovo ne radi sa TP tipom henda? anyone?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

MP ($8.37)
CO (Alejandro797) ($10.34)
BTN ($7.09)
SB ($3.39)
BB ($14.87)
UTG ($3.69)

Dealt to CO (Alejandro797)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG & MP fold, CO (Alejandro797) raises to $0.2, BTN calls $0.2, SB calls $0.18, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $0.65, 3 players)

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SB checks, CO (Alejandro797) bets $0.4, BTN calls $0.4, SB folds

Turn: (Pot is $1.45, 2 players)

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CO (Alejandro797) bets $0.9, BTN raises to $2.25

River: (Pot is $4.6, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $4.6 | Rake: $4.6




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Re: NL5

mislim da bi  u onoj prvoj situaciji bio dobar block bet pošto si van pozicije a imaš dobar hend...
bet malo manji od pola pota i fold na rejz..nemora baš uvijek ovjde imat jači hend..
drugi hend sam ili fold ili call pa na riveru odluka,pošto nije rejzo flop a turn nebi trebao ništa mjenjati..

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1. hand bih c/c ako raise ne bude veci od 1.20$
2. hand shove na turnu

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Re: NL5

1. c/f
2. fold

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roba59 napisao:

1. c/f
2. fold

zasto fold 2. hand? sta on tu moze imati, a da je tako odigrao...

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Re: NL5

set, dva para, skala. A ako callamo obv stiže river shove koji ne možemo callat. Rijetko on tu ima neki blef/semiblef.

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Radi stjecanja iskusva da probam pogoditi. Igram .0.1/.02 full ring, ide mi dobro.

Prvi hand. Mogao te je callati sa bilo cime. Buduci da je pratio flop, vjerovatno da je isao na boju ili strejt. Na turnu je samo callao, to bi znacilo da nije isao na boju ili mozda glumi. Ako je dizao river mogao bi imati QJ?
Da je imao TTT/444 vjerovatno bi rejzao.


Drugi hand, ima 999, manje vjerovatno 666 ? tu bi ja foldao.

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Ja bi c/c pa c/f river. Jednostavno mislim da moze ovdje imati slabiji hand zbog toga sto tako malo raisa, da ima dva para ili set bi jace rejzao. Ovako mozda misli da ces ga calat s drawom.

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1. hand bi c/f jer će check behindat sve Tx i tome slično koji imaju sd value,a betat sve jače, a s obzirom koliko je draw-ova došlo nisi dobar nikad ako beta.
2. hand sam bliže foldu. Jedino što može tako odigrat je AK što je opet mala vjerojatnost kad te samo platio preflop i pitanje je jel će to napravit s KQ, a to je dakle samo 1 kombinacija od koje si jači.

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Rear_Admiral napisao:

Ja bi c/c pa c/f river. Jednostavno mislim da moze ovdje imati slabiji hand zbog toga sto tako malo raisa, da ima dva para ili set bi jace rejzao. Ovako mozda misli da ces ga calat s drawom.

zašto check turn?
na taj način propuštamo puno valuea od slabijih hendova..??

If the player is unlikely to pay you off,
he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!
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roba59 napisao:

1. c/f
2. fold

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ovo je najispravnije daleko.

1. hand ne beatas nista sta on beta, ako te calla sa nekim showdown value handom chekirat ce behind i nadat se da je dobar, ako ne betat ce skalu/boju.

2. tu najvjerojatnije nikad nisi dobar, to je jednostavno superstrong line, i kako ti je dfable napisa, ima dva para/set/skalu i shovat ce river i morat cemo foldat.

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Zasto prvi hend svi pisete c/f :S Kad on tu ikad ima sedmicu u rangeu poslije flop/turn akcije? Jedino moze imati 78s,a toga ima premalo jer skoro pa uvijek ima Tx. IMO easy bet(ne puno)/fold.

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Mislio sam call turn. Pisem na mobu pa se znam gubiti.

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RufMichAn666 napisao:

Zasto prvi hend svi pisete c/f :S Kad on tu ikad ima sedmicu u rangeu poslije flop/turn akcije? Jedino moze imati 78s,a toga ima premalo jer skoro pa uvijek ima Tx. IMO easy bet(ne puno)/fold.


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If the player is unlikely to pay you off,
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Re: NL5

Ima rijetko jaci hand od nas, ali isto tako s nicim slabijim ne calla. Tako da ces s tim betom vise izgubiti nego dobiti. Ako mislis da ne moze imati str onda rade c/c pa ga pusti da blefa.
Btw. Moze bez problema imati i JQ, to opce nisi spomenuo.

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Rear_Admiral napisao:

Ima rijetko jaci hand od nas, ali isto tako s nicim slabijim ne calla. Tako da ces s tim betom vise izgubiti nego dobiti. Ako mislis da ne moze imati str onda rade c/c pa ga pusti da blefa.
Btw. Moze bez problema imati i JQ, to opce nisi spomenuo.

U pravu si za JQ,moze i to imati. Svejedno mislim da ima mjesta za thin value bet od trecine ili cetvrtine pota. Jos ide u prilog sto je ovo NL5 pa ce jos cesce callati s Tx.

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Zapravo,JQ nije bas realan. Mi otvaramo UTG,on calla iz MP,jedino ako je budala ce callat s JQ,ali ipak ovo je NL5.

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RufMichAn666 napisao:

Zapravo,JQ nije bas realan. Mi otvaramo UTG,on calla iz MP,jedino ako je budala ce callat s JQ,ali ipak ovo je NL5.

igro sam NL5 do prije par dana... i da, callat ce sa JQ smile

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