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26 Odgovor od plutonium 04-02-2016 14:12:03

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Evo još jedan hand. Na njima sam izgubio dosta. Ostali su više manje sitnije.

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MP2: $4.11 (205.5 bb)
MP3: $0.80 (40 bb)
CO: $1.49 (74.5 bb)
BTN: $2.22 (111 bb)
Hero (SB): $1.27 (63.5 bb)
BB: $2 (100 bb)
MP1: $2 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
MP1 raises to $0.07, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.06, BB folds

Flop: ($0.16) T T 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.06, MP1 calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.28) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.04, MP1 raises to $0.22, Hero raises to $0.40, MP1 raises to $1.87 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.74 and is all-in

River: ($2.56) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $2.56 pot ($0.09 rake)
Final Board: T T 2 8 4
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$1.27 net)
MP1 showed 8 8 and won $2.47 ($1.20 net)

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27 Odgovor od plutonium 04-02-2016 14:14:56

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Ili recimo ovaj hand.... meni je nepojmljivo da lupam call na ovakve karte kao sto je odigrao protivnik

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BB: $4.30 (215 bb)
UTG+2: $2.20 (110 bb)
MP1: $1.77 (88.5 bb)
Hero (MP2): $1.87 (93.5 bb)
MP3: $1.34 (67 bb)
CO: $2 (100 bb)
BTN: $2 (100 bb)
SB: $0.72 (36 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A A
UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.34) K J 8 (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.14, MP3 calls $0.14, 2 folds

Turn: ($0.62) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.08, MP3 raises to $0.16, Hero calls $0.08

River: ($0.94) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

Results: $1.18 pot ($0.04 rake)
Final Board: K J 8 5 4
Hero mucked A A and lost (-$0.50 net)
MP3 showed Q J and won $1.14 ($0.64 net)

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28 Odgovor od plutonium 04-02-2016 14:18:49

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Ovo isto molim komentar...

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MP1: $2.08 (104 bb)
MP2: $2 (100 bb)
MP3: $2 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $1.71 (85.5 bb)
BTN: $4.28 (214 bb)
SB: $1.93 (96.5 bb)
BB: $3.88 (194 bb)
UTG+1: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
UTG+2: $2.03 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.05, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.27) 6 2 J (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.13, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.59 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $1.29

Turn: ($3.45) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($3.45) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $3.45 pot ($0.12 rake)
Final Board: 6 2 J T T
Hero showed K K and lost (-$1.71 net)
UTG+2 showed 2 2 and won $3.33 ($1.62 net)

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29 Odgovor od plutonium 04-02-2016 14:21:16

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Da ne bi bilo sve tako crno, evo jedan hand dobitni. Zanima me samo da li bi vi na ovaj hand preflop foldali na protivnikov raise ili je ok odigrano?

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MP2: $2 (100 bb)
MP3: $2.02 (101 bb)
Hero (CO): $1.93 (96.5 bb)
BTN: $2.32 (116 bb)
SB: $2.03 (101.5 bb)
BB: $2.95 (147.5 bb)
UTG+2: $1.88 (94 bb)
MP1: $1.98 (99 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 6
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.06, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.15) K 8 6 (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.07, Hero raises to $0.16, MP1 calls $0.09

Turn: ($0.47) 2 (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.22, Hero raises to $1.71 and is all-in, MP1 calls $1.49

River: ($3.89) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $3.89 pot ($0.14 rake)
Final Board: K 8 6 2 K
Hero showed 6 6 and won $3.75 ($1.82 net)
MP1 showed A K and lost (-$1.93 net)

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30 Odgovor od plutonium 10-02-2016 00:34:02

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Jednostavno sam lud od ovakvih handova. Jednostavno call call i call i river dobije kartu....mogao bi ih izvuci 100 valjda.

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Hero (BTN): $1.42 (71 bb)
SB: $2.18 (109 bb)
BB: $2.55 (127.5 bb)
UTG: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
MP: $2 (100 bb)
CO: $8.05 (402.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.14, 2 folds, MP calls $0.08, CO folds

Flop: ($0.37) 7 T 6 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.18, MP calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.73) 6 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.24, MP calls $0.24

River: ($1.21) 8 (2 players)
MP bets $0.87, Hero calls $0.86 and is all-in

Results: $2.93 pot ($0.10 rake)
Final Board: 7 T 6 6 8
Hero showed A A and lost (-$1.42 net)
MP showed 9 A and won $2.83 ($1.41 net)

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31 Odgovor od Kenny 10-02-2016 02:55:17

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Sam si mu to dopustio, preflop ti je bio premal 3bet, a postflop si radio premal C-bet

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32 Odgovor od roba59 10-02-2016 12:36:03

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Zasto callas river kad najvjerojajatnije nisi dobar?

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33 Odgovor od Stormpay 10-02-2016 15:43:44

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Raiseaj 3b barem do 0.18 znaci x3, neka ti to bude neki standard, x3.5 mozes cak sa monsterima jer na tim limitima ce te i dalje igraci callat neovisno o tvom sizeingu.

Dalje, cbetaj minimalno 3/4, board sa FD i dosta drawava opcenito je moguce i hoces naplatiti to.

Kao trece, river je dosla ocita skala dosla i foldaj jednostavno, da si protiv mene tako odigrao ja handove kao 99 (rijetko ali i A9 ajmo rec da sam callao preflop) bi tocno tako odigrao, jednostavno si mu davao oddove da calla iako vjerujem da bi on callao i vise. Turn bet tako malen nema smisla, cega si se prestrasio?

Iritirajuce je kada pogode naravno, ali zamisli sada da imas 100 takvih situaciju kao sto kazes da imas, da si 100 puta foldao river, profit bi ti bio za 40-50$ veci, dodaj to ukupnom profitu i vidi kak bi zelena isla gore svaki hand razmisljaj dugorocno, a ne hand kao hand zasebno.

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34 Odgovor od plutonium 10-02-2016 20:19:44

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Re: Moj "projekt"

roba59 napisao:

Zasto callas river kad najvjerojajatnije nisi dobar?

Pretpostavljao sam da nije callao sa takvim kartama moj continuous raise, već sa parom nekim...nešto kao AT, JT, TQ, TK itd...

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Raiseaj 3b barem do 0.18 znaci x3, neka ti to bude neki standard, x3.5 mozes cak sa monsterima jer na tim limitima ce te i dalje igraci callat neovisno o tvom sizeingu.
Dalje, cbetaj minimalno 3/4, board sa FD i dosta drawava opcenito je moguce i hoces naplatiti to.
Kao trece, river je dosla ocita skala dosla i foldaj jednostavno, da si protiv mene tako odigrao ja handove kao 99 (rijetko ali i A9 ajmo rec da sam callao preflop) bi tocno tako odigrao, jednostavno si mu davao oddove da calla iako vjerujem da bi on callao i vise. Turn bet tako malen nema smisla, cega si se prestrasio?
Iritirajuce je kada pogode naravno, ali zamisli sada da imas 100 takvih situaciju kao sto kazes da imas, da si 100 puta foldao river, profit bi ti bio za 40-50$ veci, dodaj to ukupnom profitu i vidi kak bi zelena isla gore smile svaki hand razmisljaj dugorocno, a ne hand kao hand zasebno.

Hvala na komentaru. Jedini mi daješ korisne komentare iz kojih mogu pouku neku izvči.

Da, i dalje muku mučim sa ulozima. Smatram da sam podigao preflop agresiju u odnosu na početak igre, kao i preflop igru, no i dalje griješim u betovima i postflop igri i ima dosta za ispravak.

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35 Odgovor od Stormpay 10-02-2016 22:01:45

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Re: Moj "projekt"

Pa i gore komentari su dobronamjerni usmjereni na to da sam razmislis o tome te da to isto pitanje sam sebe ubuduce pitas. Kazes AT, JT, QT, KT, dal bi on zbilja odigrao tako na riveru? Zasto bi on odjednom river zashipal?

A i cim vidis da ti je netko napisao da si premalo betao opcenito odmah mozes zakljuciti da igras protiv drugacijih handova nego sto si mislio.

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36 Odgovor od Kenny 10-02-2016 23:25:20

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Stormpay napisao:

Raiseaj 3b barem do 0.18 znaci x3, neka ti to bude neki standard, x3.5 mozes cak sa monsterima jer na tim limitima ce te i dalje igraci callat neovisno o tvom sizeingu.
Dalje, cbetaj minimalno 3/4, board sa FD i dosta drawava opcenito je moguce i hoces naplatiti to.
Kao trece, river je dosla ocita skala dosla i foldaj jednostavno, da si protiv mene tako odigrao ja handove kao 99 (rijetko ali i A9 ajmo rec da sam callao preflop) bi tocno tako odigrao, jednostavno si mu davao oddove da calla iako vjerujem da bi on callao i vise. Turn bet tako malen nema smisla, cega si se prestrasio?
Iritirajuce je kada pogode naravno, ali zamisli sada da imas 100 takvih situaciju kao sto kazes da imas, da si 100 puta foldao river, profit bi ti bio za 40-50$ veci, dodaj to ukupnom profitu i vidi kak bi zelena isla gore svaki hand razmisljaj dugorocno, a ne hand kao hand zasebno.

Zar nebi ovdje 3bet trebo da bude 0.30? Zar se nebi trebalo zbrajat i ovo što je prije stavljeno u pot?

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37 Odgovor od plutonium 11-02-2016 00:20:37

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Stormpay napisao:

Pa i gore komentari su dobronamjerni usmjereni na to da sam razmislis o tome te da to isto pitanje sam sebe ubuduce pitas. Kazes AT, JT, QT, KT, dal bi on zbilja odigrao tako na riveru? Zasto bi on odjednom river zashipal?
A i cim vidis da ti je netko napisao da si premalo betao opcenito odmah mozes zakljuciti da igras protiv drugacijih handova nego sto si mislio.

Ne ne ne, možda sam krivo shvacen. Mislio sam da jedini objasniš u detalje skroz Ne daj bože da mislim da ostali ne daju savjete ili da nisu dobronamjerni.

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38 Odgovor od Stormpay 11-02-2016 16:33:41

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A vidi nisam niti primijetio da je SQZ a ne 3b samo, u tom slucaju definitivno daleko premalen raise. Da definitivno ako SQZ barem do 0.24 pa cak niti 0.30 nije lose jer ce te opet callat ako imaju nesto, definitivno raise vise.

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39 Odgovor od plutonium 15-01-2017 10:43:55

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Eto, potaknut raspravom "Zašto je forum mrtav?", odlučio sam postaviti jedno pitanje.

Poker igram i dalje samo rekreacijski jer za nešto više se nema vremena. Pitanje glasi, kako se nosite s situacijom gdje u roku 20 minuta izgubite 2-3 Buy Ina? No izgubite na možda glup naćin...

Graf:

Par handova o kojima sam pričao (napominjem da svi imaju visok VPIP ):
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

MP: 93.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 44 BB (VPIP: 67.31, PFR: 9.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 54)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.26, PFR: 10.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: 247.5 BB (VPIP: 34.25, PFR: 26.03, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 74)
Hero (BB): 88.5 BB
UTG: 160.5 BB (VPIP: 64.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 22.73, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

UTG raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, UTG raises to 15 BB, fold, Hero raises to 88.5 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 73.5 BB

Flop: (179.5 BB, 2 players) Q K A

Turn: (179.5 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (179.5 BB, 2 players) Q

Hero shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 58%, Flop 77%, Turn 70%)
UTG shows Q T (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 42%, Flop 23%, Turn 30%)
UTG wins 173 BB

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

UTG: 45 BB (VPIP: 51.72, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 30)
MP: 102 BB (VPIP: 13.92, PFR: 11.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 165)
CO: 91 BB (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 35.90, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 40)
Hero (BTN): 107.5 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 35.42, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
BB: 190 BB (VPIP: 20.88, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 91)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 19 BB, Hero raises to 107.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 72 BB and is all-in

Flop: (184.5 BB, 2 players) 3 A J

Turn: (184.5 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (184.5 BB, 2 players) 5

CO shows 3 J (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes)
(Pre 34%, Flop 73%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows A K (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 66%, Flop 27%, Turn 18%)
CO wins 178 BB

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hero (SB): 125.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.19, PFR: 3.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 94)
MP: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 11.80, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 168)
CO: 104 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 67)
BTN: 198 BB (VPIP: 17.83, PFR: 14.65, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 162)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 3 Q A
Hero bets 13 BB, MP raises to 26 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (70 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 34 BB, MP raises to 68 BB, Hero raises to 91 BB and is all-in, MP calls 1 BB and is all-in

River: (208 BB, 2 players) 4 :spade:

Hero shows J A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 29%, Flop 6%, Turn 16%)
MP shows Q Q (Full House, Queens full of Aces)
(Pre 71%, Flop 94%, Turn 84%)
MP wins 200.5 BB

Zadnji popravljao plutonium (15-01-2017 10:52:47)

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40 Odgovor od pepy667 15-01-2017 14:04:41

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plutonium napisao:

. Pitanje glasi, kako se nosite s situacijom gdje u roku 20 minuta izgubite 2-3 Buy Ina? No izgubite na možda glup naćin...

univerzalno rjesenje koje primjenjujem na financijskim trzistima je ugasiti komp i otici van - setati, baviti se sportom, bilo sto

poker/trzista (cime god da se bavili) ce biti tu i sutra ali pitanje je hocemo li mi ako krenemo tiltati.
Kako je jedan covjek reko : Bog je izmislio stop-loss da nas ucini manjim budalama

Oh, you think SNGS are your ally, but you merely adopted the SNGs. I was born in them, molded by them. I didn’t see the ITM until I was already a man. By then, it was nothing to me but blinding (out)! The rivers betray you, because they belong to me!

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41 Odgovor od milac 16-01-2017 07:19:43

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procitaj mental game of poker jareda tendlera!

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42 Odgovor od plutonium 17-01-2017 15:32:30

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milac napisao:

procitaj mental game of poker jareda tendlera!

Definitivno cu trebati, pa ce mi mozda koristiti i u drugim podrucjima osim pokera.

Recimo jučer navečer, dosada...sjednem za stolove krene igra i ok ide...Nakon 45min postane dosadno i sjednem na spin&go i spucam 10ak dolara. To je taj mental game. Kad me nešto vuće, da jednstavno ne napravim ako je neispravno i izvan svojih zadanih ciljeva. No dobro, idemo dalje. Valjda ću biti pametniji.

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