Tema: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Protivnik igra 41/15/3bet 0 - agg 1  na 13 ruku

Imao sam ideju sto i kako napraviti kada sam samo pratio turn bet ali na riveru mi je postalo sumnjivo!

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t25
Big Blind: t50

MP+1 (Renatto888) (t8630)
MP+2 (t9670)
CO (t9734)
BTN (t11341)
SB (t10025)
BB (t11250)
UTG (t10200)
UTG+1 (t9925)
MP (t9225)

MP+1 (Renatto888) has M value 115.07

Dealt to MP+1 (Renatto888)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t75)

UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to t150, MP folds, MP+1 (Renatto888) calls t150, MP+2 & CO fold, BTN calls t150, SB folds, BB calls t100

Flop: (Pot is t625, 4 players)

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BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP+1 (Renatto888) bets t350, BTN folds, BB calls t350, UTG+1 folds

Turn: (Pot is t1325, 2 players)

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BB bets t950, MP+1 (Renatto888) calls t950

River: (Pot is t3225, 2 players)

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BB bets t1950

                                                                     
Total Pot: t5175 | Rake: t5175

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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Jako jednostavno - ako si već unutra s J9s u toj fazi i uloviš boju, ideš na izvlačenje max. value, znači rejz na riveru, koliko već procjeniš da će platiti, minrejz ili malo više od toga. Ako ima jaču boju, bad luck...
Druga je stvar da nisi ni trebao biti u tom potu. Callaš utg rejz s MP s takvim handom i s još 5 igrača iza tebe na potezu...

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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

shipping all day... osim ako si fucking nit, onda samo snapcallaj -.-

Tko se moli i vjeruje u Isusa Krista, Isus će ga dočekati na času njegove smrti
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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

ez shove

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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Max_VZ napisao:

Jako jednostavno - ako si već unutra s J9s u toj fazi i uloviš boju, ideš na izvlačenje max. value, znači rejz na riveru, koliko već procjeniš da će platiti, minrejz ili malo više od toga. Ako ima jaču boju, bad luck...
Druga je stvar da nisi ni trebao biti u tom potu. Callaš utg rejz s MP s takvim handom i s još 5 igrača iza tebe na potezu...

ok je call skoro 200bb deep IP protiv fisha

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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Samo sam callao river jer sam imao onaj fuj osjecaj da sam slab i bio sam u pravu, imao je Ks5s...
14 handova kasnije ispao sam sa KsJs kada sam OOP flopao TP i flush draw, zastakao se protiv B...imao je QQ koje su naravno izdrazale!

Uopce mi je bilo drago da sam sudjelovao u turniru i igrao kako najbolje znam...bez straha od cinjenice da je BI $215 i da nikada nisam igrao tako velik turnir (dobio ulaznicu na sng satelitu za 375 FPP)...

Tnx na odgovorima

Zadnji popravljao Renatto888 (07-03-2011 18:13:27)

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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Tilt napisao:

ez shove

Tilt napisao:

ok je call skoro 200bb deep IP protiv fisha

bio je  flip, il cu dobit  il cu izgubit -vis  da  je  50-50
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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

puki, pod tim ok je call misli na preflop wink

BUBBLE BOY
Stars: Adzivu
FTP: Zagavu
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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Nema tu "osjećaja", pogotovo ne nakon što s nekim odigraš samo 13 handova i nemaš nikakav history. Tu si trebao poginuti s tim handom kad si već ulovio boju.
Isto tako, KJs s kojim si poginuo si, bar koliko si opisao, overplayao. Bio si još preko 100bb deep i s tom dubinom stacka ne bi trebao ginuti na drawu. To je bar moje mišljenje.

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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Max za mene si se dokazao kao solidni MTT igrac i cijenim tvoje misljenje ali u tom trenu sam vidio samo jedan nacin kako odigrati ovaj hand!

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t50
Big Blind: t100

SB (Renatto888) (t4275)
BB (t12050)
UTG (t9978)
UTG+1 (t11097)
MP (t8550)
MP+1 (t13675)
MP+2 (t9725)
CO (t9525)
BTN (t11125)

SB (Renatto888) has M value 28.5

Dealt to SB (Renatto888)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t150)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP fold, MP+1 raises to t300, MP+2 calls t300, CO folds, BTN calls t300, SB (Renatto888) calls t250, BB calls t200

Flop: (Pot is t1500, 5 players)

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SB (Renatto888) checks, BB checks, MP+1 checks, MP+2 bets t800, BTN calls t800, SB (Renatto888) raises to t3975 (All-In), BB & MP+1 fold, MP+2 calls t3175, BTN raises to t10825 (All-In), MP+2 folds,

Turn: (Pot is t13425, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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River: (Pot is t13425, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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Showdown:
SB (Renatto888) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png
(One Pair, Jacks)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
(One Pair, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t13425

Winners:
BTN wins t13425

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Re: Js9s - 13. hand Sunday million - sto na riveru?

Max_VZ napisao:

Jako jednostavno - ako si već unutra s J9s u toj fazi i uloviš boju, ideš na izvlačenje max. value, znači rejz na riveru, koliko već procjeniš da će platiti, minrejz ili malo više od toga. Ako ima jaču boju, bad luck...
Druga je stvar da nisi ni trebao biti u tom potu. Callaš utg rejz s MP s takvim handom i s još 5 igrača iza tebe na potezu...

Max_VZ napisao:

Nema tu "osjećaja", pogotovo ne nakon što s nekim odigraš samo 13 handova i nemaš nikakav history.

uglavnom se slažem s ovim što je Max napisao, s time da bi ja i raise turn. ipak na turnu imaš 3rd nuts ako samo callaš propustiš value koji bi dobio od A :card_spadex  i K :card_spadex handova

Just admitting you are a fish is a big step forward!
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