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Citam tekst koji objasnjava ICM i nikako si ne mogu posloziti jednu stvar, pa bi vas zamolio za pomoc.

Tekst je s ovog linka: http://www.sitandgoplanet.com/sitandgo/ … 20ICM.html, ali zbog lakseg snalazenja, pejstat cu dio koji me muci.

Prvi dio (koji mi je jasan):

Lets create a hypothetical situation where there is a $100 prize pool, 1000 chips to start and we now have 4 players at the bubble with 2500 chips each and the standard 50% for 1st, 30% for 2nd 20% for 3rd payout structure - we will ignore blinds for now to keep the numbers simple.

Prize pool equity is easy to work out here, each player is the same with a $25 stake. Now we see 2 players go all-in and player 1 bust out. Player 2 now has 5000 chips, with 3 and 4 unchanged on 2500 chips.

Our question is, how does the prize pool equity look now?

After all - 1st prize is $50, but with 3 players still in the game it is not realistic to assume player 2 will always take 1st place here! Using a basic ICM calculator we can find out exactly what the equity is for each of the 3 players.

Player 2: 5000 Chips - $38.33c Equity

Player 3: 2500 Chips - $30.83c Equity

Player 4: 2500 Chips - $30.83c Equity

Note that player 2's equity increased from $25 to $38.33c here - an increase of $13.33. However, in order to gain this extra equity this player had to risk the $25 stake he already had, a risk of $25 to gain $13.33. In simple terms this player was laying equity odds of 2-to-1 against himself at the bubble of a SNG tournament. We should also note that the players who were not in the hand have each gained a significant $5.83c in equity!

Here is the key to understanding and using ICM to shape your SNG Bubble Strategy - since your risk will always be bigger than your gain you need to have a huge edge against an opponent to 'correctly' get involved in a big pot. We discuss how to apply ICM logic to your decision making below.

Drugi dio:

Continuing the above example, let us look at a situation where it makes mathematical sense to fold the 'best hand' at the bubble.

You have Ace-Ten, and based on an assessment of the entire range of hands your opponent may have pushed all-in with you assess yourself as 60% favorite against their range. With equal stacks as above you are risking $25 to win $13.33 - is 60% favorite enough here??

Again we can calculate the average win / loss using an ICM Calculator - we recommend SNG WIZ for all of these calculations.

So after 100 hands....

    60 Times you win and have $36 equity 60*36 = $2160
    40 Times you lose and have $0 equity.40*0 = $0

So at the end of 100 tries you have $2160/100 or $21.6 in equity - the play costs you $2.40c each time you make it when compared to folding!!! Let me ask a question - is your ROI above 24%??

Ono sto mi nikako nije jasno je - zasto je u boldanom djelu napisao da imamo 36$ equity kad je prije napisao da ako se poduplamo imamo 38,33$ equity. Kako je dosao do toga da nas svaki taj potez dugorocno kosta 2,40$, tj. da nam foldanje donosi 2,40$? I otkud mu ROI od 24%?

Imalo bi mi logike kad bi racunica bila ovakva

So after 100 hands....

    60 Times you win and have $38,33 equity 60*38,33 = $2299,8
    40 Times you lose and have $0 equity.40*0 = $0

So at the end of 100 tries you have $2299,8/100 or $22.99 in equity - the play costs you $2.01c each time you make it when compared to folding!!! Let me ask a question - is your ROI above???

Moze li netko molim vas objasniti gdje grijesim?

Dakle treba mi 15 dolara kako bi uzeo ICMizer na mjesec dana... Nemam svoj Paypal (preko njega se moze izvrsiti kupnja), pa bi dao 15 dolara na starsima da mi prebacite 15 dolara na prijateljev Paypal..

Ili ako bi netko bio voljan direktno mi uzeti ICMizer sa svog Paypala i poslati mi sifru, a ja njemu saljem na starse.. naravno, saljem prvi povjerljivim clanovima..

eto, naslov sve kaze. zainteresirani nek se jave ovdje ili na pm.

Ostalo nas je jos 14. Zadnjih 30 ruku sam igrao mozda 2 ruke, totalno card dead. Nemam nikakve statse na protivniku.

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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t8000
Big Blind: t16000
Ante: t2000

UTG (t599462)
CO (t2843580)
BTN (t395664)
SB (dongino1303) (t352465)
BB (t509056)

SB (dongino1303) has M value 10.37

Dealt to SB (dongino1303)

Preflop: (Pot is: t34000)

UTG & CO & BTN fold, SB (dongino1303) raises to t32000, BB calls t16000

Flop: (Pot is t74000, 2 players)

SB (dongino1303) bets t48000, BB calls t48000

Turn: (Pot is t170000, 2 players)

River: (Pot is t170000, 2 players)

                                                                     
Total Pot: t170000 | Rake: t170000