Tema: Nordica projekt

Igram nl holdem 6max na Poker Nordici vec 6 mjeseci a jos se nisam uspio pomaknuti sa nl4  zato sam odlucio pokrenuti ovaj projekt. 
Jednostavno se stalno mucim na tom nl4  hmm  imao sam nekoliko propalih pokusaja na nl10, posljednji je bio na pocetku ovog mjeseca kada sam dosao do 210 dolara i ponovo probao preci na visi limit.
Taj pokusaj nije bio uspjesan te sam ovaj mj uspio izgubit vise od pola BR.
Ocito je da neke stvari radim pogresno i da se necu uspjeti pomaknuti s ovog limita dok to ne popravim.
Zato sam odlucio otvoriti ovaj topic u kojem cu postati handove koji me muce.
Ovdje cu također izvjestavati o napretku moje poker karijere ako ona ikada uspije zazivjeti na necem visem od nl4  big_smile


Ciljevi projekta:
-prestati raditi nepotrebne poteze na kojima gubim novce
-odigrati sto vise handova
- napraviti bankroll za nl 10
- napredovati na vece limite

Trenutni BR: 82 $

Za kraj moji statsi po pozicijama, pa mi recit radim li ja uopce sta tu ispravno
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Re: Nordica projekt

sretno sa projektom! cekamo handove...
od ovoga sto ja vidim mogu ti reci da si previse tight (kao i ja) VP i PFR moraju biti bar iznad 20 %
flop cbet je prevelik, premalo foldas na 3bet, foldaj vise kad nisi u poziciji
i W$SD mora biti iznad 50 % da bi to bilo dobro...i ajd stavi vise statsa tako da ti vise mogu
pomoci ovi koji znaju puno vise od mene. ako sam nesto krivo neka me netko ispravi

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Flop cbet ti je daleko daleko prevelik. Pogotovo na NL4 gdje sigurno ima jako puno calling stationa. Na tome definitivno moraš poraditi, naučiti teksture koje su pogodne sa cbet a koje nisu.
Igraš dosta tight, to nije greška ako je to tvoj stil igre ali i ti ipak savjetovao da probaš naučiti igrati malo više loose.
Isto mislim da si malo preagresivan za NL4.

Koliko stolova igraš?

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idrga napisao:

si previse tight (kao i ja) VP i PFR moraju biti bar iznad 20 %

Ovo uopce nije istina i to je sada moderno igrat loose ali i dosta tesko a iz iskustva znam igrace koji igraju 19/16 ili slicno a jedni su od najvecih winnera na nl50 i nl100 tako da ne mora igrat preko 20 PFR  i pogotovo na tim manjim limitima.

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dfable napisao:

Flop cbet ti je daleko daleko prevelik. Pogotovo na NL4 gdje sigurno ima jako puno calling stationa. Na tome definitivno moraš poraditi, naučiti teksture koje su pogodne sa cbet a koje nisu.
Igraš dosta tight, to nije greška ako je to tvoj stil igre ali i ti ipak savjetovao da probaš naučiti igrati malo više loose.
Isto mislim da si malo preagresivan za NL4.

Koliko stolova igraš?

igram 6 stolova. Taj flop cbet me stalno muci moram na tom svakako poradit, previse cbetam jer precesto ocekujem da je promasio flop
i onda se desi bas to sto si ti napisao on me calla i kasnije pretvorim svoj hand u blef cesto i na tom gubim novce.

idrga napisao:

sretno sa projektom! cekamo handove...
od ovoga sto ja vidim mogu ti reci da si previse tight (kao i ja) VP i PFR moraju biti bar iznad 20 %
flop cbet je prevelik, premalo foldas na 3bet, foldaj vise kad nisi u poziciji
i W$SD mora biti iznad 50 % da bi to bilo dobro...i ajd stavi vise statsa tako da ti vise mogu
pomoci ovi koji znaju puno vise od mene. ako sam nesto krivo neka me netko ispravi

mozda bi trebao probat igrati malo agresivnije probat cu poraditi i na tome. Da slazem se da nebi trebao igrat handove van pozicije, previse to radim

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http://www.cardrunners.com/poker-videos … 1-nikachu/

Ako se dobro sjećam, ovdje imaš dosta dobro objašnjeno cbetanje određenih tekstura boardova.

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malo da napravim update  big_smile
nisam previse igrao sad preko Bozica i nove godine al sam stigao odigrati par sessiona BR se malo popravio trenutno 122$

dfable napisao:

http://www.cardrunners.com/poker-videos … 1-nikachu/

Ako se dobro sjećam, ovdje imaš dosta dobro objašnjeno cbetanje određenih tekstura boardova.

Hvala na videu pogledao sam ga, jos sm citao neku literaturu sto se tice tog cbetanja i pokusavam to svaki session pomalo popravljat.

stavit cu  i jedan hand u kojem nisam siguran sto napraviti u ovoj situaciji

protivnik ima statse
VP: 34 PFR: 16 FCB:70 AF:2.7 AF_R: 4 na 141 handu

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04

MP ($1.77)
CO ($8.28)
BTN (marko90) ($3.98)
SB ($7.2)
BB ($5.08)
UTG ($4)

Dealt to BTN (marko90)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)

UTG folds, MP calls $0.04, CO folds, BTN (marko90) raises to $0.12, SB & BB fold, MP calls $0.08

Flop: (Pot is $0.3, 2 players)

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MP bets $0.3, BTN (marko90) calls $0.3

Turn: (Pot is $0.9, 2 players)

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MP checks, BTN (marko90) bets $0.48, MP calls $0.48

River: (Pot is $1.86, 2 players)

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MP raises to $0.87 (All-In)

                                                                     
Total Pot: $2.73 | Rake: $2.73

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da stavim par handova pa mozda netko odluci bacit koji komentar smile

1.hand
protivnik je fish
vp:34 PFR:16 AF:3.1 FCB:83 na648 handova

2.hand
protivnik
VP:24  PFR:18 AF:1.1 AF_R:1

3.hand
utg
VP:44 PFR:12 FCB:83  AF:1.4   AF_T:2

4.hand
VP:38 PFR:15 FCB:75 AF:1.6 AF_R:4

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Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04

BB ($7.61)
UTG (marko90) ($4.46)
BTN ($5.24)
SB ($2.94)

Dealt to UTG (marko90)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)

UTG (marko90) raises to $0.12, BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.08

Flop: (Pot is $0.26, 2 players)

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BB bets $0.13, UTG (marko90) raises to $0.34, BB raises to $7.49 (All-In)



                                                                     





Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04

UTG ($4)
CO ($4.86)
BTN ($6.25)
SB (marko90) ($5.33)
BB ($4)

Dealt to SB (marko90)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)

UTG folds, CO raises to $0.12, BTN folds, SB (marko90) raises to $0.38, BB calls $0.32, CO folds

Flop: (Pot is $0.86, 2 players)

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SB (marko90) bets $0.44, BB calls $0.44

Turn: (Pot is $1.74, 2 players)

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SB (marko90) bets $0.8, BB calls $0.8

River: (Pot is $3.34, 2 players)

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SB (marko90) bets $1.55, BB raises to $2.4 (All-In)

                                                                     





Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04

UTG ($3)
MP ($2.99)
CO ($3.67)
BTN (marko90) ($6.5)
SB ($6.05)
BB ($4.2)

Dealt to BTN (marko90)
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Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)

UTG calls $0.04, MP folds, CO raises to $0.13, BTN (marko90) raises to $0.34, SB & BB fold, UTG calls $0.3, CO calls $0.21

Flop: (Pot is $1.08, 3 players)

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UTG checks, CO bets $0.5, BTN (marko90) calls $0.5, UTG calls $0.5

Turn: (Pot is $2.58, 3 players)

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UTG raises to $2.16 (All-In), UTG fold




                                                                     
Total Pot: $4.74 | Rake: $4.74




Holdem Manager, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.02
Big Blind: $0.04

CO ($4)
BTN ($3.66)
SB ($4.02)
BB ($8.02)
UTG ($5.5)
MP (marko90) ($3.94)

Dealt to MP (marko90)
http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AH.png http://hr.pokerpro.cc/forum/extensions/hand_history_converter/HandHistoryConverter/images/AC.png

Preflop: (Pot is: $0.06)

UTG raises to $0.12, MP (marko90) raises to $0.36, CO & BTN & SB fold, BB calls $0.32, UTG calls $0.24

Flop: (Pot is $1.1, 3 players)

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BB checks, UTG checks, MP (marko90) bets $0.52, BB calls $0.52, UTG calls $0.52

Turn: (Pot is $2.66, 3 players)

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BB checks, UTG checks, MP (marko90) bets $1.42, BB calls $1.42, UTG folds

River: (Pot is $5.5, 2 players)

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BB bets $2.75

                                                                     

Zadnji popravljao marko90 (10-01-2012 19:18:07)

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zadnja 4 handa (osim AA) mi sve nekako izgledaju ko da raiseaš napamet.

52s je obv fold preflop,

TT po meni nemoš raiseat bez razloga/cilja, još ste k tome 125bb deep, bit će ti teško igrat postflop a i suzuješ njegov range, velim sve zavisi al pošto si izostavio 3bet/fold to 3bet/4bet statse o kojima to ovisi djeluje ko da ti je standard play

99 opet koji ti je cilj preflop, jel razmišljaš koji će se scenario najčešće desit, postflop vjerojatno imaš 3 outa a i onda si možda mrtav
još ktome preflop repaš premium handove a postflop ni sam neznam kaj radiš

AA ja bi beto flop oko 0.65, turn možeš ić onda preko 2 onda pa nemaš brige na riveru. Al ovo je neki cooler vjerojatno

U 3betanom potu ti je lako odredit bet size da ga podesiš za ok shove river, također probaj malo razmisšljat prije nek nekaj radiš

Zadnji popravljao cgreen (10-01-2012 21:12:36)

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