Tema: 8,8 rebuy FT

Nakon užasnog siječnja, veljača je krenula bolje. Uz ove rezultate:
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jučer je došao i ovaj:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9283/88rebuy.jpg
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Ovo je hand s kojim sam ispao:
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t20000
Big Blind: t40000
Ante: t4000

BB (Max14x) (t603346)
UTG (t834880)
UTG+1 (t781695)
MP (t1878858)
MP+1 (t1064635)
CO (t1513882)
BTN (t2399031)
SB (t1185173)

BB (Max14x) has M value 6.56

Dealt to BB (Max14x)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t92000)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP & MP+1 & CO fold, BTN raises to t120000, SB folds, BB (Max14x) calls t80000

Flop: (Pot is t292000, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
BB (Max14x) checks, BTN bets t160000, BB (Max14x) raises to t479346 (All-In), BTN calls t319346

Turn: (Pot is t1250692, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png

River: (Pot is t1250692, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TD.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png

Showdown:
BB (Max14x) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png
(One Pair, Aces)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Threes)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t1250692

Winners:
BTN wins t1250692

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

nice..  wink

"...Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?..."
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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

Ovaj hand me koštao Top3 stacka za FT, dotad sam bio blizu chip leada. Dogodio se s 16 igrača u turniru. Ribica koja mi je to uzela je podijelila stack okolo i na kraju ispala 11. Ne bi se bunio da je zgurao na flopu, ali ovak... dobio sam što sam htio, da se netko stackoffa s drawom na moj set, jedino river nije surađivao.
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t10000
Big Blind: t20000
Ante: t2000

UTG (Max14x) (t1102571)
UTG+1 (t843040)
MP (t465602)
CO (t1093309)
BTN (t942278)
SB (t663925)
BB (t572268)

UTG (Max14x) has M value 25.06

Dealt to UTG (Max14x)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t44000)

UTG (Max14x) raises to t43325, UTG+1 folds, MP calls t43325, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls t23325

Flop: (Pot is t153975, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png
BB bets t80000, UTG (Max14x) raises to t193025, MP folds, BB calls t113025

Turn: (Pot is t540025, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png
BB checks, UTG (Max14x) bets t262025, BB calls t262025

River: (Pot is t1064075, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7S.png
BB bets t71893 (All-In), UTG (Max14x) calls t71893

Showdown:
UTG (Max14x) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2C.png
(Three of a Kind, Twos)

BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(Flush, Ace high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t1207861

Winners:
BB wins t1207861

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

lepi rezultati, vendar če smem komentirat je flat z AJ slab, ker je u potu že 95000 (blinds+antes)+120000 (PFR) = 215000 chipov, kar predstavlja 1/3 tvojega stacka in je najboljše kar shove preflop, da povečaš fold equity in s tem zmanjšaš varianco ter dejansko dobiš value od slabšega henda če ne zadaneta TPaira, hehe..tako ali tako zadaneš samo 1/3 flopov z non-pair hendom, in je nesmiselno klicat preflop OOP.

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

gratz.. AJ hand ne mozes flatat nikad, to je must shove preflop

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

cestitke smile

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

Hvala.

Tilt napisao:

gratz.. AJ hand ne mozes flatat nikad, to je must shove preflop

Da, svjestan sam toga da je to standard shove i da sam odigrao presoft. Tražio sam akciju s AJ s obzirom na to da sam imao najmanji stack i dobio sam je, lol... ko što Janez kaže, varijanca me pogodila. Moja greška. Evo ti prepiske s Adžijem iz chata:
[0:13:33] Marijan Tomaskovic: Ajo
[0:13:47] Marijan Tomaskovic: just call
[0:14:01] Adzivu: e
[0:14:01] Adzivu: sad
[0:14:05] Adzivu: samo da nema AQ
[0:14:07] Adzivu: i to je to
[0:14:09] Marijan Tomaskovic: ček i guram na cbet
[0:14:10] Adzivu: ili A3 kojim slucajem (ovo je napisao prije mog rejza... čovjek s vizijom)
[0:14:14] Adzivu: c/r
[0:14:39] Marijan Tomaskovic: lol

Adži me "urekao" s svojim copranjem. Kad sam ga stejkao zadnji put naletio je na Bodogu s AQ na A3 i isto odigrao malo presoft preflop. Ako ništa drugo, dobro mi je pročitao protivnika, lol... ako mu ne bude išlo u pokeru, uvijek može krenuti na TV glumiti vidovnjaka.

Ono što me još uvijek zeza u tim deep runovima je da gubim hrpu flipova, jučer je bilo isto par njih u završnici koji su me mogli vratiti na top3 stack (npr. 99 vs KQs - ja otvorim, shortie shova i ja platim, K na riveru) pa nisu.
Kad sam prije par dana završio 40. na istom turniru, uredno sam izgubio 5 od 6 flipova u zadnja 2 i pol sata (ispao na kraju s KTo vs 66, moj shove), preživio tako dugo unutra samo na račun kriminala - krađe (steal), silovanja (agresija) i laganja (bluff). Tak to ide kad ti nitko neće dati čipove na "pošten" način. Najbolje je bilo to da sam imao steal s dealera preko 80% i istog tipa u BB preko 200 handova, cijelo to vrijeme samo se 3x "pobunio".

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

Lijep rezultat.Čestitam. Drugi put će biti i bolje. smile

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

cestitke max

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

čestitam,lijep rezultat!   big_smile

"Valjda mogu i ja jednom u zivotu svaki dan biti pijan"
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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

lijep rezultat. ali dosta nepotrebno ovaj hand s kojim si ispao. ili preflop shove... ili flop fold
plus ipak ft je, svako mjesto osjetno se nagrada povećava

ali lijep rezultat.  big_smile

uzmem neke gandže i ovako kuliram
šta da radiš kad si bog nego da se glupiraš
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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

ThoNapalm napisao:

[ili flop fold
plus ipak ft je, svako mjesto osjetno se nagrada povećava

lol  lol  roll  roll  lol  lol

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Tilt napisao:
ThoNapalm napisao:

[ili flop fold
plus ipak ft je, svako mjesto osjetno se nagrada povećava

lol  lol  roll  roll  lol  lol

Da, nema mjesta za fold, ni pod razno. Točno je da sam trebao biti agresivniji pre.

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

ja ne shvacam zasto je to dobar potez... pogotovo jer si ispo zbog istog i otiso all in na slabiji hand kad definitivno nije bilo potrebe

no kakogod

uzmem neke gandže i ovako kuliram
šta da radiš kad si bog nego da se glupiraš
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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

lijep rezultat wink
kaj se tiče hand kojeg si ispal meni samo nije jasno kaj si ti očekival za flop kad  si samo platil s AJ, TQK ?  rijetko se bude desilo da bude došao Axx na flop i da budeš ti imal jači kicker od njega i da njega nebude pogodil drugi par, ak dođe J samo opet neznaš gdje si a i to bude rijetko došlo

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

imaš tako dobar re-šav stake i idealna spot sa AJ da je to milina,pogotovo na ovaj njegov open on 3xbb koji izgleda dosta weak...so standard..  anyway vgg,nice score

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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

ThoNapalm napisao:

lijep rezultat. ali dosta nepotrebno ovaj hand s kojim si ispao. ili preflop shove... ili flop fold
plus ipak ft je, svako mjesto osjetno se nagrada povećava
ali lijep rezultat.  big_smile

a fešte.

Prf rješi to ko sta su svi rekli vec.

CONGRATS btw

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

samo da kazem ovo da ne mislite šta ja pričam lol

mislio sam flop fold jer mi se činilo da je flop bio k103 odnosno da ga je profulo, jer as se ne vidi

uzmem neke gandže i ovako kuliram
šta da radiš kad si bog nego da se glupiraš
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Re: 8,8 rebuy FT

Ma, ne brini, Andrej, znamo da je bila u pitanju loša kvaliteta robe pa nisi imao dobru viziju.

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