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151 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 10-08-2011 01:19:30

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Re: Micros

je ovo po vama ok odigrano?
mogao sam standardno bet bet bet ali sam se odlučio za ovaj line jer će često ovdje imat J i betat turn,
pa s rejzom mogu napunit pot i ugurat cijeli stack do rivera...

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Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

MP ($20)
CO (Hero) ($38.16)
BTN ($18.9)
SB ($26.01)
BB ($20.89)
UTG ($21.52)

Dealt to CO (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG & MP fold, CO (Hero) raises to $0.6, BTN calls $0.6, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $1.5, 2 players)

CO (Hero) bets $1, BTN calls $1

Turn: (Pot is $3.5, 2 players)

CO (Hero) checks, BTN bets $2.62, CO (Hero) raises to $6.6, BTN calls $3.98

River: (Pot is $16.7, 2 players)

CO (Hero) bets $29.96 (All-In), BTN calls $10.7 (All-In)

Showdown:
BTN shows

(Two Pair, Jacks and Eights)

CO (Hero) has

(Two Pair, Aces and Eights)

Total Pot: $57.36 | Rake: $1.9

Winners:
CO (Hero) wins $55.46

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152 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 10-08-2011 01:30:37

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Re: Micros

protiv unknowna..?
check fold ili bet fold?
ako betamo i calla, river dođe blank, dobar check fold?

na prethodnoj stranici je također hend koji sam postao za koje me zanima mišljenje!

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Big Blind: $0.20

MP (Hero) ($25.31)
CO ($20)
BTN ($33.55)
SB ($16.21)
BB ($20)
UTG ($20)

Dealt to MP (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.5)

UTG checks, MP (Hero) raises to $0.8, CO calls $0.8, BTN folds, SB calls $0.7, BB folds, UTG calls $0.6

Flop: (Pot is $3.4, 4 players)

SB checks, UTG checks, MP (Hero) bets $2.2, CO calls $2.2, SB & UTG fold

Turn: (Pot is $7.8, 2 players)

River: (Pot is $7.8, 2 players)

Total Pot: $7.8 | Rake: $7.8

Zadnji popravljao RedDevil_7 (10-08-2011 01:31:46)

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153 Odgovor od Andre_787 10-08-2011 01:45:00

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Re: Micros

mislim da je dobar river fold s AQ jer prema stacku i bet sizeovima ne izgleda kao fish i ne vjerujem da valuea beta puno slabijeg na riveru

AA- hand, unknown protivnik?
ja bi radje nastavio betat turn da dobijemo valuea od fd, Jx handova. i ako uzmemo c/r line necemo uvijek dobit b/c od JT, J9 tipa handova koji bi callali turn bet a mozda i river bet

nista pametno u vezi zadnjeg handa

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154 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 10-08-2011 02:00:59

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Re: Micros

Andre_787 napisao:

mislim da je dobar river fold s AQ jer prema stacku i bet sizeovima ne izgleda kao fish i ne vjerujem da valuea beta puno slabijeg na riveru
AA- hand, unknown protivnik?
ja bi radje nastavio betat turn da dobijemo valuea od fd, Jx handova. i ako uzmemo c/r line necemo uvijek dobit b/c od JT, J9 tipa handova koji bi callali turn bet a mozda i river bet
nista pametno u vezi zadnjeg handa

da u AA hendu protivnik je unknown i neznam dali će sa J callat turn rejz i neznam dali će na riveru callat bet ako 3 bar..
ali ako calla turn rejz, ne vidim kako može bacit na blank river...išao sam po max value, i dobio ga i imam odma notese na njemu..
al slažem se da nije najoptimalniji play protiv unknowna, bolje je bet bet bet, samo meni je bio cilj ugurat sve unutra a to sam jedino mogao sa ovim lineom pa me zanimalo dali je ovo loš play, odnosno koji je bolji...

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155 Odgovor od Tonac 10-08-2011 02:06:58

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Re: Micros

AQ- vs unknowna najcesce bi donkao ovaj flop i isao na 3str valuea (ako se bord dobro poslozi), c/c nije los ali cesto cemo izgubit nesto valuea i davat free karte a i puno je nezgodnih turnova i rivera koje cemo tesko odigrat.
Ovako odigrano mislim da imamo easy call, nismo mogli dobit bolji river ni bolje oddse. Ovi c/c lineovi su dosta nezgodni i razmisli zasto ih uzimas odnosno kamo lezi value u njima.. vs vecine igraca na NL20 moci ces preuzet inicijativu u ovakvim spotovima i dobivat vise valuea nego sa c/c modeom.

AA- slazem se sa Andreom, nastavio bi betat vs unknowna, mislim da ne mozes pretpostavit da villan beta sve Jx handove kad neznas nista o njemu.

JJ- i bet/fold i c/f su mi ok, u oba slucaja bi c/f river. Malo vise preferiram c/f na turnu.

when you feel like quitting think about why you started..

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156 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 11-08-2011 17:00:17

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Re: Micros

button je ribetina koja nezna za fold na 4bet, kamoli 3bet...
3bettor ima 11% 3bet, s cutoffa čak 43%, imam ga na preko 100 hendova...
preflop call možda?
šta na flopu?

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Big Blind: $0.20

BTN ($30.42)
SB ($20.11)
BB (Hero) ($22.14)
UTG ($35.43)
CO ($23.97)

Dealt to BB (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG raises to $0.6, CO raises to $2.1, BTN calls $2.1, SB folds, BB (Hero) raises to $6.6, UTG & CO fold, BTN calls $4.5

Flop: (Pot is $16, 2 players)

Turn: (Pot is $16, 2 players)

River: (Pot is $16, 2 players)

Total Pot: $16 | Rake: $16

Zadnji popravljao RedDevil_7 (11-08-2011 17:10:10)

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157 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 11-08-2011 17:03:18

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Re: Micros

nemam neki info na njemu...
bet/fold je dobar ili bi bolji play bio check behind??

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Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

MP ($39.12)
CO (Hero) ($33.9)
BTN ($21.81)
SB ($21.59)
BB ($30.97)
UTG ($19.4)

Dealt to CO (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.4, CO (Hero) calls $0.4, BTN folds, SB calls $0.3, BB folds

Flop: (Pot is $1.4, 3 players)

SB checks, MP checks, CO (Hero) bets $1, SB calls $1, MP folds

Turn: (Pot is $3.4, 2 players)

SB checks, CO (Hero) bets $2.2, SB calls $2.2

River: (Pot is $7.8, 2 players)

SB checks

Total Pot: $7.8 | Rake: $7.8

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he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!

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158 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 11-08-2011 17:08:03

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Re: Micros

protivnik igra 20/18/3.1
3bet 9, fold to 3bet 50
na riveru shove ili samo call?

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Big Blind: $0.20

UTG (Hero) ($29.08)
CO ($20)
BTN ($20)
SB ($25.82)
BB ($20.91)

Dealt to UTG (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG (Hero) raises to $0.8, CO & BTN fold, SB raises to $2.6, BB folds, UTG (Hero) calls $1.8

Flop: (Pot is $5.4, 2 players)

SB checks, UTG (Hero) checks

Turn: (Pot is $5.4, 2 players)

SB checks, UTG (Hero) checks

River: (Pot is $5.4, 2 players)

SB bets $3, UTG (Hero) raises to $8.2, SB raises to $13.4

Total Pot: $27 | Rake: $27

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he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!

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159 Odgovor od puki86 11-08-2011 21:38:27

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Re: Micros

vrlo vjerojatno kak se odigralo da imate oboje AK a posto ti nemas nijednog pika vrlo lako moze imat AKss ja bi callao ovih 13, ne vidim hand od kojeg moszes izvuc value a da nije betao flop i turn s njim
pretpostavljam da 89, K9 ne 3b UTG van pozicije, TT+ ce betat flop i/ili turn AJ i AQ isto tako da ostaje samo AK ili neki suludi blef od kojeg ionako neces izvuc value

bio je flip, il cu dobit il cu izgubit -vis da je 50-50

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160 Odgovor od delta26 11-08-2011 23:12:34

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Re: Micros

Salžem se sa puki po ovome kako je hand odigran call bi bio najoptimalniji play.

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161 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 13-08-2011 14:13:16

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Re: Micros

protivinik je regular imam ga na preko 3k hendova..
igra 22/17/1.7
3bet 7, fold to 3bet 67
cbet 46, fold to cbet 65
nije naročito dobar, pasivan je i prilično straight forward..

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Big Blind: $0.20

BTN ($20)
SB ($20)
BB ($22.78)
UTG (Hero) ($19.9)
CO ($32.5)

Dealt to UTG (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG (Hero) raises to $0.8, CO folds, BTN calls $0.8, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $1.9, 2 players)

UTG (Hero) bets $1.2, BTN calls $1.2

Turn: (Pot is $4.3, 2 players)

UTG (Hero) bets $2.6, BTN calls $2.6

River: (Pot is $9.5, 2 players)

Total Pot: $9.5 | Rake: $9.5

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he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!

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162 Odgovor od Andre_787 13-08-2011 14:23:30

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Re: Micros

ja bi b/f nekih pol pota, mozda malo vise

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163 Odgovor od Tonac 13-08-2011 14:28:29

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Sta river play te zanima? cini mi se dosta obv bet/fold spot sta ne?

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164 Odgovor od dfable 13-08-2011 14:30:15

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vs UTG-a od handova koje beataš mislim da ovaj calla KQs, AQ. Ne vidim koji drugi hand bi dovukao do rivera, tako da bi betao pola pota na riveru.

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165 Odgovor od sinisaT5 13-08-2011 14:36:36

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+1 za b/f

Nowdays, at financial crisis, I dont give people to much kredit for second and third barrel!

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166 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 13-08-2011 14:38:19

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da, i ja sam beto ovdje točno 5.40$ i dobio call od QJ, e sad kao što sam i reko gore da je protivnik prilično pasivan...
na riveru sam bio zbunjen jer sam znao da tako odigrava top 2, pasivno i bez rejza...
on na riveru check behinda AQ, KQ, za value beta sve što je jače od mene...samo protiv njega sam čak uzeo u obzir i check/ fold line na riveru ali mi je bilo malo preweak pa reko ništa od toga

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167 Odgovor od dfable 13-08-2011 15:07:38

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Sada vidim da ste 5 handed, može imati QJ u rangeu, ali po meni je bet na riveru dobar.

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168 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 09-12-2011 13:21:32

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evo trenutno igram na starsima pod stejkom, makar je ovaj projekt gotov i zadovoljan sam rezultatima nastavit ću ovdje postati neke hendove da ne otvaram bezveze drugi topic..dakle, dobio sam stake za nl5 i vrlo uskoro prelazim na nl10..

evo par hendova za koje me zanima vaš mišljenje..
bb je ribetina...imam ga na malo hendova al znam da je station i da jednostavno nezna što radi..
uglavnom imam ga na nekih 30-ak hendova igra 56/12, co igra 23/6/1.4 na 85 hendova tak da ni to baš nije reprezentativan podatak...
kad ja betam, dobivam minrejz od ribe i shove od co-a...razmišljao sam da nemogu ovo bacit jer ako co ima ikakav uvid u igru BB-a da će imat dosta širi shove range ovdje...dal je ovde call uopće dobar ili bi ovo bacili? uzmite u obzir da je ovo nl5 i da znam vidjeti smješne hendove u ovom spotu

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Big Blind: $0.05

UTG ($9.97)
CO ($5.5)
BTN ($3.38)
SB (Hero) ($5.65)
BB ($3.99)

Dealt to SB (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG folds, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, SB (Hero) raises to $0.2, BB calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15

Flop: (Pot is $0.6, 3 players)

SB (Hero) bets $0.4, BB raises to $0.8, CO calls $0.8, SB (Hero) raises to $2.8, BB raises to $3.79 (All-In), CO raises to $5.3 (All-In), SB (Hero) calls $2.5

Turn: (Pot is $14.99, 3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (Pot is $14.99, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Total Pot: $14.99 | Rake: $14.99

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169 Odgovor od Rear_Admiral 09-12-2011 13:24:38

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Ne mozes to baciti... Odigrao bih kao i ti.

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170 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 09-12-2011 13:27:33

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nemam neki info na njemu, ali pretpostavljam da je solidan igrač dok mi ne pokaže suprotno znači općenito me zanima dali se ovdje stackate odmah na flopu ili samo callate flop...

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BTN ($3.36)
SB ($3.73)
BB ($1.25)
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MP ($6.51)

Dealt to UTG (Hero)

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG (Hero) raises to $0.2, MP & CO fold, BTN calls $0.2, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $0.47, 2 players)

UTG (Hero) bets $0.32, BTN raises to $0.75

Turn: (Pot is $1.54, 2 players)

River: (Pot is $1.54, 2 players)

Total Pot: $1.54 | Rake: $1.54

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171 Odgovor od puki86 09-12-2011 13:33:38

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Re: Micros

ship
OOP najcesce shipam ,IP nekad callam

bio je flip, il cu dobit il cu izgubit -vis da je 50-50

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172 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 09-12-2011 13:37:09

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znači nepotrebno je čak i 3betati flop pa callati njegov shove?
ja sam ovdje shipao ali sam mislio da ako se već mislim stackati da bi možda i 3bet/ call bio dobar da mu ostavim u rangeu možda neke bluff hendove ili slabije FD koje će shovat preko mojeg 3beta..

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173 Odgovor od sinisaT5 09-12-2011 13:52:27

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Re: Micros

RedDevil_7 napisao:

znači nepotrebno je čak i 3betati flop pa callati njegov shove?
ja sam ovdje shipao ali sam mislio da ako se već mislim stackati da bi možda i 3bet/ call bio dobar da mu ostavim u rangeu možda neke bluff hendove ili slabije FD koje će shovat preko mojeg 3beta..

bluff handove ionako folda. FD ionako calla shove. Shipaš da imaš i FE protiv srednje jakih handova koji ne mogu izdržati shove.

Nowdays, at financial crisis, I dont give people to much kredit for second and third barrel!

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174 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 09-12-2011 14:02:11

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dobro da, mislio sam da bi bluff hendove shovao preko mog 3beta ali to se stvarno baš i ne dešava na ovim limitima..

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175 Odgovor od puki86 09-12-2011 14:13:32

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RedDevil_7 napisao:

znači nepotrebno je čak i 3betati flop pa callati njegov shove?

pa ima 3,36 na pocetku handa, nemres 3b pa ostalo mu je nakon rejza jos 2,2$
da je imao full stack onda ok,ovak ship

bio je flip, il cu dobit il cu izgubit -vis da je 50-50

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159 Odgovor od puki86 11-08-2011 21:38:27

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161 Odgovor od RedDevil_7 13-08-2011 14:13:16

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162 Odgovor od Andre_787 13-08-2011 14:23:30

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