Tema: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Evo primjera što nije baš poželjno raditi na par mjesta prije love. Hand prije foldam 99, dobijem QQ, tip iz MP limpa (stats 13/2), ja poslije razmišljanja guram all-in i letim van kao 118., a 117 mjesta je u lovi. Turnir je bio 22$, 1R1A, tako da me ovaj hand koštao BI + 82$ profita.

Ironija je da se igrao Hand-for-Hand i sa mnom su izletjela još 2 igrača, oba s više čipova od mene pa su oni završili u lovi, a ja van.

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t1250
Big Blind: t2500
Ante: t250

BB (t61558)
UTG (t55476)
UTG+1 (t42768)
MP (t145193)
MP+1 (t33016)
CO (t64373)
BTN (Hero) (t16229)
SB (t100200)

BTN (Hero) has M value 2.82

Dealt to BTN (Hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t5750)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP fold, MP+1 calls t2500, CO folds, BTN (Hero) raises to t15979 (All-In), SB & BB fold, MP+1 calls t13479

Flop: (Pot is t37708, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Turn: (Pot is t37708, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png

River: (Pot is t37708, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

Showdown:
MP+1 shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(One Pair, Aces)

BTN (Hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png
(One Pair, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t37708

Winners:
MP+1 wins t37708

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Ako ti je cilj zavrsit u lovi, a ne osvojit turnir, nemoj ih ni igrat.. Btw na bubblu moras bit najagresivniji.. Al ja vjerojatno nemam pravo komentirat turnire posto ih ne igram..

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Ako tako razmisljas uvjek ces bit sa malo cipova cjeli turnir ...
MTT se igraju da dojdes na FT tamo se djeli lova zato treba imat dobar BR za takve turnire  neutral

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Ma znam ja da je glavna lova na FT i kako se igra bubble, samo malo tiltam kad poslije 5 sati na MTT-u s 1k igrača izletim 1 mjesto van love.

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Znam kako je to imam ja jedan hend ali necu ni trazit lik rejza ja QQ placam ( oba deep sigurna lova ) flop KQx jedan  :card_club  on rejza ja all in in molim da folda ( kad jos nisam kuzio sta je BR i te fore mislio sam samo da upadnem u lovu ) on placa pokaze AK :card_club  turn  :card_club  river  :card_club i odeeeeeeeeeee  tongue

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

jebiga to se desava, al opet nema ljepše stvari nego doc ko chip lider na FT, sve glatko ide ..

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Evo 2 primjera gdje sam uspio preživjeti bubble - na jednom sam na kroz bubble play postao chip leader i držao to do kraja (BI - 7,70$, 1. mjesto - 378$), na drugom su me 2 bad beata osakatila pa sam nekako dogurao do 5. mjesta (BI+1A - 6,30$, 5. mjesto - 99,06$).
Bez obzira na sve, oba su odličan ROI, završena za oko 2 i pol sata uz multi-tabling.

http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/8691f947.jpg

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Evo još jednog primjera s bubble-a, s 5,50 rebuy. Završio sam 627. (630 ITM), znao sam da i ako izgubim ulazim u lovu. MP+1 (jedan Janez) je igrao čisti "fish" stil, statsi VP 45, PFR 8, bez folda na 3-bet. Siguran sam, bez obzira što ja napravil, gural 4-bet all-in preflop, all-in flop ili turn, znam bi on platil i opet bi bil suckout na riveru. Pot je bil idealan za deep run, digao bi se iznad 1,5 prosječnog stacka.
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t500
Big Blind: t1000
Ante: t100

BTN (t9352)
SB (t22035)
BB (t19152)
UTG (t19370)
UTG+1 (Max14x) (t22881)
MP (t42706)
MP+1 (t108829)
MP+2 (t13921)
CO (t10508)

UTG+1 (Max14x) has M value 9.53

Dealt to UTG+1 (Max14x)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t2400)

UTG folds, UTG+1 (Max14x) raises to t2000, MP raises to t5673, MP+1 calls t5673, MP+2 & CO & BTN & SB & BB fold, UTG+1 (Max14x) calls t3673

Flop: (Pot is t19419, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png
UTG+1 (Max14x) checks, MP checks, MP+1 checks

Turn: (Pot is t19419, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png
UTG+1 (Max14x) bets t6000, MP folds, MP+1 calls t6000

River: (Pot is t31419, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png
UTG+1 (Max14x) bets t11108 (All-In), MP+1 calls t11108

Showdown:
UTG+1 (Max14x) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png
(Three of a Kind, Queens)

MP+1 shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png
(Straight, Ace high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t53635

Winners:
MP+1 wins t53635

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

mislim onaj prvi hand ja zbilja ne bi shvatio kao neku gresku ... prelijepo je vidjeti qq na jednom mtt turniru

ja sam upravo sada nakon sto sam danas odigro pa sigurno 50 onih 12$ sng 180 ljudi... bas zadnji zadnji tek uspio osvojiti citav dan mi se takva sranja desavaju nevjerojatno... ali na kraju sam u biti nekih 1000$ u plusu... i jos evo na onom 27$ 25k gtd negdje 20 sam od 120... igram ko kreten lol

nego znaci i ti picis mtt's?

uzmem neke gandže i ovako kuliram
šta da radiš kad si bog nego da se glupiraš
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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

Premali bet na turnu, trebao si all-in jer je previše draw-ova.
Kad si već tu pogriješio nikako all-in na riveru nego check-fold. Ja bih tu očekivao flush kod protivnika, ispalo je da nije flush nego straight.

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Re: Primjer kako (NE) igrati na bubble-u

taj sad drugi hand... mislim bet je ok na turnu jer imo si najjaci hand lik je platio trecinu pota na 4 izlaza hajde da je imo jos kombinacija ali samo 10tka mu je bila izlaz, tako da nisi imo srece,dosta glup call... 10tke su ti zajebane na ps-u, moja najomrazenija karta

ali da, all in na riveru na takvom boardu tesko je vjerovati da si najjaci a lopet tesko je odustati kad je vec toliko chipova unutra

Zadnji popravljao ThoNapalm (22-03-2010 05:13:13)

uzmem neke gandže i ovako kuliram
šta da radiš kad si bog nego da se glupiraš
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