Re: Supernova do 15.3. nl50
@roba pa zato i kazem da nisam 3beto
@rufmichan: vecinom je tako, ali mozda je on ovaj mali cbet i call ocijenio kao slabost pa semiblefa slabiji draw, ili protecta hand kao AT
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@roba pa zato i kazem da nisam 3beto
@rufmichan: vecinom je tako, ali mozda je on ovaj mali cbet i call ocijenio kao slabost pa semiblefa slabiji draw, ili protecta hand kao AT
Tesko da ce rejzat na flopu bez slabog henda oop protiv dvojice,u range-u su mu setovi,T8 moze isto imat. Prije nisam ovo nikad foldao,zadnjih tjedan dana sam poceo to malo lakse igrat ako mislim da imaju 2para+
Mislim da stavljaš hand faceup u ovakvoj situaciji ako pasivno odigraš.
Tesko da ce rejzat na flopu bez slabog henda oop protiv dvojice,u range-u su mu setovi,T8 moze isto imat. Prije nisam ovo nikad foldao,zadnjih tjedan dana sam poceo to malo lakse igrat ako mislim da imaju 2para+
Rejzat će bilo koji FD kojeg crushas.
Kao sto rekoh danas pocelo gridanje Pocelo ubitancno na nl50 pa sam se spustio na nl25 i napravio 11BI plusa LOL onda sam ukljucio 9 stolova nl25 9 nl50 cisto psiholoski...
Stavit cu svaki dan (ako mi se bude dalo) par handova koje mislim da sam dobro/lose odigrao... Ovaj hand mislim da sam sjebo posteno, bilo mi glupo foldat pre jer ima preko 10% 3bet, iako sam OOP callo sam preflop, flop je std, nakon checka na turnu, K je njemu super karta za opalit jos jednom, tako da mislim da je dobar check, al mislim da nema potrebe shoveat, jer nikad ne placa sa slabijim.. Jedva je platio i s AA a ja uopce nisam vidio da je 6 sparena, tek nakon 10min skuzio da sam izgubio hand LOL
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25
SB ($19.35)
BB ($38.41)
UTG ($24.3)
MP (Turcin89) ($43.78)
CO ($39.27)
BTN ($25.66)
Dealt to MP (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)
UTG folds, MP (Turcin89) raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2.25, BTN & SB & BB fold, MP (Turcin89) calls $1.5
Flop: (Pot is $4.85, 2 players)
MP (Turcin89) checks, CO bets $4, MP (Turcin89) calls $4
Turn: (Pot is $12.85, 2 players)
MP (Turcin89) checks, CO checks
River: (Pot is $12.85, 2 players)
MP (Turcin89) checks, CO bets $7, MP (Turcin89) raises to $37.53 (All-In), CO calls $26.02 (All-In)
Showdown:
MP (Turcin89) shows
(Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
CO shows
(Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
Total Pot: $83.4 | Rake: $2
Winners:
MP (Turcin89) wins $4.51
CO wins $76.89
Zadnji popravljao Tilt (14-01-2011 22:53:54)
Ovo je najveci winning hand i svidja mi se kako sam ga odigro...
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
BTN ($68.15)
SB (Turcin89) ($58.8)
BB ($63.2)
UTG ($64.8)
CO ($77.75)
Dealt to SB (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG & CO & BTN fold, SB (Turcin89) raises to $1.5, BB calls $1
Flop: (Pot is $3, 2 players)
SB (Turcin89) bets $2, BB raises to $6, SB (Turcin89) raises to $16, BB raises to $61.7 (All-In), SB (Turcin89) calls $41.3 (All-In)
Turn: (Pot is $122, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (Pot is $122, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Showdown:
SB (Turcin89) shows
(Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
BB shows
(High Cards, Ace King high)
Total Pot: $122 | Rake: $2
Winners:
SB (Turcin89) wins $115.6
BB wins $4.4
najveci loosing hand, mislim da je std...
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
BB ($72.55)
UTG (Turcin89) ($54.1)
MP ($30.3)
CO ($0.75)
BTN ($54.85)
SB ($132.5)
Dealt to UTG (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG (Turcin89) raises to $1.5, MP & CO fold, BTN calls $1.5, SB & BB fold
Flop: (Pot is $3.75, 2 players)
UTG (Turcin89) bets $2, BTN calls $2
Turn: (Pot is $7.75, 2 players)
UTG (Turcin89) bets $6, BTN calls $6
River: (Pot is $19.75, 2 players)
UTG (Turcin89) bets $15, BTN raises to $45.35 (All-In), UTG (Turcin89) calls $29.6 (All-In)
Showdown:
UTG (Turcin89) shows
(Full House, Nines over Threes)
BTN shows
(Full House, Tens over Threes)
Total Pot: $109.7 | Rake: $3
Winners:
BTN wins $106.7
Evo graf od danas...
Najveci winning hand...
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
MP ($50)
CO ($50)
BTN ($50)
SB ($118.95)
BB (Turcin89) ($61.8)
UTG ($51.5)
Dealt to BB (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG & MP & CO & BTN fold, SB raises to $1.5, BB (Turcin89) raises to $4.5, SB calls $3
Flop: (Pot is $9, 2 players)
SB checks, BB (Turcin89) bets $5, SB calls $5
Turn: (Pot is $19, 2 players)
SB checks, BB (Turcin89) bets $13, SB calls $13
River: (Pot is $45, 2 players)
SB bets $33, BB (Turcin89) calls $33
Showdown:
SB shows
(One Pair, Jacks)
BB (Turcin89) shows
(One Pair, Kings)
Total Pot: $111 | Rake: $3
Winners:
BB (Turcin89) wins $108
Najveci loosing hand... Ustvari nisam uopce skuzio da smo deep, on ima 4bet 25 na 500 handova, ja sam ga 3beto puno ovaj session...
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
SB (Turcin89) ($87.15)
BB ($63)
UTG ($56)
MP ($25)
CO ($53.8)
BTN ($71.3)
Dealt to SB (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG & MP & CO fold, BTN raises to $1.5, SB (Turcin89) raises to $5, BB folds, BTN raises to $11.5, SB (Turcin89) raises to $87.15 (All-In), BTN calls $59.8 (All-In)
Flop: (Pot is $158.95, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: (Pot is $158.95, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (Pot is $158.95, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Showdown:
SB (Turcin89) shows
(Two Pair, Tens and Fours)
BTN shows
(Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
Total Pot: $158.95 | Rake: $3
Winners:
SB (Turcin89) wins $15.85
BTN wins $140.1
Zadnji popravljao Tilt (15-01-2011 23:34:00)
jucer 20k handova i -15BI, strasno kako nije islo...
Najveci izgubljeni pot..
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
BTN ($85.55)
SB ($86.4)
BB (Turcin89) ($132.1)
UTG ($51.5)
Dealt to BB (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG folds, BTN raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, BB (Turcin89) raises to $4, BTN raises to $12.5, SB folds, BB (Turcin89) raises to $132.1 (All-In), BTN calls $73.05 (All-In)
Flop: (Pot is $218.65, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: (Pot is $218.65, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (Pot is $218.65, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Showdown:
BTN shows
(Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
BB (Turcin89) shows
(Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
Total Pot: $218.65 | Rake: $2
Winners:
BTN wins $170.1
BB (Turcin89) wins $46.55
Najveci dobiveni pot..
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
BTN ($128.35)
SB ($68.65)
BB ($18.5)
UTG ($62.1)
MP ($50)
CO (Turcin89) ($88.85)
Dealt to CO (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG & MP fold, CO (Turcin89) raises to $1.5, BTN calls $1.5, SB raises to $7, BB folds, CO (Turcin89) calls $5.5, BTN calls $5.5
Flop: (Pot is $21.5, 3 players)
SB bets $11, CO (Turcin89) calls $11, BTN folds
Turn: (Pot is $43.5, 2 players)
SB checks, CO (Turcin89) bets $12, SB raises to $50.65 (All-In), CO (Turcin89) calls $38.65
River: (Pot is $144.8, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
SB shows
(Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
CO (Turcin89) shows
(Full House, Aces over Threes)
Total Pot: $144.8 | Rake: $3
Winners:
CO (Turcin89) wins $141.8
Strasno me jebu, puno sam ispod EV sve skupa, i imao asm milion coolera... Bit ce bolje, bitan je volume...
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
UTG ($44.8)
MP (Turcin89) ($67.45)
CO ($68.4)
BTN ($186.35)
SB ($178.3)
BB ($50)
Dealt to MP (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG raises to $1.5, MP (Turcin89) raises to $5, CO & BTN fold, SB calls $4.75, BB folds, UTG calls $3.5
Flop: (Pot is $15.5, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP (Turcin89) bets $9, SB raises to $28.5, UTG folds, MP (Turcin89) raises to $62.45 (All-In), SB calls $33.95
Turn: (Pot is $140.4, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (Pot is $140.4, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
MP (Turcin89) shows
(One Pair, Kings)
SB shows
(High Cards, Ace King high)
Total Pot: $140.4 | Rake: $3
Winners:
MP (Turcin89) wins $137.4
najveci loosing handovi
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
SB ($62)
BB (Turcin89) ($92.35)
UTG ($100.3)
CO ($50.15)
BTN ($50.4)
Dealt to BB (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN & SB fold, BB (Turcin89) calls $1.25
Flop: (Pot is $5.5, 3 players)
BB (Turcin89) checks, UTG bets $3.5, CO folds, BB (Turcin89) calls $3.5
Turn: (Pot is $12.5, 2 players)
BB (Turcin89) checks, UTG bets $8.25, BB (Turcin89) raises to $22, UTG raises to $46.5, BB (Turcin89) raises to $71, UTG raises to $95.05 (All-In), BB (Turcin89) calls $16.1 (All-In)
River: (Pot is $194.65, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Showdown:
BB (Turcin89) shows
(Three of a Kind, Tens)
UTG shows
(Three of a Kind, Aces)
Total Pot: $194.65 | Rake: $2
Winners:
UTG wins $192.65
Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
BTN ($24.2)
SB ($52)
BB (Turcin89) ($181.45)
UTG ($49.25)
MP ($116.65)
CO ($225.75)
Dealt to BB (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG raises to $1.5, MP & CO fold, BTN calls $1.5, SB calls $1.25, BB (Turcin89) raises to $6, UTG calls $4.5, BTN raises to $24.2 (All-In), SB raises to $52 (All-In), BB (Turcin89) raises to $181.45 (All-In), UTG folds
Flop: (Pot is $263.65, 3 players, 3 all-in)
Turn: (Pot is $263.65, 3 players, 3 all-in)
River: (Pot is $263.65, 3 players, 3 all-in)
Showdown:
BTN shows
(High Cards, Ace Queen high)
SB shows
(Flush, Ace high)
BB (Turcin89) shows
(Three of a Kind, Aces)
Total Pot: $263.65 | Rake: $3
Winners:
SB wins $131.2
BB (Turcin89) wins $129.45
kolko si bodova skupio, ti ko gmiko po broju handova u sessionu
bas sam iso pogledat na ptr strasno kak ti zgleda zadnji dio grafa
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50UTG ($44.8)
MP (Turcin89) ($67.45)
CO ($68.4)
BTN ($186.35)
SB ($178.3)
BB ($50)Dealt to MP (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG raises to $1.5, MP (Turcin89) raises to $5, CO & BTN fold, SB calls $4.75, BB folds, UTG calls $3.5
Flop: (Pot is $15.5, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP (Turcin89) bets $9, SB raises to $28.5, UTG folds, MP (Turcin89) raises to $62.45 (All-In), SB calls $33.95Turn: (Pot is $140.4, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (Pot is $140.4, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
MP (Turcin89) shows
(One Pair, Kings)SB shows
(High Cards, Ace King high)
Total Pot: $140.4 | Rake: $3Winners:
MP (Turcin89) wins $137.4
Zasto ne betas vise flop?
Imas dvojicu i ako je koji na drawu zelis cim vise od njih uzvuci
nemaju oni puno drawova u 3betanom potu, a i ako imaju vecinom rejzaju ili shipaju, rjetko callaju.. tako da nema potrebe..
kolko si bodova skupio, ti ko gmiko po broju handova u sessionu
bas sam iso pogledat na ptr strasno kak ti zgleda zadnji dio grafa
Da, al strasno je sta mi se dogadja... Em sam preko 10 stackova ispod EV, a i ostali setupi su bolesni, sto ne utjece na EV.. Mislim da zadnja 3 dana nisam imao nijedan set over set za full stack, a najmanje 6-7 puta sam imao manji set, od kojih su neki preko 150bb deep.. Skoro svaki 3betani pot kad imam npr JJ ili QQ dodje mali flop da se moram zastackat i uredno imaju AA,KK.. Ali vidim da se svi stackaju s overparom u 3betanom tako da to nekad mora doci na svoje... Najbitnije da roll jos nije kriticno, imam jos dosta BI, a imam i 50k fpp tako da mogu uzet bonus neki ako postane kriticno.. Stvarno cu se ostavit pokera ako ne mogu bit barem BE na 20 stolova nl50 jer nije normalno koliko ima fisheva, a i regovi rade teske pizdarije..
Ukupan graf?
imam samo od zadnjih par dana otkad imam ovaj komp...
Znaci u situacijama sto sam oznacio nema zarade. Ako gledamo to ovako kako si ti napisao. Ako se svi stackaju s overpairom u 3b potu a to i ti radis to onda nije EV+. Takoder isto vrijedi i za set over seta. Zsto ne igrat samo recimo 99+ za set value jel inace samo coolate jedan drugoga. Tj zasto ne ici AI samo s top setom...
To se odnosi samo na tocno ove primjere kaj si napisao.
EV+ je jer ce netko 3barelat air u 3betanom, netko ce se stackat s AT na T7562 u 3betanom kad mi imamo JJ+, netko ce se stackat s fd kad mi imamo set, ili s overparom... bar je to moje vidjenje, nek me ispravi netko ako nisam u pravu
ovakvih primjera ima puno al mi se ne da trazit...
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.25
Big Blind: $0.50
UTG ($67.25)
MP ($50.5)
CO ($111)
BTN (Turcin89) ($75.6)
SB ($50)
BB ($50)
Dealt to BTN (Turcin89)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.75)
UTG raises to $1.5, MP & CO fold, BTN (Turcin89) raises to $5, SB & BB fold, UTG calls $3.5
Flop: (Pot is $10.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, BTN (Turcin89) bets $6, UTG calls $6
Turn: (Pot is $22.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, BTN (Turcin89) bets $15, UTG calls $15
River: (Pot is $52.75, 2 players)
UTG bets $28, BTN (Turcin89) calls $28
Showdown:
UTG shows
(One Pair, Tens)
BTN (Turcin89) shows
(One Pair, Kings)
Total Pot: $108.75 | Rake: $3
Winners:
BTN (Turcin89) wins $105.75
EV+ je jer ce netko 3barelat air u 3betanom, netko ce se stackat s AT na T7562 u 3betanom kad mi imamo JJ+, netko ce se stackat s fd kad mi imamo set, ili s overparom... bar je to moje vidjenje, nek me ispravi netko ako nisam u pravu
obv. kad mi neko pokaze u HEMu da je u minusu sa setovima i overparovima na nekom normalnom sampleu ja cu onda promjenit razmisljanje
puki86 napisao:zasto ne ic u AI samo s nutsima ?
Bravo. Ajd sad procitaj post 10x, ako ne shvatis zovi mamu da i ona procita par puta a ako ti ni ona nece moc obj molim te da ne komentiras.
Ja sam pročitao 2-3x i također nisam pretjerano oduševljen.