Tema: ukrao mi resteal

taman si razmišljam dal shove ili call, mislim prije bi shoveao ali su ga 3betali prije toga tak da mi nije da me odzove iz frustracije, uglavnom pogurno se ovaj prije mene, inače bi odma bacio, ali problem je kaj sam ga mekoliko handova prije vidio da je isto napravil liku koji ga je pokrival, i onda je restealal s ATo.

Kaj bi vi na mom mjestu?  oba igrača su jako dobri, inače ovo je 3,3 rebuy, već smo ITM

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t1250
Big Blind: t2500
Ante: t250

BB (hero) (t67814)
UTG (t20613)
UTG+1 (t9097)
MP (t30835)
MP+1 (t14807)
MP+2 (t105749)
CO (t15812)
BTN (t34036)
SB (t55944)

BB (hero) has M value 11.3

Dealt to BB (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t6000)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 fold, MP+2 raises to t6250, CO & BTN fold, SB raises to t55694 (All-In), BB (hero) & MP+2 fold

                                                                     
Total Pot: t66694

Winners:
SB wins t66694

Zadnji popravljao cgreen (17-11-2010 06:09:59)

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Re: ukrao mi resteal

, ovdje je lik teški lag ali ja to nisam znao jer sam tek sjeo za stol, uglavnom kad me ovak mini 3beta imao sam 5:1 odse, sam trebo ipak foldat?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t1500
Big Blind: t3000
Ante: t300

UTG (t73013)
UTG+1 (t131869)
MP (t69570)
MP+1 (t190973)
MP+2 (t75326)
CO (hero) (t61559)
BTN (t61806)
SB (t88862)
BB (t66536)

CO (hero) has M value 8.55

Dealt to CO (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t7200)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 & MP+2 fold, CO (hero) raises to t6450, BTN raises to t12000, SB & BB fold, CO (hero) calls t5550

Flop: (Pot is t31200, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png
CO (hero) checks, BTN bets t19000, CO (hero) folds

                                                                     
Total Pot: t50200

Winners:
BTN wins t50200




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Re: ukrao mi resteal

1. ruka mislim da je fold ok, tim više što imaš još jedog igrača iza sebe. Ovdje si u najboljem slučaju u flipu.
2.Hand si morao callat 3bet jer je bio min i i imaš ok pot oddove, flop te profulao i standardni fold

Po meni je oboje ok odigrano

im all in
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Re: ukrao mi resteal

1. stvarno teska  situacija, imas 25BB on 20 idealan stack za zgurat ,uvjeren sam da si flip ovdje. neznam kakva je struktura i koliki je AV. ali mozda je to taj hand u kojem ti je bitan TAJ flip, mislim da bih stisoO muda i zashipo !
2. fold ili ship na taj 3bet!

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Re: ukrao mi resteal

to je onaj 3.3 rebuy, na starsu 40k gp,

evo predzadnji hand još je 36 igrača,neznam mislio sam ak me blindovi još jednom prođu a i nije pun stol a i big stackovi su nekak zatightali, a ovaj šta je calo je najveća riba za stolom al hebiga baš ga pogodio hand

kaj mislite o ovom pushu? (odma poslije sam isti hand dobio u žiru i isto shipal i ispal, 3 way pot došo as ali kiker mi je "malo" u cu)

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t20000
Big Blind: t40000
Ante: t4000

UTG (t173146)
UTG+1 (hero) (t268078)
MP (t1278468)
MP+1 (t451104)
CO (t288072)
BTN (t888269)
SB (t90072)
BB (t1524168)

UTG+1 (hero) has M value 2.91

Dealt to UTG+1 (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t92000)

UTG folds, UTG+1 (hero) raises to t264078 (All-In), MP & MP+1 & CO & BTN fold, SB calls t66072 (All-In), BB folds

Flop: (Pot is t422150, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png

Turn: (Pot is t422150, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png

River: (Pot is t422150, 2 players, 2 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png

Showdown:
UTG+1 (hero) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png
(High Cards, Ace King high)

SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png
(High Cards, Ace King high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t422150

Winners:
UTG+1 (hero) wins t178006
SB wins t244144




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Re: ukrao mi resteal

još jedna situacija kaj me muči jer bi dobil, inače nisam result oriented, dugo sam razmišljal al mislim da je moj fold dobar iz razloga kaj je lik koji je pushal ss nit i znam da ima monstera, igo je 10/2, ja bi shoveal over the top da je on malo više loose, ili da je bar jedan iza mene manji stack, al su oba blindsa big stackovi a ovaj na sb nije mogo bacit hand zadnjh nekoliko ruku

je dobar fold?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t10000
Big Blind: t20000
Ante: t2000

UTG+1 (t907914)
MP (t446286)
MP+1 (t279557)
CO (t90688)
BTN (hero) (t214078)
SB (t824574)
BB (t714097)
UTG (t490637)

BTN (hero) has M value 4.65

Dealt to BTN (hero)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t46000)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 fold, CO raises to t88688 (All-In), BTN (hero) folds, SB calls t78688, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is t213376, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png

Turn: (Pot is t213376, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

River: (Pot is t213376, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png

Showdown:
CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
(Two Pair, Kings and Tens)

SB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
(Three of a Kind, Kings)

BTN (hero) has
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png
(Three of a Kind, Kings)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t213376

Winners:
SB wins t213376

Zadnji popravljao cgreen (17-11-2010 08:58:54)

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drmarac napisao:

1. ruka mislim da je fold ok, tim više što imaš još jedog igrača iza sebe. Ovdje si u najboljem slučaju u flipu.
2.Hand si morao callat 3bet jer je bio min i i imaš ok pot oddove, flop te profulao i standardni fold

Po meni je oboje ok odigrano

OKreni ovo i bit ce dobro.. Ja bi 1. zashipo 2. foldo...

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Re: ukrao mi resteal

Tilt napisao:

OKreni ovo i bit ce dobro.. Ja bi 1. zashipo 2. foldo...

Jel mi možeš objasnit zašto bi shipao AQo preflop i išao u multy way pot, jer ne znaš dali će i treći igrač callat.
Čak i da uzmemo u obzir da su obojica loose igrači koji igraju 40% ruku opet u multy way potu ima manje od 50% šanse sa tim handom u odnosu na njihov range, točnije oko 40% šanse ima..
Zašto se ić flipat...
Da nema još jedan igrač iza call bi bio ok, ali imaš  još jednog igrača i po emni je ovdje call jako glupa opcija..

im all in
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Re: ukrao mi resteal

1. zadnji igrac ne moze callat bez monstera, a monstera je tesko dobit..
2. ispred si rangea ovog sto resteala, a i ovog sto opena s HJ..
3. U ovoj fazi moras zaflipat..

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