Re: NL5 Full Ring
sinisaT5 napisao:
1. se slažem da ne trebaš raisat flop i kad te gurne si uglavnom loš
a pf?
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
ST_Mangup napisao:
sinisaT5 napisao:1. se slažem da ne trebaš raisat flop i kad te gurne si uglavnom loš
a pf?
pf mi je u redu call, da je neki agro manijak bi 4betao za value i zgurao se bez pardona.
ovaki mislim da je call u redu jer će sve slabije handove i bluffove bacit na 4bet, ali ako 4betam nebacam se na 5bet sigurno
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
#1 - sve ok. Standard.
#2 - sve dobro do rivera, al na riveru bet/fold ili ako mislis da ce betat promaseni draw ili slabije c/c, al ne callati cijeli stack
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
rounder1984 napisao:
#1 - sve ok. Standard.
#2 - sve dobro do rivera, al na riveru bet/fold ili ako mislis da ce betat promaseni draw ili slabije c/c, al ne callati cijeli stack
+1
A svako gubi bar ponekad, ali nikad Boža zvani Pub
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
TT hand lik je pokazao J9 off
AT hand lik je pokazao K9 off 
Re: NL5 Full Ring
idrga napisao:
TT hand lik je pokazao J9 off
AT hand lik je pokazao K9 off
Ma sve je to ok, super da si ih uzeo, ali kada bi recimo uzeo uzorak iz HEM-a na ogromnom samplu i izdvojio 10 situacija sa TT i 10 situacija gdje si imao AT, u barem 8 bi ti pokazali jači hand i kod TT situacije i kod AT situacije što znači da je dugoročno neprofitabilan play.
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
ovakve me situacije malo pate...znaci zanima me savjet kako odigrati ovaj hand kad sam se vec nasao u ovoj poziciji
ovaj lik na CO igra 27-3 na 120 handova, river AGG 4,2, duplo vise nego na flopu i turnu
ali u 3way potu mislim da sam tu behind, razmisljao sam o raisu ali je smrdilo nesto 
nekako sam usrano odigrao a u biti ne znam kako ovo treba odigrati...molim savjete
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Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04
BTN ($0.73)
SB ($3.82)
BB (idrgaHRV) ($4.46)
UTG ($4.57)
MP ($4.19)
CO ($4.55)
Dealt to BB (idrgaHRV)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)
UTG & MP fold, CO calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, SB folds, BB (idrgaHRV) checks
Flop: (Pot is $0.14, 3 players)
BB (idrgaHRV) checks, CO checks, BTN checks
Turn: (Pot is $0.14, 3 players)
BB (idrgaHRV) bets $0.08, CO calls $0.08, BTN calls $0.08
River: (Pot is $0.38, 3 players)
BB (idrgaHRV) bets $0.24, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $0.61 (All-In), BB (idrgaHRV) calls $0.76
Total Pot: $2.99 | Rake: $2.99
Re: NL5 Full Ring
jači turn bet zbog drawi boarda. Ne znam jel misliš da je call loš jer si trebao foldati ili je call loš jer si trebao shovati. Milsim da je call uredu play. Jedino mi je čudan check flop od ovog što te na riveru raise-a, a za pretpostavit je da bi 2 para ili set betao na flopu, tako da mi nije stvarno jasno što on tu repa sa raiseom na riveru, ali ako dosad nisi vidio kako igra dao bi mu kredita i callao i kasnije imaš easy game vs tog igrača. Mislim da je blizu call ili shove, ja bi osobno prije call. JT,TX, slabiji flush i na kraju bi ga tek stavio na full.
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
lik igra 58-10 na 240 handova AF-1,7
sad tek vidim da sam jako lose betao flop i turn pa cak i river ali me zanima
sta napraviti kad me raisa na riveru?
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BTN ($2.31)
SB ($4.02)
BB ($6.55)
UTG ($4.12)
MP ($7.91)
Dealt to CO (idrgaHRV)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)
UTG & MP fold, CO (idrgaHRV) raises to $0.12, BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.08
Flop: (Pot is $0.26, 2 players)
BB bets $0.04, CO (idrgaHRV) raises to $0.16, BB calls $0.12
Turn: (Pot is $0.58, 2 players)
BB checks, CO (idrgaHRV) bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42
River: (Pot is $1.42, 2 players)
BB checks, CO (idrgaHRV) bets $0.94, BB raises to $1.88
Total Pot: $4.24 | Rake: $4.24
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
ocajan line od obojice...
jaci rejz flop, turn ok IMO, a river bi check behind, stavrno neznan sta te placa a da beatas, a na c/r pogotovo minrejz si beatan 99%... cili njegov line mi smrdi (ili mirise ?) na draw, nije mu neki af pa je moguce da je SP nuttse, ali ugl check behind river i gg
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
ST_Mangup napisao:
river bi check behind, stavrno neznan sta te placa a da beatas
zasto bi ikad check behind-ao ovaj river, ima puno Kx( KsQs, KsJs,Ks9s,Ks8s) FD-ova u range-u od kojih cemo dobit call, a moze callati i s AT, JJ, QQ, AK
kad te rejza na riveru najcesce si beatan, iako nebi foldao jer nekad znaju raise-ati i s top parom a i oddsi su predobri
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Q8 napisao:
ST_Mangup napisao:river bi check behind, stavrno neznan sta te placa a da beatas
zasto bi ikad check behind-ao ovaj river, ima puno Kx( KsQs, KsJs,Ks9s,Ks8s) FD-ova u range-u od kojih cemo dobit call, a moze callati i s AT, JJ, QQ, AK
kad te rejza na riveru najcesce si beatan, iako nebi foldao jer nekad znaju raise-ati i s top parom a i oddsi su predobri
ma call je na riveru slazem se cudi me kako nisan to napisa, ipak triba dat 0.94 za 5 cini mi se....
ali check behind bi bas zbog njegovog c/r na kojeg smo beatani veliku vecinu slucajeva....
fali wtsd i afq river dobro je rounder pita....
EDIT: mislimda kx ss samo placa na riveru osim ako mu nije river afq ogroman. sa tpgk uvjeren san da bi rirejza turn, ako ne vec i flop
Zadnji popravljao ST_Mangup (10-12-2011 17:10:35)
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
call river radi pott oddsa iako si beatan vecinu puta...crying call
sta je ima?
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
ST_Mangup napisao:
call river radi pott oddsa iako si beatan vecinu puta...crying call
sta je ima?
K 10
na kraju ispadne da sam izgubio minimalno jer sam samo callao, ali check behind bi bio bolji
mozda nakon svega.
Re: NL5 Full Ring
idrga napisao:
ST_Mangup napisao:call river radi pott oddsa iako si beatan vecinu puta...crying call
sta je ima?K 10
na kraju ispadne da sam izgubio minimalno jer sam samo callao, ali check behind bi bio bolji
mozda nakon svega.
Ne... Nikad check behind. On će ti tu i river platit kad god ne dođe K što je u 95% slučajeva i moraš betat taj river. Ti nikad neznaš jel njega pogodio river u ovakvim situacijama, ali jednostavno moraš betat za value uvijek.
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
1. hand
lik je random, tek je sjeo za stol... odigrali smo 3 handa...
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BB ($4.04)
SB (Hero) ($4.39)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)
SB (Hero) raises to $0.12, BB raises to $0.4, SB (Hero) calls $0.28
Flop: (Pot is $0.8, 2 players)
BB bets $0.52, SB (Hero) calls $0.52
Turn: (Pot is $1.84, 2 players)
BB bets $1.16, SB (Hero)?
2. hand
lik na 85 handova 40/10/6.0
fold to cbet: 38; turn AF: 6.0
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Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04
MP (Hero) ($4.2)
CO ($4)
BTN ($6.92)
SB ($6.97)
BB ($3.98)
UTG ($4)
Dealt to MP (Hero)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)
UTG folds, MP (Hero) raises to $0.12, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.08
Flop: (Pot is $0.26, 2 players)
BB checks, MP (Hero) bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16
Turn: (Pot is $0.58, 2 players)
BB checks, MP (Hero) bets $0.38, BB raises to $1.72, MP (Hero) calls $1.34
River: (Pot is $4.02, 2 players)
BB bets $1.94, MP (Hero) folds
Total Pot: $5.96 | Rake: $0.1
Winners:
BB wins $5.86
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
ajmo decki i cure molimkomentare....
Re: NL5 Full Ring
prvi hand 4bet do dolar ili fold
procitao sam ja sve te poker knjige i igrao po knjigama ali jednostavno nije islo,sad igram po feelingu i preporoden sam...
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
lika imam na 35 handova i igra 40-5 AF 0,8 3bet 0
koji mu je tu range i jel ovo push ili fold?
znam da ne bi trebao foldati KK ali lik je snap raiso tj 5betao pa eto da pitam
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Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04
SB ($4.1)
BB ($2.92)
UTG ($4.14)
MP ($4.1)
CO ($5.12)
BTN (idrgaHRV) ($4.14)
Dealt to BTN (idrgaHRV)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)
UTG raises to $0.08, MP folds, CO raises to $0.3, BTN (idrgaHRV) raises to $0.68, SB & BB fold, UTG raises to $2.2, CO folds
Flop: (Pot is $3.24, 2 players)
Turn: (Pot is $3.24, 2 players)
River: (Pot is $3.24, 2 players)
Total Pot: $3.24 | Rake: $3.24
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
uvijek dadnem call i uvijek dadne aseve i uvijek cu rec da dadnes call
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
Andre_787 napisao:
uvijek dadnem call i uvijek dadne aseve i uvijek cu rec da dadnes call
kad vidiš AA pamtiš, a kad vidiš A2o onda zaboraviš sve u svemu naravno da nećeš bacit, nemoj biti lud - premali sample, prenenormalni statovi, premali limit - šta god uzmeš u obzir ovo je call osim kad naletiš na AA pa odlučiš da možda nisi trebao callat
P.S. veći reraise!!! 
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
ovo kad mi napravi odvalio bi ga tastaturom
lik na 120 handova igra 78-13 AF 2,5
AF flop 3,5 WTSD 49 %
sta da mu ja tu radim, call pa ship na turnu ili jednostavno fold?
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Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04
CO ($11.58)
BTN ($4)
SB ($4.95)
BB ($4.84)
UTG (idrgaHRV) ($4.1)
MP ($4)
Dealt to UTG (idrgaHRV)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)
UTG (idrgaHRV) raises to $0.12, MP folds, CO calls $0.12, BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.08
Flop: (Pot is $0.38, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG (idrgaHRV) bets $0.2, CO raises to $0.98, BB folds
Turn: (Pot is $1.56, 2 players)
River: (Pot is $1.56, 2 players)
Total Pot: $1.56 | Rake: $1.56
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Re: NL5 Full Ring
i jos jedan takav hand, imam problema malih s time jer mi cesto overbetaju river
pa ako ima netko pametan savjet slusam...
lik igra na 70 handova 97-37 AF1,7 WTSD 38%
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Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04
BB ($3.72)
UTG ($4)
MP ($3.73)
CO ($5.32)
BTN (idrgaHRV) ($4.89)
SB ($1.1)
Dealt to BTN (idrgaHRV)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.04, CO folds, BTN (idrgaHRV) raises to $0.16, SB folds, BB calls $0.12, MP folds
Flop: (Pot is $0.38, 2 players)
BB checks, BTN (idrgaHRV) bets $0.28, BB calls $0.28
Turn: (Pot is $0.94, 2 players)
BB checks, BTN (idrgaHRV) bets $0.72, BB calls $0.72
River: (Pot is $2.38, 2 players)
BB bets $2.52
Total Pot: $4.9 | Rake: $4.9