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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

hehe smisno mi je kako znate da bi vi na njegovom mistu ispali davno prije tih AK a ipak je tardcina big_smile obozavam poker  smile

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

evo mali update sa danasnjeg sng-a da ne bi pomislili da foldam KK smile

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t75
Big Blind: t150

SB (muva90) (t2116)
BB (t995)
UTG (t2260)
UTG+1 (t4335)
MP (t644)
CO (t2170)
BTN (t980)

SB (muva90) has M value 9.4

Dealt to SB (muva90)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t225)

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t150, MP raises to t644 (All-In), CO calls t644, BTN raises to t980 (All-In), SB (muva90) raises to t2116 (All-In), BB & UTG+1 fold, CO calls t1472

Flop: (Pot is t6156, 4 players, 3 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png

Turn: (Pot is t6156, 4 players, 3 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png

River: (Pot is t6156, 4 players, 3 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JC.png

Showdown:
SB (muva90) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png
(One Pair, Kings)

MP shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5S.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png
(High Cards, Ace Queen high)

CO shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png
(Three of a Kind, Aces)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QC.png
(One Pair, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t6156

Winners:
CO wins t6156

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

povlačim ovo big_smile :

Muva napisao:

...obozavam poker  smile

oćete se ljutit ako ja ovu temu prenamjenim za trazenje savjeta i oko nekih drugih ruku?
npr. u drugoj ruci zanima me da li mi je raise na flopu i turnu bio dovoljan s obzirom da se radi o dosta loose igracu (zaboravih mu statse)
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t100
Big Blind: t200

SB (t3228)
BB (muva90) (t2138)
UTG (t2976)
BTN (t5158)

BB (muva90) has M value 7.13

Dealt to BB (muva90)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t300)

UTG folds, BTN raises to t412, SB calls t312, BB (muva90) raises to t2138 (All-In), BTN calls t1726, SB folds

Flop: (Pot is t4688, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png

Turn: (Pot is t4688, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png

River: (Pot is t4688, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QS.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8C.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png

Showdown:
BB (muva90) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AS.png
(One Pair, Aces)

BTN shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QH.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/QD.png
(Three of a Kind, Queens)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t4688

Winners:
BTN wins t4688

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t75
Big Blind: t150

UTG (muva90) (t4382)
BTN (t1585)
SB (t2795)
BB (t4738)

UTG (muva90) has M value 19.48

Dealt to UTG (muva90)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t225)

UTG (muva90) raises to t412, BTN & SB fold, BB calls t262

Flop: (Pot is t899, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png
BB checks, UTG (muva90) bets t719, BB calls t719

Turn: (Pot is t2337, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png
BB checks, UTG (muva90) bets t1635, BB calls t1635

River: (Pot is t5607, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/2H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/8H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6C.png
BB checks, UTG (muva90) checks

Showdown:
UTG (muva90) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9S.png
(One Pair, Nines)

BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/7C.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4D.png
(Straight, Eight high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t5607

Winners:
BB wins t5607

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

Na flopu si beto 80% pota, to je ok a turn si mogo i više 85%pota...

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

krpa napisao:

Na flopu si beto 80% pota, to je ok a turn si mogo i više 85%pota...

i ostane mu odoka nekih 1.2k behind?

http://i.imgur.com/6syW2.png

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

eto mene s novim handom, ovo je mozda 10ta ruka micro stake turnira, bb ima statse 60/0/0
imam dva pitanja:
1)jel PF raise od 4.5BB-a dovoljan u pocetnoj fazi micro mtt-a sa AA
2)jesam li na turnu trebao chekirat
mislim da je callati njegov all in easy call s obzirom da imam 7 outsa ako zakljucim da ima flush, dakle zanima me jeli pf i turn raise dobar.
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t15
Big Blind: t30

MP+1 (muva90) (t3105)
MP+2 (t4653)
CO (t2563)
BTN (t2900)
SB (t2540)
BB (t2655)
UTG (t2202)
UTG+1 (t6344)
MP (t3028)

MP+1 (muva90) has M value 69

Dealt to MP+1 (muva90)
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png

Preflop: (Pot is: t45)

UTG & UTG+1 & MP fold, MP+1 (muva90) raises to t140, MP+2 folds, CO calls t140, BTN & SB fold, BB calls t110

Flop: (Pot is t435, 3 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png
BB checks, MP+1 (muva90) bets t450, CO folds, BB calls t450

Turn: (Pot is t1335, 2 players)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png    http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png
BB checks, MP+1 (muva90) bets t1000, BB raises to t2065 (All-In), MP+1 (muva90) calls t1065

River: (Pot is t5465, 2 players, 1 all-in)

http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/5D.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/6H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png   http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/3D.png

Showdown:
MP+1 (muva90) shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png
(Two Pair, Aces and Threes)

BB shows
http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/4H.png http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TH.png
(Flush, King high)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t5465

Winners:
BB wins t5465

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

flop bet 250 ako te rejza fold.  Ako ne turn 450, ako rejza fold.

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

chillin napisao:

flop bet 250 ako te rejza fold.  Ako ne turn 450, ako rejza fold.

ti to za ozbiljno? ako jesi, moze pojasnjenje zbog cega tako malo. zbog toga sta je micro turnir, jer je u ranoj fazi, jer je tip ocito fish, jer je moguc straight i flush draw?

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

pot,pot all in IMO

Nije da smo da ispred vremena, za nas vrijeme ne postoji!!
http://youtu.be/CNMinQa0wGE
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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

Muva napisao:
chillin napisao:

flop bet 250 ako te rejza fold.  Ako ne turn 450, ako rejza fold.

ti to za ozbiljno? ako jesi, moze pojasnjenje zbog cega tako malo. zbog toga sta je micro turnir, jer je u ranoj fazi, jer je tip ocito fish, jer je moguc straight i flush draw?

kolko god ti rejzao fish ce te platit sa ulazom u boju ili skalu
i takvi pasivni fishevi chekiraju 99% kad pogode sto su htjeli tako da nije los ni check turn zbog pot controla ali jbga trebo si manje betat flop

Zadnji popravljao lord1911 (13-09-2011 00:22:41)

procitao sam ja sve te poker knjige i igrao po knjigama ali jednostavno nije islo,sad igram po feelingu i preporoden sam...
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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

lord1911 napisao:
Muva napisao:
chillin napisao:

flop bet 250 ako te rejza fold.  Ako ne turn 450, ako rejza fold.

ti to za ozbiljno? ako jesi, moze pojasnjenje zbog cega tako malo. zbog toga sta je micro turnir, jer je u ranoj fazi, jer je tip ocito fish, jer je moguc straight i flush draw?

kolko god ti rejzao fish ce te platit sa ulazom u boju ili skalu
i takvi pasivni fishevi chekiraju 99% kad pogode sto su htjeli tako da nije los ni check turn zbog pot controla ali jbga trebo si manje betat flop

zar nije bolje da naplatim fishu drawave? mislim, ovaj put mu se isplatilo, pa ispada da je raise prevelik, ali u vecini slucajeva ce doc neka karta koja mu nece pomoc, pa cu mu i na flopu naplatit... da nisam ja na turnu ima taj jebeni nut flush draw, mislim da bi checkira al treba san i tu  roll

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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

Muva napisao:
chillin napisao:

flop bet 250 ako te rejza fold.  Ako ne turn 450, ako rejza fold.

ti to za ozbiljno? ako jesi, moze pojasnjenje zbog cega tako malo. zbog toga sta je micro turnir, jer je u ranoj fazi, jer je tip ocito fish, jer je moguc straight i flush draw?

a nean pojma. .Zato jer tako pasivan fish ce ti reć kad si behind (rejzaće), i onda mozes foldat. A sa manjim betom mozes izvuc max value od njegovih govana koje calla prf. I rana je faza.. U svakom slucaju sigurno nebi overbeta flop. U tom slucaju mozes i šavat.


Given the action, zbog Ah nebi mu chekira turn. Btw, Ja ni prf nebi vise od 90, jednostavno nikad ne radin to.

No opet, probably ako je turnir od 2$ u ovom spotu nikad nebi folda turn. Šta ćeš, ima ima .. 10kn gg

Ne igram turnire inace, no kad na live igram, tamo su svi sa statsima 60/0. Pa tako odigravam....

Zadnji popravljao chillin (13-09-2011 00:39:20)

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

Ma mozes mu naplatit drawove, samo mi seljacki izgleda kad neko sa AA radi takav faceup da overbeta tu flop, i inace mi je seljacki kad ljudi pre str8 forward odigravaju.  Jer mi to izgleda da je paničarenje, a to je loše uvik, jer svaki put imas vremena razmislit na flopu, i onda turn, pa river,  i uvik mozes odabrat fold button. I uvik mozes rec, hmm, A-ha, dobro mozda je cak ovo call.

Ali overbet i guranje prebrzo i nasilu mi liči na odljepljivanje flastera, pa ka BAMBAMBAM, jebiiiiiga, iman aseve sta cu.



Nekazem da je neki veliki leak, nije strasno odigrat faceup vs nekog ko bi se gamblea..... Ali just saying

Zadnji popravljao chillin (13-09-2011 00:42:46)

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

Muva napisao:
lord1911 napisao:
Muva napisao:

ti to za ozbiljno? ako jesi, moze pojasnjenje zbog cega tako malo. zbog toga sta je micro turnir, jer je u ranoj fazi, jer je tip ocito fish, jer je moguc straight i flush draw?

kolko god ti rejzao fish ce te platit sa ulazom u boju ili skalu
i takvi pasivni fishevi chekiraju 99% kad pogode sto su htjeli tako da nije los ni check turn zbog pot controla ali jbga trebo si manje betat flop

zar nije bolje da naplatim fishu drawave? mislim, ovaj put mu se isplatilo, pa ispada da je raise prevelik, ali u vecini slucajeva ce doc neka karta koja mu nece pomoc, pa cu mu i na flopu naplatit... da nisam ja na turnu ima taj jebeni nut flush draw, mislim da bi checkira al treba san i tu  roll

ma nemoj se uopce zamarat ovakvim potovima,nije tolko lose odigrano samo manje betaj
nek on doplacuje sa bb sa any two dugorocno gazis takve debile,a ovo da naplatis drawowe to radi na turnu kad je pot vec dosta velik i kad je turn karta blank jer ce fishevi platit sve cak i sa  gutshotom...

procitao sam ja sve te poker knjige i igrao po knjigama ali jednostavno nije islo,sad igram po feelingu i preporoden sam...
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http://www.pokerpro.com.hr/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3785   smile

- prevelik ti je pf rejz ( takav loose igrač bi te platio 2,5bb i 6,5bb jer su blindovi mali i imate po 100bb) , prevelik flop rejz, prevelik turn rejz. Jbga odlučio si se stackat , ali si mogao malo laganije pogotovo jer imaš poziciju .
- Ja bi možda 3xbb otvorio , 2/3 bet flop ,1/2 bet turn .

- Zašto je ovaj BB  FISH ??? Mogao je fold PF , to bi bio ispravan play . Flop je odigrao bez greške. OESD i FD na flopu , pa kako bi vi to odigrali ???

Zadnji popravljao ivica5261 (13-09-2011 01:28:09)

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pa obv da je monster fish, calla tip T4 oop,  5 bbova rejz. Nego šta je nego suluda ribetina. Sjutidjdit su

imaj cvijetak u reveru, a u ruci bombonjeru...
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Re: Da li bi vi ovo foldali?

chillin napisao:

pa obv da je monster fish, calla tip T4 oop,  5 bbova rejz. Nego šta je nego suluda ribetina. Sjutidjdit su

ivica5261 napisao:

Mogao je fold PF , to bi bio ispravan play .

Pre-flop je "fish" odigrao katastrofalno , ali post flop se hand sam odigrao

GL Muva

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