Tema: Brky handovi

Evo nakon sto sam pol nl50 rola zdonko na nl400 (nisam ni pijan bio^^), a drugu polovicu iskoristio za pranje live igre, odlucio sam opet pocet online. krenuo sam na nl10 i tu cu stavljat handove ko sto topic kaze



za pocetak
13/11/5.5 3bet 2.2 na 275 handova

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

MP ($10.59)
CO (Brky) ($32)
BTN ($11.6)
SB ($10.36)
BB ($10.73)
UTG ($9.9)

Dealt to CO (Brky)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.35, CO (Brky) raises to $1.2, BTN folds, SB raises to $2.5, BB & MP fold





                                                                     
Total Pot: $4.15 | Rake: $4.15

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Ovdje je bitnije kakav je tvoj image, i jel villian dost pametan da cold 4beta ako ti 3betas light.. Milsim da na nl10 to nijedan nije, tako da je ovo foljd...

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Najčešće te ovdje navlači sa monsterom. A ovo "najčešće" pretvori u "uvijek" po njegovim statsima. Ja bi možda čak i callao pošto imaš oddse ako sam dobro izračunao ali ako ne pogodim, fold.

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hm i ja bi mozda call jer ipak imas poziciju a i cijena je ok... na svaki A ili K foldam flop... mozda uspijemo doc do shwdowna protiv AK... ako pokaze znatnu agresiju postflop naravno fold... po rangeovima si 50-50  u slucaju da je 2.2% TT+ ili vjerojatnije QQ+ sa AKo i AKs U ovom drugom slucaju si 40-60 dog (makar je opet optimisticno reci da ima QQ posto je ostala samo jedna kombinacijaza za to)... odove mislim da imas a uglavno bi mora setmajnat sa QQ  koliko kod zvucalo blesavo hmm

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Gdje igras, ja sam trenutno na starsima na NL 10 i 4beta se zbilja rijetko a 4bet bluff ne postoji tako da je ovo izi fold.

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nemre se ovo callat, ship ili fold. cold 4b od nekog ko igra 13/11/5.5 3bet 2.2 je ez fold po meni

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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meh ja sam foldo (4bet nikad ne callam)
@andre na tiltu perem

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69/23/13 na 30 ruku, 3beto je jednom od 4 puta do sad

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

SB ($25.32)
BB ($25)
UTG (Brky) ($25.9)
MP ($24.87)
CO ($25)
BTN ($16.37)

Dealt to UTG (Brky)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (Brky) raises to $0.85, MP raises to $2, CO & BTN & SB & BB fold, UTG (Brky) calls $1.15

Flop: (Pot is $4.35, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png
UTG (Brky) checks, MP bets $22.87 (All-In)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $27.22 | Rake: $27.22

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Mislim da znaš i sam da mu ovdje ne možeš odrediti range. Ja bi fold i čekao bolju priliku kada malo bolje vidim šta i kako igra.

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26/10/2.3, c/minraiseao je vec jednog tipa na K92 rainbow flopu
zanima me svaki street ovdje kak bi odigrali

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

CO ($29.76)
BTN ($25)
SB ($25)
BB ($27.52)
UTG ($25.45)
MP (Brky) ($25.35)

Dealt to MP (Brky)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG folds, MP (Brky) raises to $0.85, CO & BTN fold, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $1.95, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png
SB checks, MP (Brky) bets $1.25, SB raises to $2.5, MP (Brky) calls $1.25

Turn: (Pot is $6.95, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png
SB bets $3, MP (Brky) calls $3

River: (Pot is $12.95, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
SB bets $9.25, MP (Brky) folds

                                                                     
Total Pot: $22.2 | Rake: $0.64

Winners:
SB wins $21.56




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3bet flop na cca 9-10$ i ship turn. AK bi te najčešće 3betao preflop, ne vidim druge handove koji te dominiraju.

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seta se tu ne bojis?

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Napisao sam u postu gore pa sam obrisao. Jest da može on tu imati set ali to če biti rijetko. Njegov calling range je puno širi i mislim da smo ovdje daleko ispred njegovog rangea, tj. dovoljno puta smo dobri da nam se taj play isplati. Možda sam u krivu, pa bi volio da netko od iskusnijih  komentira  smile

Btw, na koliko handova imaš te statse?

Zadnji popravljao dfable (26-08-2010 21:22:30)

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50 handova

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Roba prokomentiraj ovaj zadnji hand ako ti se da. Zanima me tvoje mišljenje. Hvala.

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lol sad kad pogledam hand vidim da sam ga valjda najgore moguce odigro big_smile

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Hehe, zna se to često dogoditi svima, bez brige smile Ali me zanima da li je ispravno ono šta sam napisao.

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pa obicno je c/mr nuts, al ak je u 50 ruku vec 2x c/mr onda je pitanje s cime to radi ili dobro runa pa je pogodio set vec 2x. ja bi odigrao isto ko i ti, nist ne beatas osim blefa tak da je na riveru ez fold. da je flush zbrickao, call down po meni

Fri 2012-08-17 17:50:06»⇓ mungos» POZDRAV SVIM BLEFERIMA
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milac napisao:

nist ne beatas osim blefa

Kako ne, slabiji A, ako ima FD je behind (govorim o flopu). Možda to radi i sa 99-JJ, hero nije pružio otpor pa nastavlja sa barelanjem, em mu je turn odlična karta za 2nd barel pošto može repat flush. Da imamo veći sample handova bi se mogao donijeti bolji zaključak, ali na flopu sigurno ima handova koje beatamo i mislim da mu je to većina rangea. Ne možemo ga staviti samo na 44, 77, kao šta je Brky rekao, već je jednom minraisao na malom sampleu.Ja bi 3bet flop za value i da protectam hand od mogućih FD. Ako on želi callat sa FD-om a da nema oddse, neka calla, nama se to isplati.

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ja bi isto odigra hand ko brky... po cemu je katastrofa odigran? Na flopu nemores bas 3betat, kao i na tunu rejzat njegov bet... Villianov line je uzasno okrenut ka valueu i sigrno radi ovo da ga callas sa  asem... minirejz na flopu je mozda i ntfd, pa onda pederski bet na turnu da vidi jel imas sto i napokon river value bet.. da ne govorim o milijun comboa sa str8ovima i 2 para...mislim da si jako rijetko dobar ovdje makar je ovo neki fish type igrac..

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Nisam rekao da je katastrofa odigran. Nakon flopa je ok. Zašto misliš da ne 3bet na flopu? Na koji range ga stavljaš?

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ja sam reko da je katastrofa odigran big_smile

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Brky napisao:

lol sad kad pogledam hand vidim da sam ga valjda najgore moguce odigro big_smile

Kako ti misliš da si trebao odigrati?
Edit: ne kažem da sam ja u pravu, zato inzistiram da komentirate, volio bi znati ako kenjam bezveze  big_smile

Zadnji popravljao dfable (27-08-2010 14:16:44)

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mislim da ak sam vec callo 2 streeta, da nisam mogo bacit na riveru


btw evo TT handa. ja sam snapo

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

SB ($25.32)
BB ($25)
UTG (Brky) ($25.9)
MP ($24.87)
CO ($25)
BTN ($16.37)

Dealt to UTG (Brky)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (Brky) raises to $0.85, MP raises to $2, CO & BTN & SB & BB fold, UTG (Brky) calls $1.15

Flop: (Pot is $4.35, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png
UTG (Brky) checks, MP bets $22.87 (All-In), UTG (Brky) calls $22.87

Turn: (Pot is $50.09, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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River: (Pot is $50.09, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png

Showdown:
UTG (Brky) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
(Two Pair, Tens and Sixes)

MP shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
(Two Pair, Nines and Sixes)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $50.09 | Rake: $2.5

Winners:
UTG (Brky) wins $47.59

Zadnji popravljao Brky (27-08-2010 14:17:44)

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sto mislis da valuebeta na riveru?

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