Re: What to do? NL100
check takodjer
ne vidim bas slabiji hand koji bi te mogo isplatit
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check takodjer
ne vidim bas slabiji hand koji bi te mogo isplatit
Podebljaj ubuduće malo te betove,ovako odigrano bi river checkirao.
Ja bi check. Mislim da je 50-50 da si dobar, a ak si dobar, na ovakvom riveru ti folda velik dio range-a protiv kojeg si dobar.
Upravo tako sam i ja razmišljao.
Mislim da ne treba podebljavat betove, ne vidim hand kojem puštam da jeftino drawa, a ovako možda ostane i s marginalnijim handovima u potu i do rivera bez problema mogu shipati.
Podebljaj ubuduće malo te betove,ovako odigrano bi river checkirao.
Dobri su betovi.
25/ 15
cbet 54%, turn 67%
1.4 AF
CR ili donk?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
CO ($165.1)
BTN ($79.3)
SB ($100)
BB (RearAdmiral-) ($113.5)
UTG ($63.5)
Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral-)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG folds, CO raises to $3, BTN calls $3, SB folds, BB (RearAdmiral-) calls $2
Flop: (Pot is $9.5, 3 players)
BB (RearAdmiral-) checks, CO bets $7, BTN folds, BB (RearAdmiral-) calls $7
Turn: (Pot is $23.5, 2 players)
BB (RearAdmiral-) checks, CO bets $16, BB (RearAdmiral-) calls $16
River: (Pot is $55.5, 2 players)
Total Pot: $55.5 | Rake: $55.5
UTG PFR koji je foldao flop
17/ 13 3bet3.3
SB donker
61/ 26 3bet 21%
donk 75% (od 8)
BB, isti ko i ovaj gore
25/15 1.9
AF 1.4
note: 4way samo call s QQ
My play??
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
UTG ($179.05)
CO ($90.5)
BTN (RearAdmiral-) ($102.15)
SB ($161.85)
BB ($233.7)
Dealt to BTN (RearAdmiral-)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG raises to $3, CO folds, BTN (RearAdmiral-) calls $3, SB calls $2.5, BB calls $2
Flop: (Pot is $12, 4 players)
SB bets $8, BB calls $8, UTG folds, BTN (RearAdmiral-) calls $8
Turn: (Pot is $36, 3 players)
SB bets $4, BB calls $4, BTN (RearAdmiral-) calls $4
River: (Pot is $48, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks
Total Pot: $48 | Rake: $48
1. zasto bi donkao?
ez c/jam. betat ce sve 9x, strejtove, bdflush, Kx i blef
2. ja bi cekirao, ne vidim puno value
Zadnji popravljao milac (17-11-2010 01:59:57)
Mislim na ostale streetove u drugom handu, ne river.
Prvi hand, zato jer mislim da me neće platiti s flushom ako C/jamam, a da raisa full i da nekad ne beta s Kx, ali može callati donk.
mislim da je generalno tu check shove najbolji... Mislim da će foldati večinu K-ova na donk.
25/19
AF: 3.7
ne donkati, fold na donk raise ili turn nešto?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BTN ($146.2)
SB ($199.95)
BB (RearAdmiral-) ($149.7)
UTG ($112.3)
CO ($34.05)
Dealt to BB (RearAdmiral-)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG calls $1, CO raises to $2, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1.5, BB (RearAdmiral-) calls $1, UTG calls $1
Flop: (Pot is $10, 5 players)
SB checks, BB (RearAdmiral-) bets $7.5, UTG & CO fold, BTN raises to $26.5, SB folds, BB (RearAdmiral-) calls $19
Turn: (Pot is $63, 2 players)
BB (RearAdmiral-) checks, BTN bets $35
River: (Pot is $98, 2 players)
Total Pot: $98 | Rake: $98
Zašto call?
28 handova
74/7 3bet 0.0
AF 2.3
call ili fold?
ili raise
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BTN ($104)
SB ($142.35)
BB ($97)
UTG ($154)
CO (a ne zločinac) ($95.5)
Dealt to CO (a ne zločinac)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG folds, CO (a ne zločinac) raises to $3, BTN folds, SB calls $2.5, BB calls $2
Flop: (Pot is $9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO (a ne zločinac) bets $7, SB raises to $139.35 (All-In), BB folds
Turn: (Pot is $155.35, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (Pot is $155.35, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Total Pot: $155.35 | Rake: $155.35
3way 10 handova
13/13 prvi 3bet, primjetite da je MR
fold?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BB ($100)
BTN ($287)
SB (RearAdmiral-) ($189.7)
Dealt to SB (RearAdmiral-)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
BTN folds, SB (RearAdmiral-) raises to $3, BB raises to $5, SB (RearAdmiral-) calls $2
Flop: (Pot is $10, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral-) checks, BB bets $7.5, SB (RearAdmiral-) calls $7.5
Turn: (Pot is $25, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral-) checks, BB checks
River: (Pot is $25, 2 players)
SB (RearAdmiral-) bets $19, BB raises to $87.5 (All-In)
Total Pot: $131.5 | Rake: $131.5
118 handova
32/14 4.4
AF 2.2
fold to cbet 14% (raise 14%)
call?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
UTG ($103.65)
CO (RearAdmiral-) ($306.15)
BTN ($91.5)
SB ($178.1)
BB ($98)
Dealt to CO (RearAdmiral-)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG folds, CO (RearAdmiral-) raises to $3, BTN calls $3, SB & BB fold
Flop: (Pot is $7.5, 2 players)
CO (RearAdmiral-) bets $5.5, BTN calls $5.5
Turn: (Pot is $18.5, 2 players)
CO (RearAdmiral-) checks, BTN bets $14, CO (RearAdmiral-) calls $14
River: (Pot is $46.5, 2 players)
CO (RearAdmiral-) checks, BTN bets $69 (All-In)
Total Pot: $115.5 | Rake: $115.5
1. zas ne zgurat flop?
2. ja bi callo, ovak najcesce odigravaju draw
3. scallo bi
4. nemam pojma
Mislim da je shove na flopu katastrofa, dosta smo deep i callaju samo jači handovi.
@dfable- tražim odgovor ne pitanje
Generalno me u svakom handu zanima bilo koji street kako bi vi odigrali drugačije!! to vrijedi za sve prošle i buduće ruke. A ako postavim pitanja, to znači da posebno tražim odgovor na taj dio, ali i ostali streetovi me također zanimaju.
1.hand, ako se ne misliš nastackati sa dva para na flopu, onda niti ne vidim smisla u callanju jer teško ( skoro nikad) on neče čekirati turn a šanse da turn može tebi improevati hand su jako male. Jest da mi užasno smrdi na set jer da ima hand tipa AJ+ ne bi tako odigrao preflop, eventualno neki čudni A7s.
Možda sam u krivu, ne znam.
JT hand bi snapcallao, nije mi baš jasan njegov line. Zašto nisi betao turn? Nisam baš siguran da treba, ali pitam.
58: pizdarija.
Zadnji popravljao dfable (18-11-2010 16:23:56)
Mislim da beta samo jače handove, da rijetko kad ima flush draw. Pa razmišljao sam da foldam flop već, savršen line za set imati. Ne bi se ja tu zastackao s takvim handom. Može bez problema imati i A7 i A4.
Zato sam te i pitao zašto call.
Koji pacijenti ja ne vjerujem: Nešto drugačije bi napravili?
SB je počeo divljati zadnjih par handova, a ovaj drugi je isto loodi i hiperagrro PF.
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
BTN ($111.6)
SB ($79.6)
BB ($134.55)
UTG (RearAdmiral-) ($110)
Dealt to UTG (RearAdmiral-)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG (RearAdmiral-) raises to $3, BTN calls $3, SB calls $2.5, BB folds
Flop: (Pot is $10, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG (RearAdmiral-) bets $7.5, BTN calls $7.5, SB raises to $20, UTG (RearAdmiral-) raises to $63, BTN calls $55.5, SB raises to $76.6 (All-In), UTG (RearAdmiral-) calls $13.6, BTN calls $13.6
Turn: (Pot is $239.8, 3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG (RearAdmiral-) checks, BTN checks
River: (Pot is $239.8, 3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG (RearAdmiral-) bets $30.4 (All-In), BTN calls $30.4
Showdown:
BTN shows
(Flush, King high)
UTG (RearAdmiral-) shows
(Flush, King high)
Total Pot: $300.6 | Rake: $2
Winners:
BTN wins $298.6
27/20 3bet 6.0
AF: 2.8
raise cbet: 23% (fold to cbet 54%)
Call, fold ili raise?
Notes: all in na Sdraw
call s 59 COvBTN
drugi igrač koji folda flop je fish
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.50
Big Blind: $1
SB ($154.8)
BB ($100)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) ($103.4)
CO ($50.9)
BTN ($144.5)
Dealt to UTG (RearAdmiral_)
Preflop: (Pot is: $1.5)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) raises to $4, CO calls $4, BTN calls $4, SB & BB fold
Flop: (Pot is $13.5, 3 players)
UTG (RearAdmiral_) bets $10, CO folds, BTN raises to $30
Turn: (Pot is $53.5, 2 players)
River: (Pot is $53.5, 2 players)
Total Pot: $53.5 | Rake: $53.5
ja bi ship posto nemas poziciju
ja bi folda jer u najboljem slučaju ste 50 50 ako ima overkarte+fd a nešto lošije ne virujen da bi rejza na flopu
ja bi folda jer u najboljem slučaju ste 50 50 ako ima overkarte+fd a nešto lošije ne virujen da bi rejza na flopu
ima notes "all in na S draw", znači da tu rejza brdo drawowa i ja bi shipo
Board: Th 5c 7c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.138% 58.12% 00.01% 222690 54.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 41.862% 41.85% 00.01% 160332 54.00 { TT, 77, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac6c, Ac4c, Ac3c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, JcTc, Jc9c, Tc9c, Tc8c, 98s, 9c6c, 86s, 8c4c, 83s, 75s, 6c5c, 6c4c, 98o, 86o }
Zadnji popravljao niveaformen (22-11-2010 20:13:26)