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Villan: 25/16/4.0  3b: 7.3   na 153 handa
Ovo je prvi put da check/raise...

Koji je najbolji play na flopu?
Ko callamo flop što onda na turnu?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

BB ($21.86)
UTG ($8.8)
MP ($20)
CO (dogx) ($20)
BTN ($48.36)
SB ($27)

Dealt to CO (dogx)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG & MP fold, CO (dogx) raises to $0.6, BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.4

Flop: (Pot is $1.3, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
BB checks, CO (dogx) bets $0.97, BB raises to $3.15, CO (dogx) calls $2.18

Turn: (Pot is $7.6, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png
BB bets $5.7,CO (dogx) ???

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fold flop

When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
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Gle, moras imat razlog za callat flop. Ak si callao flop onda mora da imas jako dobar read i sam trebas znati sto ces i kako dalje na kojem turnu. S obzirom da ga nemas, fold flop.

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foldaj flop, pobjeđuješ samo blef...
call na flopu te vjerovatno koštao stacka, as played ja bi shipao ovaj turn, kad si već callao flop onda se stackaš na ovom turnu..
prilično sam siguran da nema flush tako da imaš više outova, jedini flush koji bi villain mogao imati je KhQh i s tim hendom si na flopu coinflip..

If the player is unlikely to pay you off,
he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!
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totalno mi je zbunjen hand i sad cu vjerovatno ispast glup, al dal je call flop toliko loš play? Imamo blockera za nut fd, znaci tu bi mozda villain raisao sve moguce fd, oesd i slicno kojih je više nego value handova...
Što mislite o callu na flopu, i npr da dođe blank (koji ne completa ni skale ni flush)turn npr 3 of d, dal onda mozemo callati i turn cb sa tptk, ili mozda cak shipat na njegov bet?
Volio bi da me neko razuvjeri ako krivo razmisljam ovo ono

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-When someone dies and has a heart attack, let him lay there and die, and divide the money evenly.
-Have your wife come with you for good sex, if she isn't in the mood, then find a prostitute.
-Stay up all night to keep the fish playing, if all else fails, find a teammate to play while you are off.
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nećeš ispast glup i sve to može bit točno kako si ti rekao...ali zato ipak treba imati neki read na igraču...ti ga uvijek možeš iscallat do kraja ali u vakuumu to je -EV play(bilo da ćeš često foldati na bet na turnu, bilo da ćeš se kao lošiji zastackati),kao što hero kaže ovdje ga villain prvi put c/r, iako je mali sample treba mu dati kredita...malo si dao u pot i bez obzira na  hand TPTK ipak bih se odlučija na fold, upravo zbog toga što na turnu jednostavno nećemo znati dismo jer tu villain gotovo uvijek beta i turn...nama kad pogledaš niti jedan turn nije dobar(osim Q without heart obv); ako je blank on pota sto muka; ako je flush on beta imamo blockera za nuts šta sad...
e sad da imam s villainom historya ili da je epic fish onda se drugčije može odigrati

When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
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sto mislite o ovom handu?
villain je 21/10/1.17 na 48 ruku
fold to flop cbet 20/ fold to turn cbet 0

jel bi uopce bettali flop za pocetak?
nisam siguran kolko ovaj flop pogadja njegov range, pocket moze imati svaki znaci moze floppat set, nekog asa jaceg moze imat, KQ...

mislim da nisam odigrao dobro ovaj hand, uglavnom zato jer mu je fold to flop Cbet samo 20 i beata me vecina njegovog rangea
al eto, prosvijetlite me

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.05

CO ($5.7)
BTN ($13.17)
SB ($5.17)
BB ($3.43)
UTG (Jermanzg) ($5.39)
MP ($5)

Dealt to UTG (Jermanzg)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.07)

UTG (Jermanzg) raises to $0.15, MP & CO fold, BTN calls $0.15, SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $0.37, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png
UTG (Jermanzg) bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

Turn: (Pot is $0.87, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
UTG (Jermanzg) bets $0.55, BTN calls $0.55

River: (Pot is $1.97, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png
UTG (Jermanzg) bets $0.9, BTN calls $0.9

Showdown:
BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Nines)

UTG (Jermanzg) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Nines)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $3.77 | Rake: $0.18

Winners:
BTN wins $3.59

Zadnji popravljao Jermanzg (28-08-2011 12:24:12)

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Check fold flop. Ne mozes cbetat taj board s tim handom protiv stationa, tj. ne znam protiv kakvog igraca bi uopce taj cbet bio profitabilan.

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VIllan:  SB:56  BB:27%  , fold to 3b: 50(4), fold to flp CB : 50%    na 120 ruku
Kako odigrati ovaj hand?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

BB (dogx) ($39.54)
SB ($20.06)

Dealt to BB (dogx)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

SB raises to $0.6, BB (dogx) raises to $2, SB calls $1.4

Flop: (Pot is $4, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png
BB (dogx) bets $2.4, SB calls $2.4

Turn: (Pot is $8.8, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png
BB (dogx) bets $5, SB calls $5

River: (Pot is $18.8, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png
BB (dogx) ???

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ovaj river ti neće blefat tako da bi ja betao više nego check/call,
ćesto ima neki sjutani slabiji A ovdje iz kojeg možeš nać value s betanjem na riveru,
ako checkiraš on check behinda sve osim dvopara i setova...ja bi bet/fold

If the player is unlikely to pay you off,
he's a prime candidate to get bluffed!
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pa ako si s njim odigrao HU svih 120 ruku, onda bi nam mogao reći i nešto više o njemu, jer generalno je zeznuta situacija.

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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1.Ne može bet/foldat.
2.Ne znam od čega slabijeg ćeš dobit value na ovom boardu. A check/fold mi je nekako weak. Iako sumnjam da je sposoban slabiji hand pretvorit u bluff, a isto tako sumnjam da calla sa slabijim. Ovako na prvu mi je ipak c/f. Beataš cca 4 komb. Ax, a kažem, mislim da nije sposoban takav, slabiji hand pretvorit u bluff i da se stoga ne moraš brinut da će ovdje betat za bluff. Zato bi ja c/f.

Nowdays, at financial crisis, I dont give people to much kredit for second and third barrel!
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Rear_Admiral napisao:

pa ako si s njim odigrao HU svih 120 ruku, onda bi nam mogao reći i nešto više o njemu, jer generalno je zeznuta situacija.

Većinom samo check/calla i kad mu ja chekiram turn on gotovo uvijek beta..

Ovako je odigrao 3b hand sa FD...

Kako bi vi odgirali ovaj hand da ste na njegovom mjestu?

$20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 1428060
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $20.50
BTN/SB: $21.59

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with J :spade: J club
BTN/SB raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $2, BTN/SB calls $1.40

Flop: ($4.00) 2 heart T :spade: 5 heart (2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, BTN/SB calls $2.60

Turn: ($9.20) 5 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $16.99, Hero calls $15.90 all in

River: ($41.00) 9 :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $41.00
BTN/SB shows 7 heart 6 heart
Hero wins $40.00
(Rake: $1.00)

Zadnji popravljao dogx (31-08-2011 20:19:45)

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nemem pojma s jedne strane imaš nuts a opet s druge ne beataš puno s čim nastavlja

lik je očito spewy monkey sudeči po ovom drugom handu (JJ) i takav ne uči na greškama, hoću reći ak je još i stiltan radil pu to ponovo i ponovo, problem je kaj je ovaj flop tak suh da jače nemože bit

neznam fakat, ajde neki HU expert

Zadnji popravljao cgreen (31-08-2011 20:42:19)

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cgreen napisao:

ajde neki HU expert

np  big_smile

Zguras river i gg, osim ako nije u stanju napravit pizdariju na riveru a ne bi trebao na ovom bordu. Ne vidim kako ovo mozemo c/f na riveru a c/c mi se ne sviđa bez reada.

when you feel like quitting think about why you started..
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Villan : 20 ruku čini se solidan igrač, nemam nikakve readove o njemu

Koliki raise na turnu ?
Kako odigrat river?

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

BB (dogx) ($20)
SB ($21.14)

Dealt to BB (dogx)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

SB raises to $0.6, BB (dogx) calls $0.4

Flop: (Pot is $1.2, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png
BB (dogx) checks, SB bets $0.8, BB (dogx) calls $0.8

Turn: (Pot is $2.8, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png
BB (dogx) checks, SB bets $1.6, BB (dogx) raises to $4.2, SB calls $2.6

River: (Pot is $11.2, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TS.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png
BB (dogx) ???

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prvo mi nije jasan preflop, nije to breslab hand za calanje oop, meni izgleda ili 3bet ili fold

a drugo ak je solidan igrač, zakaj floataš s rupom a oop si...

nisam hu igrač al mi to nekak ništ ne štima

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Mislim da nemožeš izvuči više skoro ništa iz slabijeg hamda. Ja bi ili bet 1/3 pota ili check/fold.

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turn kad si vec hitao bih betao negdje oko 4,9 i river bih check callao jer mislim da ce on dosta cesto betat river da nas natjera na fold...

e da znan ko mi ga je ukrao... zivim u stanu s americkim stafordom koji lezi do kompa, a ja sam spava u sobi...sigurno mi napa da je dosa neko nepoznat, tako da san siguran da je netko koga pas zna...
neznan jeli neka zajebancija al nevirujen da me neko jebe dok san u betu
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CO je tek 9 handova na stolu,koliko se sjecam 2x je igrao i oba puta gurao 3bet allin,ne sjecam se tocno s kojim rukama,ali nisu bili premium (mesto tipa KQo ili A9s)
BB je 36/31 na 190h,AF 4.3,4bet 0% (8)

Mene zanima da li ima tu mjesta za call? Ili je to fold ko kuca?
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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.20

UTG (Hero) ($20)
MP ($23.51)
CO ($4)
BTN ($22.5)
SB ($10.24)
BB ($29.52)

Dealt to UTG (Hero)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.3)

UTG (Hero) raises to $0.57, MP folds, CO raises to $4 (All-In), BTN & SB fold, BB raises to $29.52 (All-In), UTG(Hero) ?


                                                                     
Total Pot: $34.19 | Rake: $34.19

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Nije bas "fold ko kuca" ali mislim da je fold smile , stavi u stove rangeove oba villana pa vidi..
btw kakav je to raise do 0,57 ? big_smile

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Tonac napisao:

btw kakav je to raise do 0,57 ? big_smile

tricky... smile

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Tonac napisao:

btw kakav je to raise do 0,57 ? big_smile

Ma na entractionu je software koma,pa sa 6 stolova kad bi isao rucno upisivati ili pomocu skrola onda bi to trajalo cijelu vjecnost jer non stop mi iskacu drugi stolovi...ovako stisnem 3/4 pota i dodje mi 0,57... big_smile

Ovaj ss mi je kasnije isto tako odigrao s A5o,a ima jos nekoliko likova na noiq koji igraju tako i nerijetko guraju i s K9o i slicnim rukama.Bilo koji par isto tako guraju.
Za ovog drugog sam pretpostavio da zna kako ovaj igra,pa zeli ostati sam s njime u potu.

Nisam bas vjest s pokerstoveom (odnosno odredjivanju rangea) pa ako nisam bas pogodio range ispravite me.

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Board:
Dead: 

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     26.049%      24.34%     01.71%         5220510475     367250527.00   { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, A2o+, KJo+ }
Hand 1:     36.051%      32.54%     03.51%         6981168655     752156858.00   { 99+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2:     37.900%      33.53%     04.37%         7192171983     937670848.00   { AsKc }

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ez fold

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ja bi foldo askalj, to je 100 kuna a nemas nista jos na flopu, ja tako sam nekad kolo pa mi nista ne izidje a oni imaju neke male i popusim.. jedino ako dodje kec ili kralj na flopu onda allin

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