Tema: from donkaments to mid stakes

Evo odlucio sam se i ja otvorit jedan projekt,naime nakon 2 godine rekreativnog igranja sng-a i mtt-a krenuo sam
u novi podvig a to je beatanje micro-small pa nadam se do mid stakes cash-a.
U malo vise 2 godine uspio sam odigrati samo 8k gamesa sto sng-a sto mtt-a uz 10,5k$ profita,sa cime sam poprilicno zadovoljan(citaj profit,sample je uzas).

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1490/capturehgo.png


Ostavljam se toga iz razloga jer sam nedavno dobio dijete  cool tako da igranje turnira sada ispada,a cash mi je za to idealan(sit-out dok mijenjam pelene big_smile ).
Krenuo sam odmah na NL25 jer nemam motivaciju niti volju za igrat nize limite(pocnem spewat pa tiltat i preloose igram).Za pocetak igram 4 stola NL25 6max-a ako nisam spomenuo.
Uzet cu coach-a uskoro pa ako ima zainteresiranih PM me smile
Navecer cu bacit graf od prvih 10k hendova i malo hendova za komentirat i za pozalit se(tu imam materijala).
Znaci za pocetak mi je cilj beatat nl25,kad budem tu ko doma idem na nl50 i nadam se konacno da cu bit na nl100 do kraja ove godine ako bog da srece,uz to probat cu doc do supernove(trebam jos provjerit kolko hendova mjesecno treba cca za to,al planiram radit 20-30k za pocetak,mozda i vise kad se upoznam za zoom-om).Sve to uz fulltime job smile wish me luck
Eto tolko za sad,pozdrav!

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Čestitke na dijetetu i gl s projektom! i mijenjanjem pelena ofc!  smile

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sretno  smile

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ja sam radio oko 40K hendova svaki mjesec na NL25 igrajuci 8-10 stolova i na kraju godine zavrsio sa 50K VPP.
uz jedan mjesec pauze. znaci sa takvim volumenom nemas sanse doci na supernovu.

jedino ako budes igro par mjeseci NL25, pa par NL50, pa pola godine NL100 uz isti volumen.

sada na NL50 i mjesecno 50K hendova napravim oko 8,5K VPP, sto je do kraja godine 100K VPP.

sretno, i vidimo se na stolovima  big_smile

Zadnji popravljao whitewalk3r (23-01-2013 16:01:15)

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Čestitam na djetetu, ja imam slicnu situaciju, dolazi mi mali il mala u sedmom mjesecu pa sam u slicnom smjeru razmisljao, inace igram 18man i jasno mi je da session kraci od 2-3 sata nema smisla, pogotovo na +45man. Da li si siguran da je cash najbolji odabir buduci da imas vise iskustva u sng-ima? Imas zahvalnu alternativu u hyperima s kojima mozes imati puno malih sessiona tak da mijenjaje pelena ne bude problem.
GL s projektom.

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Sretno sa projektom i cestitke na dijetetu! Mislim da uz fulltime posao i dijete da ti je najbolje igrati ZOOM jer ces veci voluem napraviti preko ZOOM-a. Naravno bolje je igrati regularne stolove, ali za volume nabolji ti je ZOOM jer mozes bez problema igrajuci 4 stola napraviti 40.000-50.000 ruku mjesecno.

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cestitke mich na prinovi i gl u projektu.. smile

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prije svega čestitke na potomku . Za stolovima se vidimo i gl

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whitewalk3r napisao:

jedino ako budes igro par mjeseci NL25, pa par NL50, pa pola godine NL100 uz isti volumen.

nadam se da budem big_smile al supernova nije sad prioritet nego samo beatanje casha a ovo kad dođe dođe..

hrasca napisao:

Da li si siguran da je cash najbolji odabir buduci da imas vise iskustva u sng-ima?

mozda i nije ali vec dugo vremena se spremam na cash tako da mi je sad to dobro sjelo..

Sholja napisao:

za volume nabolji ti je ZOOM jer mozes bez problema igrajuci 4 stola napraviti 40.000-50.000 ruku mjesecno

to moram jos malo proucit,neznam igrat zoom,odnosno neznam kakva je tamo dinamika i rangevi i dal se razlikuju od obicnog 6maxa..

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Ovako,evo prvog updatea,odigrano cca 15k hendova,naravno nisam zadovoljan cim je zelena linija u minusu al sta se moze.prvih 5k je bila neka adaptacija na cash,a nakon toga je krenula dosta bolje al su me sjebali natkupi pa sam BE drugih 10k
stavit cu i statse pa ak neko hoce prokomentirat sta valja a sta nevalja.
opcenito sam zadovoljan igrom al vidim i sam da jos imam problema s igranjem 3bet potova,al za to cu nadam se snimit neki video pa da pogledate,eto tolko za sad..

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/613/16449392.jpg

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ova ev linija bi treala bit na cca 75$ al mi se nekaj zbrikalo u HEM-u,ak neko zna kak  to slozit slobodno napisite smile

danas nastavljam malo s gledanjem videa vise nego igre,ako ima neko neki link di ima novijih coaching videa PM slobodno,a da nije DC,leggo il tak nesto di se placa...

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i da,hvala svima na cestitkama  palecgor

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Čestitke na prinovi.. wink

Svakak probaj zoom. Mislim da bi čak zoom bio bolji za početnika, jer igraš samo svoju igru i ne zanima te dinamika (pošto je baš i nema). Sve ostalo je isto. Uz to ne moraš table selectat, a fisheva ima dovoljno.

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Cestitke na prinovi i gl sa projektom! smile

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možda ti je fold to 4bet malo premali s obzirom da ti je 3bet 8% što je dosta. Probaj si isfiltrirati u hemu te handove kad callaš ili shipaš na 4bet pa vidi da li to dobro radiš, možda si imao handove, ne znam.
Cbet flop ti je isto dosta veliki, ali ako znaš kaj radiš to je ok...

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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cestitke na prinovi i gl sa projektom! smile

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Cestitam na prinovi i sretno! smile

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thx smile i eto za sretan pocetak projekta mi sad ujutro crkne hard na laptopu(opet)...dobit cu popizditis..

sva sreca imam 2 mjeseca star backup image hmm

Zadnji popravljao Mich_Bjukenon (25-01-2013 09:11:13)

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evo vratio sam si image star 2 mjeseca na novi hard,izgubio ove hendove kaj sam igral do sad...al nebitno...uglavnom,nakon 15BI minusa  na nl25 i brdo natkupa i setupa(2 puta KK<AA,1 put 200BB deep AA<KK,KK<AK itd cca 5-6BI runnao ispod ev linije) prebacio se na nl10 3 stola i 1 stol nl25 ostavio(sve zoom).i tu opet na 3,5k hendova 40$ ispod ev-a hmm
pa evo nekih hendova za koje nisam siguran jel su dobro odigrani,jel trebalo kaj drugacije..

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BTN (MichBjukenon) ($27.43)
SB ($24.45)
BB ($25.02)
UTG ($24.6)
MP ($11.38)
CO ($64.98)

Dealt to BTN (MichBjukenon)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/TC.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9C.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG & MP & CO fold, BTN (MichBjukenon) raises to $0.75, SB raises to $1.25, BB folds, BTN (MichBjukenon) calls $0.5

Flop: (Pot is $2.75, 2 players)

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SB bets $1.25, BTN (MichBjukenon) raises to $3, SB raises to $7.5

Turn: (Pot is $13.25, 2 players)


River: (Pot is $13.25, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $13.25 | Rake: $13.25




PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BTN ($25.92)
SB ($19.2)
BB ($19.91)
UTG (MichBjukenon) ($25.1)
MP ($34.78)
CO ($131.69)

Dealt to UTG (MichBjukenon)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/KH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG (MichBjukenon) raises to $0.75, MP folds, CO calls $0.75, BTN & SB & BB fold

Flop: (Pot is $1.85, 2 players)

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UTG (MichBjukenon) bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25

Turn: (Pot is $4.35, 2 players)

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UTG (MichBjukenon) checks, CO bets $2.75, UTG (MichBjukenon) calls $2.75

River: (Pot is $9.85, 2 players)

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UTG (MichBjukenon) checks, CO bets $4.75, UTG (MichBjukenon) calls $4.75

                                                                     
Total Pot: $19.35 | Rake: $19.35




PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25

BTN (MichBjukenon) ($29)
SB ($46.15)
BB ($26.27)
UTG ($31.86)
MP ($41.82)
CO ($35.06)

Dealt to BTN (MichBjukenon)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/9D.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/JD.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)

UTG & MP & CO fold, BTN (MichBjukenon) raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB raises to $2.15, BTN (MichBjukenon) calls $1.4

Flop: (Pot is $4.4, 2 players)

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BB bets $2.5, BTN (MichBjukenon) raises to $6, BB calls $3.5

Turn: (Pot is $16.4, 2 players)

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BB bets $10

River: (Pot is $26.4, 2 players)


                                                                     
Total Pot: $26.4 | Rake: $26.4

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3. hand, nadam se da ima veliki 3bet inače je call dosta loš.
2. hand, ok, ali zašto si se prebacio u CC mode? ne velim da je loše
1. hand, ako već ideš raizat, onda se valjda misliš stackat, slobodno jače raizaš kad već to radiš jer ti neće ništa baciti na manji raise. Imaš ok hand za stackati se, ali ne mislim da je to najbolji play, ja bih samo callao. Pretpostavka je da je fish i range mu je jak ovako u vakumu, kad nisi dao statse i kad se pretpostavlja da je random fish. Hand ti je predobar za call, a stack nije užasan, sad bih zgurao kad si već raisao, sumnjam da će ako callaš usporiti na turnu.

Zadnji popravljao Rear_Admiral (27-01-2013 05:24:55)

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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3.hand 3bet 11 20% na BB na nekih 40-50 hendova,jel stack ok na turnu?
2.hand iskreno neznam,znam s vremena na vrijeme tako pustit inicijativu da dobim turn i river value,turn dobim uvijek jer nakon mog checka oni betaju cijeli svoj flop calling raange pa sam mislio scallat...std play bi bio bet turn,bet river?ili check river?i dal onda callas?

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1.hand -slažem se sa rear-om da slobodno jače raise turn i ja bi se onda zasteko,ak već callas 3b ovakav flop i želiš
2.hand-teško mi je reć bez nekog infoa,najvjerovatnije bi bet turn i bet pol pota river,ak shava bi fold, opet velim-ne znam ništa o njegovom rangeu
3.hand- opet puno ovisi o statsima,pogotovo za preflop akciju,ovak može imat sve i svašta,mislim da bi turn call jer ak zguraš ostane mu 
7-8 $ i ima odlične oddove da calla i nećeš jaču ruku otjerat,ak pogodiš out na riveru i on checkira ti bet i čekaš hero call smile

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1. pretpostavljam da je riba po 3betu i min rejzu na flopu.
as played callam rejz i nadam se boji/skali na turnu inace foldam ako nastavi agresiju. tj. ako nemam oddse za call.

2. ok line za balans, iako mi je drazi bet bet bet za value. sigurno da CO kad flat calla ima losijih aseva u rangu.
a 6 skoro da ne mijenja nista. as played call call.

3. ako je BB light 3betor moze call sa namjerom da se zguras na ovakvim flopovima.
rejz je ok, samo trebas rejzat vise da imas vise fold EQ. as played mislim da je call njegovog beta break even.
rejz nema bas smisla jel nemas fold equity. ja bi osobno foldao.

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Imaš 40-50 handova na njemu u 3ćem handu? onda fold rađe, nemoj radit pi*darije bez imalo infoa.
2. Ovisno o njegovim statsima ch turn ima smisla, ali generalno bih 90% vremena betao turn i rvr, ovako bi scallao jer ti je to top rangea. (izuzev neke herc aseve)

Zadnji popravljao Rear_Admiral (27-01-2013 23:58:22)

Mu-mu mu mu mu mu mu!
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evo update,skroz sam preso na nl10 zoom 4 stola,i tu sam vec ko doma smile do 50k cu igrat samo nl10 onda cu pocet ubacivat opet nl25,trenutno me malo sere ali i bilo je vrijeme smile

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3955/nl1020k.jpg

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uskoro ce bit update na 50k za koji dan,a do tad evo zanimljive ruke 200BB deep smile

reg,igra 17/14/6.6 AF 5.3 afq 41% 33% 27%
comments plz smile

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.05
Big Blind: $0.10

BTN ($6.44)
SB ($26.21)
BB (MichBjukenon) ($21.08)
UTG ($17.1)
MP ($10.03)
CO ($13.33)

Dealt to BB (MichBjukenon)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.15)

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.3, CO & BTN fold, SB calls $0.25, BB (MichBjukenon) calls $0.2

Flop: (Pot is $0.9, 3 players)

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SB checks, BB (MichBjukenon) checks, MP bets $0.6, SB calls $0.6, BB (MichBjukenon) raises to $2.5, MP folds, SB raises to $4.4, BB (MichBjukenon) calls $1.9

Turn: (Pot is $10.3, 2 players)

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SB bets $6.2, BB (MichBjukenon) calls $6.2

River: (Pot is $22.7, 2 players)

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SB bets $13.6, BB (MichBjukenon) calls $10.18 (All-In)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $46.48 | Rake: $46.48

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